Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Dr. Conrad Murray Speaks Out

Conrad Murray’s voice softens when he recalls the moment Michael Jackson reached out, clasped his hand and said in his soft falsetto voice: ‘There are only four people in my family now. Paris, Prince, Blanket and you, Dr Conrad.’

It was, the 60-year-old doctor recalls: ‘one of the happiest days of my life. This man who had been so lonely, who had spent so many  long nights telling me about his pain and anguish, finally felt he could trust someone in his life apart from his children.
‘We were family. We loved each other as brothers.’
Unrepentant: Dr Conrad Murray speaks during his first interview after serving half of his four-and-a-half-year jailterm after being convicted of killing Michael Jackson
Unrepentant: Dr Conrad Murray speaks during his first interview after serving half of his four-and-a-half-year jailterm following his conviction of killing Michael Jackson
The remarkable exchange took place in Jackson’s private suite of five rooms on the second floor of his rented £60,000-a-month Beverly Hills mansion. It was an area closed to all except the singer’s three children and Dr Murray – his personal physician and private confidante.

    Murray says: ‘Michael trusted no one. The bed chamber smelled because he did not even let maids in there to clean. There were clothes strewn everywhere.
    ‘Then he looked at me and said, “You know, for the rest of your life and my life our names will become inseparable.
    ‘I asked him, “Michael, what do you mean?” and he smiled and said, “I am clairvoyant.” ’
    King of Pop: Michael Jackson, pictured in March 2009, died in June the same year of acute propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication following a cardiac arrest in his home Neverland
    King of Pop: Michael Jackson, pictured in March 2009, died in June the same year of acute propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication following a cardiac arrest in his home Neverland
    Maybe he was. This brief but intense relationship has all but destroyed Murray’s life and almost certainly defines it.

    The heart surgeon, released from prison three weeks ago after serving half of a four-year sentence for killing pop superstar Jackson with an overdose of intravenous sedative, maintains he was not responsible for Jackson’s tragic death.

    And, in his first-ever interview, he remains unrepentant. ‘I never gave Michael anything that would kill him,’ he says tersely. ‘I loved him. I still do. I always will.’

    At a bulky 6ft 5in, Murray is a bear of a man, though he claims to have lost more than two stone in prison and says he feels ‘every one of my 60 years’. Despite his public disgrace, he has huge charm and the self-assured authority – some might say bombast – of a physician whose lucrative private practice turned over more than £2.3 million a year.

    Jackson’s prediction to the doctor was, indeed, prophetic.

    Two weeks after their moving conversation, Murray stood over the singer’s skeletal body as his friend lay dead on a metal trolley in a hospital emergency room. 

    And in what he now calls the ‘utter nightmare’ that followed the King of Pop’s death, Murray was charged with giving the lethal injection of the anaesthetic propofol that caused Jackson’s heart to stop, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, stripped of his medical licence and sentenced to four years in jail.

    In a vivid and compelling exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, Murray opens what he calls the ‘floodgates of pain’ as he talks for the first time about his intimate friendship with Jackson: ‘You want to know how close we were? I held his penis every night to fit a catheter because he was incontinent at night.’ 

    HOW I TOLD THE CHILDREN THAT THEIR FATHER WAS DEAD

    ‘I found out the kids were at the hospital, they were in a room having pizza.
    ‘I called for a team of psychiatrists. We spoke briefly about whether, if the children wanted it, it would be OK for them to see their father? I walked into the room. Paris looked at me and said, “Daddy’s dead?” I said, “Yes.”
    ‘The children wailed. Paris cried, “I don’t want to be an orphan! I don’t want to be an orphan!” Mrs Jackson was there, La Toya was there, Jermaine was there, but I thought they acted cold.
    ‘I was so worried about those children, they had no relationship with their mother. I didn’t know what to do. But Paris is a remarkable child. I have never seen such mettle in a child that age.
    ‘On the day he died, she sought me out in the corridor. I felt as if Michael was talking through her. She said, “My daddy died today. I know you did everything you could. If he didn’t survive I know it’s not because you didn’t do everything you could.”
    ‘It breaks my heart that those children are now without the one person who loved them more than anything.
    ‘I loved those children. I would love to sit down with them and tell them how much I cared for their father but I worry that their minds have been poisoned against me.’
    For more than five hours, in a voice still thick with the lilting  tones of his native Trinidad, in a faceless hotel room in southern California he tells about Michael’s perilous physical, mental and financial state and the singer’s secret addiction to prescription drugs.
    And he describes in shocking detail the full horror of Jackson’s physical and mental descent ‘into the abyss’ as he fought to cope with the pressure of preparing for his This Is It comeback concerts at  London’s O2 arena: ‘By the end, Michael Jackson was a broken man.
    'I tried to protect him but instead I was brought down with him.’ Most poignantly, he talks about the tragic events of June 25, 2009, the last day of Michael’s Jackson’s life.
    It is clearly a subject he still finds distressing. Murray’s eyes fill with tears. ‘This is so painful,’ he says stifling a sob.

    ‘It’s difficult when you ask me about Michael. There’s a void in my heart, a lingering pain. I miss him every day.’

    Murray says that when he first began working with Jackson in 2006, he had no idea that the superstar used propofol to help him sleep.
    But when he arrived in LA three years later to help him prepare for his comeback, he discovered that Michael had a personal stash of it.

    He told me there were doctors in Germany that gave it to him. I didn’t agree with this at all, but Michael wasn’t the kind of man you can say no to. He would always find a way.
    ‘So I acquired propofol and gave it to him over a two-and-a-half month period as I weaned him off it, which I finally achieved three days before he died.
    ‘He begged me for the drug because he wanted to sleep, because then he didn’t have to think. He was in crisis at the end of his life, filled with panic and misery.
    ‘I would sit with him when he  was on a propofol drip. It’s a very fast-acting drug that disappears  from the body quickly. Fifteen minutes after the drug is administered, it’s gone. I gave him very light,  light sedation.’

    Surely, I ask, as a doctor who has sworn the Hippocratic Oath he had a duty of care to cause no harm to his patient? Surely, giving an addict the drug he craves broke every basic rule of care?

    Murray’s demeanour changes. His body tenses and he glares at me:  ‘I would never have recommended propofol to Michael. 
    'But when I  got there he was on it – he called it “milk” – and he needed to get off it. I wanted to help my friend.
    ‘Michael was not addicted to propofol but I’ve since discovered he was addicted to other drugs, given to him by other doctors and which I was not aware of.’

    Jackson, he insists, ‘was in a  terrible state’. His 5ft 11in frame had wasted away to little over nine stone, he was suffering from chills, insomnia and mood swings.

    He would turn up to rehearsals late and complained to Murray his performance was ‘never more than 60 per cent’.

    ‘Michael was a decrepit man. He was frail. I had to force him to eat, to drink fluids. He always ate the same meal: rice and chicken.
    ‘He was under enormous pressure. The children told him they were tired of living in hotels and rented places, but Michael was broke.
    Intimate talks: Dr Conrad Murray met exclusively with The Mail On Sunday following his release from prison
    Intimate talks: Dr Conrad Murray met exclusively with The Mail On Sunday following his release from prison
    'I am innocent': Dr Conrad Murray, seen arriving to his trial in 2011, claims he had nothing to do with Michael Jackson's death, despite being convicted
    'I am innocent': Dr Conrad Murray, seen arriving to his trial in 2011, claims he had nothing to do with Michael Jackson's death, despite being convicted
    He told me his only major asset, his ownership of the Beatles back catalogue of songs, had been “mortgaged up to the hilt”. 
    'He wanted to do the London shows and then buy a family home, probably in Vegas. But night after night he would tell me he didn’t feel he had the capacity to do it. He said, “They are working me like a machine”.
    Murray claims executives from the London concert promoters AEG threatened his friend – a charge AEG denied in court.
    ‘They came to the house. They said, “This house – we pay for it.  The popsicles the children are sucking on – we pay for them. 
    "The nine security guards, we pay for them too. We pay for the toilet paper he wipes his a** on. 
    "If he doesn’t do these shows it’s over. He’s ruined. He doesn’t have a cent. He will be on Skid Row.” ’
    On the day he died, the singer returned home from rehearsals at around 1am. 
    Murray says: ‘He was hysterical. He was begging me, “Please Dr Conrad, I need some milk so I can sleep.”
    ‘This went on for hours. I believe his insomnia that night was caused by withdrawal from demerol.’

    MICHAEL'S DEATH WISH

    ‘We talked about death and dying. Michael told me he wanted to be cremated and scattered somewhere nice and warm, and we talked about the coral reef off the Turks and Caicos Islands. 
    ‘He hated California because of the two child sex cases against him. His family ended up putting him in Forest Lawn Cemetery  in Los Angeles.’
    Murray has filed an appeal against his conviction claiming, among other things, that another doctor had been giving Jackson vast amounts of demerol – an analgesic better known in this country as pethidine – without his knowledge.
    His contention – made public now for the first time – is that Jackson was withdrawing from demerol on the night he died and that, when Murray was out of the room, the singer got up and injected himself with a lethal dose of propofol after Murray refused to give him the amount he had asked for.
    He  explains: ‘I had no idea Michael was getting demerol, which he had grown to love over several decades.
    ‘I’ve used demerol in the emergency room. The maximum is 75mg that I would use. Michael was receiving as much as 300mg several times a week.
    ‘That night he just couldn’t sleep. I prescribed him drugs to help, including valium and lorazepam, but he was begging, pleading, close to tears. “I want sleep, please Dr Conrad, I need sleep.”
    ‘I told him, “This is not normal. What I’ve given you would put an elephant to sleep”.
    ‘In the other bedroom [Michael’s private chamber], the police found an open bottle of lorazepam [an anti-anxiety drug]. They found tablets in his stomach. I didn’t give him those. Michael took extra tablets. And he injected himself.’
    Murray vehemently denies the claim by the prosecution in court that he placed Jackson on a propofol drip and left the room.
    Instead, he says he ‘reluctantly’ gave the star a 25mg propofol injection, a ‘minuscule’ amount that would wear off in ten minutes, and sat by Jackson’s bedside for more than half an hour as the singer finally drifted off to sleep.
    ‘I received a phone call at 11.07am, and when I left Michael at 11.20am, he had a normal heartbeat, his vital signs were good.
    ‘I left the room because I didn’t want to disturb him.
    ‘I believe he woke up, got hold  of his own stash of propofol and injected himself. He did it too quickly and went into cardiac arrest.
    Real mother: Michael Jackson said several times that he felt closer to Elizabeth Taylor than his own mother Katherine
    Real mother: Michael Jackson said several times that he felt closer to Elizabeth Taylor than mum Katherine
    Tragedy: Picture shown in court of Jackson¿s body in hospital during Dr Murray's trial
    Tragedy: Picture shown in court of Jackson¿s body in hospital during Dr Murray's trial
    ‘When I came back in the room I knew instantly he wasn’t breathing. I didn’t panic. I felt and tried to  get a pulse. I tried the groin and the carotid artery. There was no pulse. I immediately started CPR. I’ve resuscitated thousands of people. This was my friend but I went into medical mode.’
    In court, Murray was slammed by medical experts for not calling the emergency number 911 immediately, and for performing CPR on Jackson while he lay on the bed instead of moving him to the floor.  ‘I am a trained cardiac specialist, this is what I do,’ Murray insisted. ‘The bed was hard and Michael was slim. I have big hands. I placed a hand behind him and immediately started chest compressions.
    ‘The chances were not hopeless. I could only have hope. I wanted my friend to make it.
    When Jackson’s head of security failed to answer his phone, Murray ran downstairs to scream for help. A bodyguard raced into the room.
    ‘When paramedics came and they moved him to the foot of the bed they did precisely what I was trying to avoid. He had a saline intravenous in his leg and this was dislodged. It took them 25 minutes to put in a new one. He got a tube down his trachea. Someone kept pumping his chest.’
    Even after an emergency crew arrived, Dr Murray refused to give up on his friend, riding in the ambulance with him to nearby UCLA Medical Center.
    ‘I worked on him the whole way.  I wanted a sign of life. I couldn’t give up. I save people. I’m a heart doctor. It’s what I do. I wanted Michael back.

    'HE JOKED ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH DEBBIE ROWE'

    Dr Murray claims that he and Michael spoke about the parentage of the children, and even suggests that they have three different fathers.
    ‘None of them are Michael’s biological children,’ he says. ‘Michael told me he never slept with Debbie Rowe [the biological mother of Prince and Paris]. We joked that neither of us would want to have sex with her.
    ‘He chose friends or business colleagues to help him. He told me he wanted to sever any genetic link to his family.’
    What about Oliver actor Mark Lester’s claims that he is the father of at least one of the children?
    Murray says: ‘I will not talk about this. If the children want to know,  I will tell them.
    ‘There are some secrets I will take to my grave.’
    ‘At the hospital, he had electrical activity. The heart was getting stimulation but the heart was not strong enough to get a pulse. He hadn’t  flatlined. 
    'There was mild cardiac activity demonstrated on two echo-cardiograms. It was weakly contracting but not generating a pulse that was enough to generate life.
    ‘I was in the emergency room, watching. They tried for an hour before they called it.’
    Jackson was pronounced dead  at 2.26pm.
    ‘He was 50 years old. It was just horrible. He was so young.’ Murray buries his head in his hands. ‘It was so terrible.’ Tears begin rolling down his cheeks. ‘It was so sad.’
    Murray says he then had the task of telling Jackson’s children that their father had died – after taking the advice of hospital psychiatrists.
    ‘I walked into the room. Paris looked at me and said, “Daddy’s dead?” I said, “Yes”.  
    ‘The children wailed. Paris cried, “I don’t want to be an orphan! I don’t want to be an orphan!”
    ‘Mrs Jackson was there, La Toya was there, Jermaine was there.’
    The unlikely pairing of Jackson, the child pop star from Gary, Indiana, and Murray, the dirt-poor maid’s son from the British West Indies, began in 2006 when Jackson  took a temporary home in Vegas.
    Murray, who had practices in Las Vegas and Houston, explains: ‘I had treated the father of one of his bodyguards. Michael’s children were sick, as was he, with a viral flu infection. I went to the house and gave Michael hydration with what we call a “banana bag”, a bag of saline with added vitamins.
    ‘I placed the IV in his arm and he said, “You are very skilful at that.”  I replied, “That’s what I do.” ’
    The doctor retains the affable bedside manner and easy charm that  no doubt attracted Jackson; a man who by his own admission preferred the company of children to adults ‘because they are the only ones who don’t seek to take advantage’.
    Murray is a self-confessed flirt (who has fathered seven children with six different women) and says with a grin: ‘I’ve never smoked a cigarette in my life. I don’t drink and I’ve never taken illicit drugs. My only weakness is a pretty face.’
    Not his: Dr Murray says he knows Michael Jackson is not the biological father to any of his three children and that he never had sex with Debbie Rowe, mother of Prince Michael and Paris
    Not his: Dr Murray says he knows Michael Jackson is not the biological father to any of his three children and that he never had sex with Debbie Rowe, mother of Prince Michael and Paris
    Left behind: Michael Jackson's children Prince Michael, Blanket and Paris did not believe Dr Murray killed their father, he claims
    Left behind: Michael Jackson's children Prince Michael, Blanket and Paris did not believe Dr Murray killed their father, he claims

    The friendship developed rapidly. Jackson, smarting from his second child sex abuse trial in 2005 and vowing never to set foot again in his Neverland Estate, trusted no one.
    ‘Michael lived like a recluse with his children. He was a prisoner of whatever home he was in,’ Murray says. ‘In the beginning we talked a lot about medicine. He was fascinated by human anomalies and congenital malformations. He was obsessed by the Elephant Man.
    ‘I gave him a book called the  Idiot’s Guide To The Body. He wanted to know everything: how many heart attack patients had I treated that day, what happens when someone flatlines .  .  .

    ‘He told me other doctors hadn’t been discreet. They would gossip about him.
    ‘He liked me because I wasn’t starstruck. The children loved me. We shared similar backgrounds.

    ‘He had a very unhappy childhood and was beaten and abused by his father. I came from poverty and didn’t meet my father until I was 25. We were both forgotten little boys.
    ‘Michael had a lot of lingering pain. He would sing the song The Little Boy Who Santa Claus Forgot to me and say, “That’s our song.”

    ‘As he grew to trust me he had someone to share his load. I was the keeper of his secrets.
    ‘I protected him. I am only  speaking now because I have been unfairly vilified.’

    Murray says Jackson often spoke of his loathing for his father Joe, who both physically and emotionally abused him as a child.

    He accused  his mother Katherine of being equally to blame ‘because she did nothing’ to stop the years  of abuse at the hands of his family and others.

    ‘He told me he believed he had been sexually assaulted by one  doctor while he had been under sedation. You name it, he had experienced it.

    Murray says that for the first two-and-a-half years of their friendship he treated the family for ‘minor  ailments’ which included Jackson’s insomnia, and administered skin whitening cream to give him the ‘porcelain’ skin he craved.

    The doctor rubbed cream into the pop star’s back and bathed his feet.
    ‘He transformed himself because he wanted to obscure where he came from. He wanted to look different from his family.

    ‘He wanted porcelain, flawless skin. Those were his words.’

    Murray insists he had no idea the star was a prescription drug addict.
    He says: ‘I confronted him only once. His veins were in a terrible state. I said, “Michael, I have never seen arms with such veins except in a drug addict.”

    ‘He looked back at me with big eyes and said, “Really, Dr Conrad?” I never asked again.


    Perhaps I was naive, but I genuinely had no idea until I went to live with him. The Michael I knew in private was very different from the public image.
    ‘He wasn’t a pretentious man. At home he mostly wore pyjamas and the same pair of old black leather slip-on shoes.

    ‘He was always running out of underwear. He wore white cotton briefs but would never let the maids in his room because he feared they would steal from him.

    ‘One of his famous white gloves lay on the floor for weeks. I kept walking around it. He told me, “If I let a maid in that glove would be gone.” ’

    Murray says that their friendship flourished through simple acts  of kindness.
    ‘Michael never had anyone who cared for him. I asked him why he always wore socks. He showed me his feet. They were terrible. Fungus had penetrated into the skin. He had calluses that went all the way to the bone. He was in agonising pain.’

    After Murray healed Jackson’s feet the grateful singer taught him to moonwalk in the kitchen as a thank you.
    Murray also assisted his friend in a more intimate way: ‘He wore dark trousers all the time because after he went to the toilet he would drip for hours.

    ‘You want to know how close Michael and I were? I held his penis every night. I had to put a condom catheter on him because Michael dripped urine. He had a loss of sensation and was incontinent.

    ‘Michael didn’t know how to put a condom on, so I had to do it for him.
    ‘His room smelled terrible. I  told him, “Michael you can’t live  this way, we have to get the maids in to clean the bedding.” Reluctantly, he agreed.

    ELIZABETH TAYLOR WAS MICHAEL'S 'REAL' MUM

    ‘Michael told me that Liz Taylor was more of a mother to him than Katherine ever was.
    ‘His father Joe Jackson was one of the destroyers of Michael, and Michael told me his mother was  an enabler.
    ‘The Jacksons only ever wanted money from him. Three weeks before Michael died, Joe turned up at the house and was pummelling on the gate wanting Michael to sign an agreement for a pay-per-view television show for the Return Of The Jackson 5.
    ‘Michael said to me, “I’m not in the Jackson 5. That’s a thing of the past. I don’t want to be a bank for my family any longer.”
    ‘Michael loved movies and Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. We sat and watched every single Bond movie there was.’
    ‘It was the most intimate thing but he trusted me. I was a doctor, so that sort of thing didn’t bother me.’

    Murray says that Jackson ‘constantly’ begged him to work for  him full-time. He says he rejected the advances because his practice was turning over more than £2.3 million a year.
    But then Jackson agreed to the This Is It concerts at London’s  O2 Arena starting in the summer  of 2009.
    The 100 shows were guaranteed  to pull him out of debt and earn him a minimum of £200 million.
    ‘He begged me to go with him to England to look after him and the children. He said he felt as if he might have a heart attack.
    ‘The stress was terrible. The insomnia was bad. He was decrepit, wasted. He was breaking down.
    ‘Physically and emotionally he couldn’t cope. He wasn’t looking  forward to going to London.
    ‘He also had a hip condition, where the hip bone comes out of the socket. Michael wanted to know if I could arrange a hip replacement.
    ‘He was worried, too, that the  promoters wouldn’t keep their promise to make four films with him after the concerts.
    ‘The first one was going to be Thriller in 3D. He didn’t trust AEG. He called the executives snakes.’
    Much has been made of the £100,000-a-month salary that Jackson agreed to pay Murray to go to London for a year.
    But he says it was never about  the money.

    ‘I never saw a penny. Not one dime. I agreed because Michael told me I’d meet kings and queens and all sorts of people I’d never get a chance to meet.
    ‘My motivation was to help my friend and to have a break.
    ‘We had already picked out houses. Michael had his place in the country and my house was down the road from his.’

    Dr Murray never did get to meet kings and queens and live in the English countryside.
    Instead, he now travels everywhere with bodyguards and refuses to reveal where he  is living because of death threats from grieving fans who have dubbed him Dr Death and Conrad Murderer.

    It is a charge he earnestly and steadfastly denies.
    When you hear him speak you are left in no doubt that, whether or not he  is telling the truth about what happened that night, he believes wholeheartedly in his own innocence.
    I did not kill Michael Jackson. He was a drug addict.
    ‘Michael Jackson accidentally killed Michael Jackson.

    18 comments:

    Anonymous said...

    Jackson was a child abusing lump of dung.I'm glad he died.

    john said...

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    Anonymous said...


    You people are disgusting. Dr. Murray has the right to defend himself. The man has genuine feelings and has suffered greatly throughout this ordeal. He is also a Cardiologist which is more than any of you are.

    As for Michael ever molesting little boys, not a single one of you know this to be true. You don't have x-ray eyes. You make me sick.

    Anonymous said...

    Stop defending a PEDOPHILE who PAID his VICTIMS you NASTY shite!!

    Anonymous said...

    Well said.

    Anonymous said...

    I believe Michael Jackson is fully responsible for his own death. He commanded this doc to shoot up his anesthesia sleeping meds. Being the drug addict he was, he would have just shot them up himself if this doc didnt do it for him.
    Michael Jackson was a pedophile who used his "Neverland" to lure kids. It is probably good that he is dead.
    He was a completely messed up person, and that is probably his Dad's fault for beating him everytime he missed a beat in his dance routine. He was not happy person and his nose had collapsed from plastic surgery.
    I do believe Joe Jackson probably turned Michael Jackson into the nutjob he was. I dont blame the doctor though. Michael Jackson killed himself. He was a pedophile, so it is not a loss. If anything the doctor should be applauded for ridding the earth of a pedophile who used his money to stay out of jail.

    Rose said...

    "Anonymous said...
    I believe Michael Jackson is fully responsible for his own death. He commanded this doc to shoot up his anesthesia sleeping meds."....

    A person cannot "command" their doctor to do anything. A doctor is an educated, independent professional. Michael Jackson was not a doctor, and had no formal medical training or education. Even if he "told" Murray what to do, Murray would 100% still be at fault. Murray, as a licensed doctor, is obligated under law to use his OWN professional judgement. There is absolutely NO SUCH DEFENSE for a doctor that a patient "commanded" them to do it.

    Anonymous said...

    Rose said "A person cannot "command" their doctor to do anything. A doctor is an educated, independent professional."

    I agree IF we are talking about a normal human being. In that case, no, a normal human being cannot "command" a doctor to do anything. However, Michael Jackson was not a normal human being and he successfully commanded many people to do many things. He paid people off to not prosecute him for his acts of molesting children. He held some parents captive in his Neverland ranch. He somehow evaded prosecution for these things using his fame and money. He was an incredibly manipulative, incredibly rich bully. Michael Jackson successfully commanded people of all walks of life to do unethical things including it would seem the people who were supposed to prosecute him for molesting children. Michael Jackson also took advantage of the most vulnerable children he could find CANCER PATIENTS in order to lure them to molest them.
    As a thinking person, I can believe that Michael Jackson did manipulate this doctor into being his personal drug injector. Obviously he was using manipulation to cultivate a very bizarre relationship with this doctor including telling the doctor their names would one day be synonymous and telling the doctor nightly sob stories. It doesn't take much to imagine Michael Jackson getting the doctor to feel pity for him through his nightly sob stories and then saying to him oh please just inject this medicine I can't sleep without it my life has been so painful. Michael Jackson was paying big bucks to him to be his drug injector. Was it ethical the doctor complied? No. But Michael Jackson is fully responsible. A heroine addict might ask someone else to shoot them up with the needle, but is it that person who helps them do it at fault for their choice to shoot up heroine? I say no. It is not a good thing, but the person who asks them to do it is far more at fault!
    The point of the matter is, Conrad Murray did the world a favor by injecting Michael Jackson with his sleeping drug of choice (does Michael Jackson have any responsibility for choosing an anesthesia used for surgery as his "sleeping pill of choice"?) because Michael Jackson was a predator. Michael Jackson knew the risks of this drug. The doctor did not force him to inject it. Michael Jackson insisted he give him his sleeping drug injection. Michael Jackson is 100% responsible for making the choice to use this drug that he knew full well could kill him for a sleeping drug. I don't know why everyone is blaming the doctor as Michael Jackson would have just injected himself if the doctor hadn't done it! He probably would have killed himself sooner! Michael Jackson was a pedophile so it is a good thing that he O.D.ed on his stupid surgery sleeping drug.

    i.know.who.i.am. said...

    Propofol must be administered in a hospital setting because it incapacitates the patient of involuntary activity, such as breathing. You must have a ventilator to use in conjunction with this particular anesthesia.
    Murray was aware of this, but Michael was never told. Propofol is injected into an IV catheter, Not by syringe directly into the patient.
    Murray was directing the situation and did not follow protocol. He should never be allowed to practice medicine again.

    Anonymous said...

    You wore yourself out typing all that drivel Rose. Which is what it is. Just drivel. Pathetic.

    Anonymous said...

    You don't know whether Michael was ever told, or not, @11;20.

    Nic said...

    i.know.who.i.am...

    Right on. Coincidentally, my (then grade 5) son did his weekly "in the news" presentation on Conrad Murray when he was sentenced for his crime. My son had to research what propofol was because he would be expecting questions and had to be able to answer them. He was shocked that a doctor would use an anesthetic meant to be used **in a hospital** as a "sleeping pill" at home. (Emphasis his, LOL)

    Conrad Murray may insist/believe he is innocent of any wrong doing regarding Jackson's death, and he is telling the truth when he says that Michael Jackson was an addict. However, having a "bucket" of propofol so as to "ween" him from his addiction appears contradictory to me. IMO he enabled Michael Jackson through opportunity and ignorance.

    Anonymous said...

    Lol

    Nic said...

    i.know.who.i.am

    Exactly.

    I didn't know that Propofol wasn't addictive (just deadly). That's right up there with weed (the gateway drug).


    Rose said...

    "As a thinking person, I can believe that Michael Jackson did manipulate this doctor into being his personal drug injector."...

    Of course Dr. Murray was just in it for the money and prestige of being MJ's personal doctor, but that does not change the fact that the burden was on Dr. Murray, and not MJ to administer proper medical care. The reason that the burden is on the doctor, is because so many people out there are just like MJ. Doctors make a lot of money because they have a big responsibility. Dr. Murray was convicted because HE was the person responsible for administering MJ's drugs. MJ may have asked for them, but it was the onus of the physician to deny them. Hence, a patient cannot command the doctor to do something which is an unacceptable medical practice. It is the burden of the doctor to refuse the patient's request.

    MJ gravitated to Murray because he knew Murray was an unethical person. But that does not change the fact that Murray, under the laws of the state of California, had a heightened duty of care which he breached when he administered the propofol to Jackson.

    Let me make something clear: I am sure MJ "insisted" on getting the propofol. I am also sure that MJ knew or should have know that getting propofol as a matter of course was not safe. But MJ was not a doctor. It was not up to HIM to make that call - that was the duty of the doctor. Any ethical, good doctor would have flat out refused him. A doctor who has been "manipulated" into giving a patient dangerous, unnecessary medical care is a doctor who has breached his duty and is thus at fault for the outcome.

    Murray's conviction and punishment were just.

    P.S. I think MJ was a rotten pedophile child molester and I could not be happier that he is dead and no more children will ever be the victims of his sickness. I am not "defending" him. I am simply pointing out that the doctor-patient relationship has a much stronger duty of care than a normal friendship relationship. Dr. Murray could never use a defense that MJ "directed" him to do something, which is why his ONLY defense at trial was that MJ did it to himself.

    Anonymous said...

    It would be impossible for MJ to continue the injection of propofol after he is already under the influence of propofol. I have had propofol given as an anesthetic four times; one goes into an immediate sleep as soon as the drip starts and awakes just as quickly but cannot act lucidly for a period of approx 15 mins or longer, making it impossible to re-sedate oneself immediately upon waking. This I do not question, but also know that it could not be used as a defense in blaming MJ for his own continuing sedation.

    However, I do question why MJ would appoint his mother as guardian of his children since she did nothing to protect him from his fathers' brutal abuse, allowing it to continue throughout his youth. Since his close relatives home and family were the very last ones MJ wanted anything to do with, why would he have his children placed in their environment and under his mothers' guidance upon his death?

    Since MJ claimed that all they ever wanted from him was money, why would he provide $89K per month initially for his mothers' use, subject to increase; which of course means that a large amount of this money would fall into the hands of his blood relatives that he wanted nothing to do with either physically, emotionally or financially? I do not understand how he could have claimed to love and trust his mother so much when she allowed his abuse; then expose his children to the possibility of being abused themselves while his own mother turned a blind eye?

    As to who the fathers of his children may be, it is easy enough for them to request and obtain DNA testing, which would settle the matter once and for all, so why belabor the issue? Children deserve to know who their bio parents are, so why has this not been established?

    Finally, it has been verified that Dr. Murray has never been paid a salary since he began treatment of MJ after MJ began rehearsing for the upcoming tour. AEG verbally agreed and was to have paid Dr. Murrays' salary but to date has never made the first payment to him as they had not executed the written agreement between themselves & MJ; even tho MJ had signed off on the agreement directing AEG to pay Dr. Murray, it was still pending signature of AEG officials at the time of MJs' death, therefore the agreement became null and void.

    Rose said...

    What I do not understand is why the court allowed Catherine Jackson to be guardian of the children. You may write down a name for guardian in your will, but children are not property, and so that is just a suggestion, not a command. IMO, women like Catherine Jackson are abusers too.

    MJ probably wrote his will but did not really believe he would die before his children were grown, thus he did not give the guardian idea a lot of thought.

    Cheryl Anne Harper said...

    Michael was a fool to trust this man. He should have been under the care of a psychiatrist. Someone who could truly be trusted and act as a therapist as well. He kept allocating duties and trust to people who were not aligned in those specific fields. Thinking everyone was his friend. Or his father. Or his new mother. Or his savior. He was delusional in this way. However he was pretty much pimped by both parents. Because of how crazily he grew up, it is no wonder he would have such a distored perception about everything. And all the screaming fans. Worshipping. Everyone giving him massive amounts of money-turning him into a diety. The level of his psychological disturbance must have been severe. All the time having the pressure on him of being a role model. Trying to be a father to children when he was basically banned from the world. In a way, he had the best life possible. People worshipping him, tons of money, access to everything on earth. In a way his life was disgusting. Full of spying, cheating, dull to all sensation because he had been bombarded by all of them. He probably felt like he was living in a cartoon. I don't know. I would have liked to have met him. A part of his soul was so very beautiful. But he was a very sick human being. It is his mother and father's fault. They did not protect him.