Saturday, December 22, 2012

Wayne Moore: Petition for Analysis

The following is now circulating online in the form of a petition.  

Follow the pronouns.  We look for an innocent person to tell us he did not do it:  "I did not firebomb the building..." with the three component reliable denial:

1.  Pronoun "I"

2.  Past tense "did not"
3.  Specific language:  "firebomb the building"

It is often the first thing someone writes, or says, when he did not do it. 

It is something the innocent say early, and often, and may not even wait to be asked, as long as the accusation is known. 


Rule:  If the subject cannot bring himself to say he did not do it; we are not permitted to say it for him. 


In the below, does Wayne Moore tell us that he did not do it?


First, a wikipedia entry about the case.  We seek truth through statements.  Whether the trial was fair or not, is not answered here, this is limited to the petition ascribed to Wayne Moore.  We analyze only this statement, not the case, nor the evidence, nor the allegation of bribing witnesses, nor anyone's motives.  This is strictly limited to analysis of the petition that bears the signature of Wayne Moore. 

1.  Wikipedia
2.  Petition with Analysis 


In the 1960s and 1970s, African-American residents of Wilmington, North Carolina were unhappy with the lack of progress in implementing integration and other civil rights reforms legally achieved by the American Civil Rights Movement. Many struggled with poverty and lack of opportunity. The 1968 assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.increased racial tensions, with a rise in violence, including the arson of several white-owned businesses.
Racial tension increased after the 1969 integration of Wilmington high schools, as the city closed the black Williston High School, a source of community pride. It laid off black teachers, principals, and coaches, transferring students to other schools.[3] There was little preparation of whites or blacks for the changes. The school administration resisted meeting with the students to hear their grievances, including separation from friends and the lack of opportunity to play sports in new schools.[4]Several clashes between white and African-American students had resulted in a number of arrests and expulsions.
In response to tensions, members of a Ku Klux Klan chapter and other white supremacist groups began patrolling the streets. They hung an effigy of the white superintendent of the schools and cut his phone lines. Street violence broke out between them and black men.[3] [2]
Students decided to boycott the high schools in January 1971. In February, the United Church of Christ sent Reverend Benjamin Chavis, Jr., from their Commission for Racial Justice, to Wilmington to try to calm the situation and work with the students. He preached non-violence to them and met with students regularly at Gregory Congregational Church to discuss black history, as well as to organize the boycott.

[edit]Arson at Mike's Grocery and trial

On February 6, 1971, Mike's Grocery, a white-owned business, was firebombed. Firefighters responding to the fire said they were shot at by snipers from the roof of the nearby Gregory Congregational Church. Chavis and several students had been meeting at the church, which also held other people. The neighborhood erupted in rioting that lasted through the next day.
The governor of the state called up the National Guard, whose forces entered the church on February 8 removed the suspects. They claimed to have found ammunition in the building. The violence resulted in two deaths, six injuries, and over $500,000 in property damage.[2]
Chavis and nine others, eight young African American men who were high school students, and an older white woman, an anti-poverty worker, were arrested on charges of arson related to the grocery. Based on testimony of two African-American men, they were tried and convicted of arson and conspiracy in connection with the firebombing of Mike's Grocery.



When I was 19, a prosecutor framed me and nine other civil rights activists for firebombing a building in Wilmington, NC. We were dubbed the Wilmington Ten, convicted by a jury that included multiple KKK members, and sentenced to 29 years in prison.
At nineteen, I had dreams of becoming a lawyer or running for office. But when I was released on parole eight years after my conviction, I was shunned by my community and had trouble finding enough work to get by. Worst of all, after being away for so long, my children no longer trusted me.
I'll never get back what I lost -- nor will the other nine people who were wrongly imprisoned. But we deserve to be officially declared innocent. The governor of North Carolina will issue her last pardons over the next two weeks, before she leaves office. I started a petition on Change.org asking Governor Perdue to reverse the injustice that tore our lives apart and pardon the members of the Wilmington Ten. Will you sign my petition? 
This is a good place to say he did not do it, and not take ownership of his conviction.  "the conviction" is expected more than "my" conviction.  Strongest would be "I did not firebomb the building in North Carolina" and then talk about a wrongful conviction.  This is where it should start, with the reliable denial as the reason for writing.  
The Wilmington Ten were working together in 1971 to integrate public schools in our community. 
Jay Stroud is the District Attorney responsible for our unjust sentencing. He built his case on the testimony of three convicted felons, all of whom retracted their statements just a few years later. A few weeks ago, the notes he took during the trial were released. They show that Stroud bribed witnesses and tried to recruit a jury with as many white racists as possible -- one note next to a jury member read "possibly KKK good."
I have been fighting against my wrongful conviction for decades, before and after I was released. I have struggled tremendously over the years to overcome the paralyzing effects of being imprisoned for crimes I never committed -- but I am determined to clear my name. 
Note that "crimes" is plural
Note that "crimes I never committed" is not a reliable denial.
Governors usually issue pardons during their last week in office, and with North Carolina's governor set to leave at the end of the year, this could be our last chance to get a pardon and send a message to the entire country that this injustice will not be tolerated.
The city of Wilmington has already apologized. It is now time for the state of North Carolina to do the same by granting The Wilmington Ten a full pardon of innocence.Please sign my petition today and urge Governor Perdue to pardon me and the other members of the Wilmington Ten.
Thank you for your help.
Wayne Moore

23 comments:

Trigger said...

Wayne Moore does not take responsibility for anything, and yet he does not say, "I did not firebomb the store."

His letter is all about him and what he has personally suffered because he was "framed."



john said...

Its all..

"We" "Our" Sharing the Guilt.

That is until it comes down to the petition.

"(I)started a petition" Not(We)started a petition

"Sign (MY) Petition"Not Sign (Our)petition.

Didnt he care about anyone else when it came down to signing the petition.
He wants to share the guilt but NOT the petition..

john said...

OT.
Apologies if this has been posted before.
Drew Peterson Pours His Heart Out in Letters Written to Girl Half His Age
“In all my relationships, I treated my partners like gold and spoiled them, which was probably a big mistake on my part,” Peterson wrote in one.

You can lock Drew Peterson up for years, but you can’t stop him from sweet-talking the ladies on the outside.

Peterson, the 58-year-old former Bolingbrook cop, accused killer and serial marrier charged with murdering one wife and suspected by the Illinois State Police of having a hand in another's disappearance, sent love letters from jail to a 26-year-old DuPage County woman throughout the spring of 2010.

“Hello my love,” Peterson wrote to the young woman in one of the letters recently given to Patch. “I really miss you and keep dreaming about holding you …

“You still got my heart and I hope you still (have) mine.”

The lovestruck Peterson’s letters, all written in pencil on lined notebook paper, depict visions of romance, freedom from the bars that prevent him from dreaming, and a relationship in which he would spoil the object of his affections.

But it’s not clear if Peterson, locked up in the Will County Jail for the last three years pending trial, ever actually met the woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with.

When contacted, the woman denied the letters were sent to her, but then demanded no story be written about them.

She said a story about the letters would be “detrimental to character.”

Peterson, whose trial on charges he murdered his third wife, Kathleen Savio, starts Tuesday, July 31, predicted in one letter that he would be released from jail.

“You’ll see when I get out that I am a lot of fun,” he wrote. “You’ll always be laughing.”

He also told his young love what a great guy he was to his past romantic “partners.”

“In all my relationships I treated my partners like gold and spoiled them, which was probably a big mistake on my part,” Peterson lamented. “I was good to them and their families and ended up being taken advantage of. It’s sad all the people I have helped in my life have now turned their backs on me. Good—when I get out they won’t have me to use anymore.”

And even though Peterson was charged with killing one of his wives and was named a suspect in the disappearance of another by the State Police, he let his latest love know she didn’t have to worry about him doing anything to hurt her.

“I’ll never hurt you but don’t hurt me either,” Peterson said. “You already broke my heart once. But I do understand.”

john said...

Contd.
The four-times married and thrice-divorced Peterson went on to write of how all his loves have disappointed him.

“I have always spoiled all my partners and was let down by all of them.”

He also writes: “I need to be the most important thing in my partner’s life and my partner needs to be the most important thing in my life. No matter what. Please tell me what you want from me. I still love you but I’m gonna be cautious. I don’t want to jump in with both feet and get hurt again.”

Just in case the young woman was being a little too cautious, maybe because she heard or read or saw stuff about what Peterson allegedly did to get himself locked up—drowning one ex-wife, not to mention the mystery surrounding the one who disappeared—he didn’t hesitate to set her straight.

“Let me try to clear some things up for you,” he wrote. “The book Fatal Vows was a crock of s--- written by a guy trying to sensationalize my situation and make a quick buck.”

And with all that cleared up, Peterson let his young love know what she must do to make him hers.

“So if you want me, be good to me,” he wrote. "Make me happy. Just love me and be faithful to me and I’ll give you the same and live to make yours happy. Be my best friend. Love me unconditionally.”

And it’s not all take and no give with Peterson. In fact, he had some tips for the woman as she pursued a career as a police officer.

“As for being a cop, you don’t have to disclose your relationship with me,” he told her. “And if you get hired, don’t say anything until you’re off probation to anyone.”

Predictions for the length of Peterson’s murder trial have ranged from as brief as a week to as long as five. At the end of that time, the accused wife-killer will find out if he will realize his dream of the recipient of his letters being “all in love and planning a lifetime with (him) in Michigan.”

“I do love you and am hoping for a future with us. Hang on to that sweetie. Take care of yourself for me. I’m really trying to get to you,” Peterson swooned.

“Give us something to hang onto and dream about,” he pleaded. “I want to build a new life for me and the kids. Please be in it.

“I haven’t dreamed since I have been in here,” Peterson wrote. “I now know why some animals die in captivity. It kills your spirit and will to live if you let it.

“Again I love you. Don’t break my heart again.”

john said...

Ooops heres the link.

http://bolingbrook.patch.com/articles/drew-peterson-love-letters-jail-trial

john said...

OT>

Father jailed for injuring his baby protests innocence in letter to Leicester Mercury
Monday, September 27, 2010
A father who was jailed for inflicting devastating injuries on his seven-week-old daughter is protesting his innocence from his prison cell.

In a letter to the Leicester Mercury, Zak Whitlock continues to deny he is a "violent monster" and questions the validity of the medical evidence which helped convict him.

​Zak Whitlock

Instead, he maintains the youngster, now 20 months and permanently brain damaged, suffered the injuries in an accidental fall.

Whitlock was jailed in May after a jury at Leicester Crown Court decided he had deliberately fractured the baby's skull and broken one of her ribs, and found him guilty of grievous bodily harm with intent.

In a three-page letter to the Mercury, Whitlock criticised media coverage of the case, including the Leicester Mercury's reports.

Writing from HMP Albany, on the Isle of Wight, which houses sex offenders and other "vulnerable" prisoners, Whitlock said: "I am innocent and I will not stop claiming my innocence until it is proven.

"And, as for you the media, making me out to be some kind of violent monster that in your words beat my child makes me sick and annoyed.

"I was there when the accident happened and witnessed it with my own eyes.

"My daughter did accidentally fall from my arms, it was not planned or intentional. It was an accident which I am fully sorry for but it wasn't my fault.

"Accidents happen all the time around the world and unfortunately one happened to me.

"And now because of this I am suffering. Is that what justice has become? I am a loving, caring dad to three beautiful girls and I am very proud of them.

"I would not under any circumstances hurt any of my children.

"All I have ever done is support, love and care for my children and for someone to tell the world that does not know me from Adam that I am a child abuser is heart-breaking.

"On the day of my birthday when the accident happened I did everything to help my daughter when she became ill.

"I was calm and very focused that my daughter was getting the medical treatment.

"So does that mean I am a bad father for keeping calm and focused on my daughter's medical treatment?

"There have been numerous times when medical evidence has been incorrect. So how can you be so sure the evidence they gave was correct?"

Whitlock did not refer to any intention to launch an official appeal against his conviction.

His legal representatives said they were unaware of the letter and could not speak to the Leicester Mercury about the case because he had not instructed them to.

Experts at Whitlock's trial testified the force of the impact, against a wall or floor, inflicted on the child was the equivalent of a strike with a cricket bat and could not have been caused by a simple fall.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/m-innocent/story-12065835-detail/story.html

Nanna Frances said...

He did not say he did not do it. We cannot say it for him.

It is interesting that he refers to his children not trusting after he was gone for so long. At 19 he had children.

The governor should not grant his pardon.

Hobnob said...

If he can't say he didn't do it in a reliable first person singular, event specific past tense then we can't either.

WE were framed

Sign MY petition.

Every man for himself it seems

Vita said...

The Petition itself, Wayne's written (?). He names himself author, the prolog is signed with his name.
Link: http://www.change.org/petitions/nc-governor-bev-perdue-ncgovoffice-pardon-the-wilmington-ten


To: The Governor of NC
NC Governor Bev Perdue
I just signed the following petition addressed to: NC Governor Beverly Perdue...
Pardon the Wilmington Ten
-------
In 1972, ten young activists - nine black males and one white female - were falsely convicted of conspiracy and the firebombing of a white-owned grocery store in Wilmington, NC. during the height of racial tensions, which erupted there following protests of racial discrimination during the desegregation of the local school system.

As a result of these convictions, the Ten were collectively sentenced to 282 years in prison, and, individually, served between four and six years in prison. These convictions and sentencing sparked national protests and gained international attention and condemnation. In 1977, the three State’s witnesses, who testified against the Ten, recanted their testimonies in court. The CBS News’ program “60 Minutes” then exposed the State’s evidence as “fabricated” by prosecutors, and in 1980, the US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned the convictions based upon that Court’s independent determinations that the Prosecutor and the Trial Judge allowed the introduction of perjured testimony and with-held critical evidence which defense attorneys were entitled to receive.

The frame-up was exposed, but the State of North Carolina has never declared the Ten innocent, nor have the fabricated charges been dismissed against them. Though freed and cleared, they’ve had to live out their lives under an unjust cloud.

The undersigned individuals hereby demand that North Carolina Governor Beverly Perdue now, forty years later, officially grant pardons of actual innocence to each of, as of August 3, 2012, the six surviving members and four deceased members, of the Wilmington Ten.

Justice has been denied for too long.
-------

Sincerely,

Sincerely,
[Your name]

Hobnob said...

off topic


The people have been charged with deliberating setting off a deadly gas explosion that decimated an Indianapolis neighborhood in the hopes of collecting an insurance settlement.
The house's owner, Monserrate Shirley; her boyfriend, Mark Leonard; and his brother, Bob Leonard, were arrested Friday and charged with murder, arson, and several other counts for their role in the Nov. 10 blast that killed two people.

Authorities said Shirley, 47, was motivated by mounting financial worries including $63,000 in credit card debt and bankruptcy proceedings. Mark Leonard had allegedly just 'lost a ton of money' - roughly $10,000 - at a casino just three weeks before the explosion.

Investigators determined that Shirley's home - at the epicenter of the devastating blast that killed her neighbors, John Dion Longworth, 34, and his 36-year-old wife Jennifer Longworth - filled up with gas after a gas fireplace valve and a gas line regulator were removed.
A microwave, probably set to start on a timer, sparked the explosion and flattened much of the Richmond Hills subdivision in the far south of the city, he said.
Marion County prosecutor Terry Curry called it a 'thoroughly senseless act.' He said his office would review whether to pursue the death penalty or life in prison without parole against the three.
Randall Cable, the attorney for Shirley and Mark Leonard, said he was stunned by their arrest.
'I'm just as surprised as everyone else that they've made an arrest. My clients have consistently indicated their innocence,' he said.
Investigators found that Shirley and Mark Leonard had tried but failed to blow up the home a week earlier, and that Leonard had told an acquaintance the house and Shirley's jewelry were insured for $300,000.

A man fitting Bob Leonard's description was seen at Shirley's home on the day of the explosion, and investigators believe this is when the gas line and valve were tampered with.
Cable has said the couple was at a southern Indiana casino when the explosion happened. Shirley's daughter was staying with a friend, and the family's cat was being boarded.
Bob and Mark Leonard told investigators they had last seen each other four days before the explosion, but investigators found surveillance video from two businesses showing them together on the two days before the blast.

The day before the blast, the brothers allegedly spoke with an employee of local gas utility Citizens Energy and asked various questions about gas, including the differences between propane and natural gas, the role of a regulator in a house and controlling the flow of natural gas and how much gas it would require to fill a house.
On the day after the explosion, Bob Leonard allegedly called his son and asked him to retrieve a bag and six or seven boxes from a white van outside his mobile home that he said were filled with items he had salvaged from Shirley's home after the blast.
'That, of course, is impossible because everything in the house was destroyed. Plus no one was allowed access to the property after the explosion,' Curry said.
The late-night blast, which was heard from miles away, destroyed five houses including the Longworths' home, damaged about 90 more and sent residents fleeing, some in their pajamas.
Officials ordered the demolition of about three dozen of the mostly heavily damaged homes and say the blast caused an estimated $4.4 million in damage.
Shirley has said Leonard had replaced the thermostat and that the furnace was working. Cable has said the daughter told her mother she had smelled an odd odor in recent weeks, but that they hadn't reported it.
The blast killed 34-year-old John Dion Longworth and 36-year-old Jennifer Longworth, who lived next door to the home which believed to have been was pumped with gas.

Hobnob said...

According to experts, the spark that set of the explosions could have been activated from the outside using a remote control commonly used to turn on an electrical device such as a TV or air conditioner.
Jay Siegel, a forensic and investigative consultant, told The Star that the detonation would have occurred when the concentration of gas inside the home reached 10 per cent.

Those revelations came amid a flurry of rumors regarding arrests being made and suspects being taken in for questioning in the case that have since been disproved by top police officials.
Indianapolis police Captain Craig Converse said that investigators are currently busy interviewing people and following tips. Another law enforcement official said that two people were interviewed Tuesday, but neither was arrested or charged.
Police also said they served a warrant to obtain property, and another warrant to obtain fingerprints, but declined to identify the recipients of the two documents.
Investigators had taken into possession and inspected a white van that was allegedly spotted in the neighborhood on the afternoon of the explosion, but declined to reveal the identity of the vehicle’s owner or its connection to the case.

On Monday, authorities launched a homicide investigation into the case. Indianapolis Homeland Security Director Gary Coons made the announcement after meeting with residents of the subdivision where the November 10 blast occurred and just hours after funerals were held for the two victims.
'We are turning this into a criminal homicide investigation,' Coons said, though he didn't indicate whether police had any suspects.
Officials have said they believe natural gas was involved in the explosion, which leveled two homes and left dozens more uninhabitable.

Investigators have been focusing on appliances as they search for a cause.

Funerals were held earlier Monday for the couple killed in the explosion, 34-year-old John Dion Longworth and 36-year-old Jennifer Longworth.
The Longworths were asleep in the home next to the epicenter of the explosion, which belongs to a woman named Monserrate Shirley

Ms Shirley and her boyfriend Mark Leonard weer out of town at the time of the blast. The Indiana Star reports that Ms Shirley's daughter was staying with friends and the family's cat was at a kennel, meaning that no one in the family was injured.

She told the paper that she does not know why the explosion happened because her furnace was working properly even though her ex-husband asserted otherwise.
Her current boyfriend, Mr Leonard, has an extensive criminal record which includes arrests for several felonies like intimidation, stalking, dealing marijuana and possession of a narcotic.

The couple was out of town visiting a casino at the time of the blast.

Attorney Randy Cable, who represents Shirley and Leonard, said in a statement that his clients 'remain horrified at the tragic events, destruction and loss of lives that occurred and have been cooperating with the authorities since their return to Indianapolis over the weekend.'
The statement goes on to say that the couple have 'cooperated fully' with the investigation and have answered 'each and every question, including speculation as to whether they may have been targeted by anyone.'

She said firefighters later put out the flames and searchers then went through the rubble and damaged homes one at a time in case others were left behind. At least one body has been recovered.
The latest estimates for the cost of the damage total $4.4million.

Some witnesses said in televised reports that they heard people screaming 'help me! help me!' after the explosion and fire and that two parents and two children were safely pulled from one house that caught fire.

Hobnob said...

'This looks like a war zone; it really does,' Hensley told The Associated Press.
'Police officers and fire department officials remain at the scene searching for other possible victims.' She said they used search lights until dawn as they peered into the damaged and ruined homes.
The explosion at 11pm Saturday destroyed two houses that were side by side and spread fire to two other nearby homes in the neighborhood on the south side of Indianapolis, she said, adding at least 14 other homes were damaged in the area by the blast's shock wave or flying debris it kicked up.
U.S. Rep. Andre Carson said he had received that report from Homeland Security officials during a tour of the devastated middle-class subdivision.
The roaring explosion ripped through 31 homes, claimed two victims and forced about 200 people to evacuate a devastated Indianapolis neighborhood on Sunday.
Two living victims were taken to a hospital with minor injuries after the explosion and fire, said Lieut. Bonnie Hensley, with the Indianapolis Fire Department


Aerial photographs of the once-tidy neighborhood of one- and two-story homes showed at least two had been reduced to blackened pits of debris. Other homes had sections gutted by fire or holes in their roofs or exterior walls.

Siding dangled from the outside of other homes, and crumpled garage doors hung from houses nearby. Pieces of wood and other building materials littered the street and surrounding properties.

he blast was heard for miles all around, and authorities said they had no immediate information on the cause. An investigation by fire and other agencies was under way. Reports said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also was involved.

Many people were asleep at the time and had to be evacuated in pajamas, scooping up their pets as they left hastily, authorities said. They left what some described as a chaotic scene of tall flames rising on the Indianapolis skyline.

Survivors reported shattered windows, caved-in walls and garage doors knocked off their hinges. And of the two homes that were leveled by the blast, Hensley said: 'There's nothing left.'

Complicating the pre-dawn search of the neighborhood, authorities did not know definitively how many people were in the neighborhood when the blast occurred.

'People scattered when all this happened, so we're not really sure how many people we're looking for,' Hensley said.

Bryan and Trina McClellan were at home with their 23-year-old son Eric when the shock wave from the blast a block away shuddered through their home. It knocked the windows out along one side of their home and their first instinct was to check on their two toddler grandchildren in the basement.
One was holding his ears and saying "Loud noise, loud noise."

Hobnob said...

Eric McClellan said he ran afterward to the scene of the explosion and saw homes leveled or nearly so.

'Somebody was trapped inside one of the houses and the firefighters were trying to get to him. I don't know if he survived,' he said, adding firefighters were trying to save a man.

He said he didn't know the man's fate as firefighters ordered him to leave.

All power, gas and other utilities were shut off as a precaution as emergency officials swarmed the site

Approximately 200 people were taken to an elementary school where only about 15 to 25 remained through the night, sleeping on cots. Most of the evacuees subsequently left to stay with relatives, friends or at hotels.

The powerful blast caught sleeping people unaware.

Pam Brainerd, a 59-year-old hospice nurse, said she was asleep on her couch when the tremendous explosion rocked the neighborhood, blowing out the upstairs windows in her house.

'I was sleeping on the sofa and all of a sudden, my upstairs windows were blowing out and my front door was falling in,' Brainerd told AP. 'My front door came off the frame. It was the largest bang I've ever heard.'

Right after the explosion she stepped outside to see what she described tall flames one street away.

'There was a house engulfed in flames and I could see it spreading to other houses,' she added

At the elementary school, authorities sought to impose order and calm on an initial scene of confusion.

Some evacuees milled about the elementary school in pajamas and coats they grabbed as they left their homes.

Some had their dogs on leashes and one lady had evacuated her home with a cat. Beyond the school's parking lot, smoke was still visible, rising in the distance before dawn. The smoke was illuminated by bright lights of emergency responders.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252115/Three-charged-murder-setting-deadly-Indiana-house-explosion-killed-young-couple-destroyed-homes-they.html

Anonymous said...

He said "They threw an accusation"NOT "I was accused"!!!! Plus he split verbs in singular!!!

won't tell you this time said...

This deluded person thinks the political climate has changed for the entire world.

OT:
Drudge Report saying the creep currently ruining the country gave deceased Senator Inouye's eulogy, problem was he kept talking about himself instead of Inouye.
Narcissist.

Hobnob said...

When I was 19, a prosecutor framed me and nine other civil rights activists for firebombing a building in Wilmington, NC.
He claims he was framed by a prosecutor yet doesn't give us a proper introduction.
He then later blames a named DA for the unjust sentencing.
Are these 2 different individuals or the same one?
Why is he angry at the unjust sentencing (specifically) and not the prosection of the crime?
To be framed indicates there must have been evidence provided that incrimated the accused..
He therefore tells us there is evidence showing guilt yet denies his guilt.

Jay Stroud is the District Attorney responsible for our unjust sentencing.

Unjust SENTECING not unjust PROSECUTION?
His gripe then is not about being wrongly prosecuted and jailed, his complaint as written is about the sentence he received.

He built his case on the testimony of three convicted felons, all of whom retracted their statements just a few years later.
Three is the liar's number (Mark McClish)

At nineteen, I had dreams of becoming a lawyer or running for office. But when I was released on parole eight years after my conviction
But negates the previous sentence (the dreams of becoming a lawyer or running for office) I wonder how he did in school and what grades he got.
Would they be enough to get him the qualification he wanted.
He takes ownership of the conviction with the word MY
If he was innocent as claimed he would not take ownership of said conviction.

." I have been fighting against my wrongful conviction for decades, before and after I was released. I have struggled tremendously over the years to overcome the paralyzing effects of being imprisoned for crimes I never committed -- but I am determined to clear my name.
Have the rest not been fighting their wrongful convictions?
Are they guilty of the crime and he is not?.
Crimes is plural.
But negates the previous sentence, in this case, crimes i never committed, indicating their are crimes he has committed.
At no point does he say I did not firebomb Mike's Grocery
If he can't say it, we can't say it for him.

This should be the first thing he says in his letter and then he should then go on to explain why he did not do it.

He also speaks only for himself and none of the others.
If he was wrongly convicted as were they he should be writing on behalf of them all, they either all did it or none or them did.

I wonder if they took polygraphs? If so what were the results?
If not why not?
Would he be prepared to take a polygraph today?

Would it be possible to get him on the show where we can ask appropriate questions and discern the truth and the deception?

Anonymous said...

Could he be saying "my conviction " because it is personal to him considering he served it ?

Hobnob said...

Anonymous said...
Could he be saying "my conviction" because it is personal to him considering he served it ?


It is possible, however, we don't interpret what we think he meant only the words he actually uses.

He takes ownership of his conviction,if he was wrongly convicted he would not take ownership of the conviction, it would be the conviction or that conviction (this is close that is distancing)

He served a sentence not a conviction.

john said...

Hobs,

While learning SA i have to check myself most times NOT to interpret,i find that is one of the most difficult things to grasp given that most people have a propensity to interpret what others say.

~Damn you SA~

Hobnob said...

john said...
Hobs,

While learning SA i have to check myself most times NOT to interpret,i find that is one of the most difficult things to grasp given that most people have a propensity to interpret what others say.

~Damn you SA


I agree.
Some find it easier than others to distance themselves from the emotion of what is being said.
We want to believe what we are being told and as a precept in SA we have to assume the subject is speaking the truth, however unpalatable it is.

When we interpret what we think the subject meant we are using our own life experiences and knowledge and placing ourselves in their place.
When we do that we are not analysing the subject we are, rather, analysing ourselves.

It is hard to take a step back from the situation, to not buy into the drama, emotion and hype.

It is easier for many to read the written word rather than listen to the statement, it allows them to ignore the physical side of the statement allowing them to concentrate on the words spoken.

I know i find myself often closing my eyes when listening to someone making a statement.
It allows me to focus only to what is being said, i can always look at the body language side of things later once i have worked out what has been said as well as what has NOT been said.
I see it as a path or a maze, the truth is in the centre.
There are side paths and dead ends, i know where i should be going and when the path leads me away from the expected i take note.

When a person is deceptive they have a reason to be deceptive and i find it fun to wander down the paths of decption to see where they lead, often they lead to a little nugget of truth which has been used as the basis for the lie.
Sometimes it is obvious other times it is hidden, the lie by ommission so to speak.

By following the paths i find i learn more about the subject than they know they have revealed, their thinking, what makes them tick.

Once i have analysed a statement i like to watch the interview if it available to see their body language as they come to the areas i have flagged and then see if they match.

Perhaps this is why i love people watching and striking up conversations with strangers, or they strike up conversations with me (they always end up telling me their life story)

I am a nosey lil Hobnob

john said...

Hobs said,

Once i have analysed a statement i like to watch the interview if it available to see their body language as they come to the areas i have flagged and then see if they match.

That is a cracking tip Hobs.

Cheers..

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