They have no association with the investigation and have only gleaned the information from media.
They relied upon Statement Analysis, Behavioral Analysis, and their own extensive experience in investigating homicides, as well as home invasions.
This is a short consensus of their opinion and what they think happened. It is a narrative of opinion.
All parties are innocent until proven guilty, including those in custody now. Police have stated that they knew, "100%" (from media) that the husband of the victim was not the shooter. Suspects are in custody in the murder. This represents private opinions on the publicly stated quotes and information.
Picture a needle with -10 to the left, 0 in the center, and + 10 to the right. 0 is neutral, while moving negative to the left, indicates potential guilt of the husband, while moving to the right suggests innocence of the husband.
1. Statistics
Most homicides involving pregnant women prove out to show involvement by the man close to her and the pregnancy, including husband, ex husband, estranged husband, or boyfriend.
Jealousy can enter such cases and lead to violence.
Some shaken baby victims, for example, were killed by the non-biological husband, who resented the child that he did not father. In this case, it is not known if there was infidelity on the part of the victim, but there was nothing in the statements to suggest anything but the husband being the father of the unborn child.
That the number one suspect in the murder of pregnant women is a statistic not ignored by the investigators and all felt this was important to be open to.
2. Relationship Quality
In domestic homicides, the quality of the relationship is always 'front and center' in the investigation. Since husband/boyfriends are the most likely responsible, investigators ask if there was a history of marital discord. If so, the percentages move in the specific direction of the earlier statistic.
In this case we are told by both the victim and the husband that the marital relationship was in turmoil to the point of separation, and with specific elements.
In domestic homicides, the husband is first viewed, and then the quality of the relationship is viewed, but investigators then look for something specific to happen to cause the violence: this is a "trigger." When a stressor or trigger is found, it also moves the statistical needle to move.
3. Trigger
A 'trigger' or a 'stressor' is something that pushes the relationship to the level where violence goes from thought to action; a stressor is sought to be identified by investigators. Many times the stressor is infidelity. This becomes an underlying anger that suppressed, can eventually surface against the child (shaken baby syndrome above) where the 'cuckolded' husband is saddled with a constant living breathing reminder of his wife's infidelity. It may be worse if the child is a boy and looks like the biological father. Infidelity on either part can be a trigger. If the husband has a new love interest, it could be a trigger in the bad relationship, just as if the wife has been unfaithful to him.
Other triggers can include sudden loss of job, change of job, loss of support, death in the family, pregnancy, and so on. Investigators seek to learn if something within the relationship has changed making a bad relationship now worse.
In this case, the investigators conclusively pointed to the husband's own identification of the trigger: pregnancy. The husband specifically named the pregnancy as the stressor or trigger that made the relationship disruption, though the wife identified the husband's career as the source of discord.
All recognized the acute obsession the husband had with his work as well as the distancing language between him and the victim as extreme. The initial statement as well as the consistent distancing language shown towards the victim confirmed the husband's and victim's assertions about the marital discord.
4. Behavioral Analysis
All investigators were bothered by the following points of the case:
a. The timing of the home invasion
b. The element of violence in the home invasion
c. The patterns of behavior by the husband
That each Tuesday he not only went to the gym at the same time, but always had the same pone call, at the same time on the very date of the home invasion robbery.
That on this particular date, the husband stayed out of the home for a full 40 minutes while his wife lay dying stood out, in particular, as 'taking the coincidence too far' for reason, to the investigators.
Although the showing off of a gun in a 'sermon' stood out, powerfully, as a revelation of what was on his mind, just days before the murder, it was the additional and apparently unnecessary delay, in the driveway, that no investigator could dismiss. They stated that they would need to learn that this, too, was his pattern, to reduce the suspicion based upon coincidence.
All were also confronted with the husband's lack of fear of the uncaught killers, as if he had confidence that he could not possibly be the next target.
All attempted to 'explain away' any of these points, to justify innocence. Each attempt, including examining religious language, did not suffice. That there was no call for justice was bothersome, but not so much as having a home invaded and a wife murdered: he had no fear. This coupled with not only distancing language, but was taken with the drive for the career, all stood out as behavior suggesting knowledge of the crime.
5. Intelligence of Husband
This was another universal point: he is well above average intelligence and would not have been so foolish as to hire a hitman.
They stated that if he orchestrated the opportunity for the crime, he used this intelligence.
All expressed concern about local law enforcement training and/or ability to conduct a thorough interview with the husband, due to his mastery of language and intellect. They stated that a highly skilled interviewer was needed and most expressed some concern of local unwillingness to utilize federal assistance in interviewing.
The intelligence was noted in the publishing and commercializing of the murder; he knew how to present himself and attempt to utilize the death for the future salesmanship, including calling the murder a "story" and "event." It was also noted that in his attempt to gain authority over others, he revealed himself in the 'shower' statement, which should stand very strongly to investigators in how to strategize the interview: they must use his intelligence to get him to reveal the truth.
6. A Powerful Secret
All stated that the analysis of the 'hidden secret lie' was likely sexuality. This was affirmed by:;
a. The mentor's statement about "something very wrong" in which a female would rectify
b. The "shower" statement, which they concluded not only an association with the psychological need for cleansing.
c. His mentor's own wording: while avoiding speaking of Christ's Resurrection and specific details of the victim's own life and love of Christ, the mentor spoke in sexual terms about the physical attributes of the husband indicating that sex was on the speaker's mind.
d. The videos. They stated that the videos showed not only one who frequently spoke about sex, but seemed to have a need to persuade his audience of his sex drive...for women. Examples cited included the reference to the gym, his depersonalizing of the victim in his 'we have to have sex before dinner' statement, as well as his deliberate choreographing for the audience, including clothing, bearing and appearance.
That one would 'live a lie' is associated with continual stress and ongoing resentment, which can build over time, and be pushed to action by a stressor or 'trigger' event. The lie, if true, that is lived, is one in which bitterness never goes away, even during happier times and can grow with time.
If the victim knew of this secret, a sense of impotence could come over the liar, himself, and build resentment, fearful of exposure at any time, with the sense of living in a marriage of "blackmail", even unspoken, while being silently coerced into submission, lest 'she tell.'
This can lead to great fear of not only exposure, but fear of divorce.
A divorce would cripple his career and was not an option.
The last portion of deep embittered feelings in living a lie is the thought that happiness or contentment may 'exist with another', only increasing resentment of the victim, over time.
This was something heavily discussed in light of the distancing language he used. The language of distance was consistent with resentment.
The 'correction' of language was noted: whether he or advisors read the analysis, there were changes made after analysis was posted.
It was also noted, though not heavily, that the distancing language with his son (and pre born murdered child) was consistent with one 'living a lie in life', full time. Each point continues to push the needle in the negative, lower and lower.
7. Home Invasions
All pointed to the crime scene as having elements of possible staging, if, for example, she was not sexually assaulted. In cases where the clothing is removed without sexual assault, the perpetrator may have done this for the appearance of sexual assault.
Other elements noted included the unlocked door combining with the routine of the gym, and the phone call, coupled with what is known about home invasions: most seek to go in and out quickly, undetected, and want either items to quickly pawn, or cash, which would suggest prior knowledge of the home (drug dealers have cash, for example) but home invasions do not always have such violence, and if met with resistance, the violence is generally not associated with the removal of clothing.
Questions that arose include if these same perpetrators committed violence in other robberies, and if so, what was the nature of the violence, and what was the result of the violence, warranting answers.
Conclusion
The investigators all stated that the nature of the case pointed to anything but random. The details all point to orchestration.
What was asked was to consider this possible scenario:
That if the husband is involved, he would have used his intellect to orchestrate it, and would not have simply sought out a killer to be easily traced.
He would have had contact with members higher up in the gang, through schools, or the church, who would hear an opportunity that included a severe complaint against the wife. They would be able to send low level criminals to the right neighborhood, and to the right home, at the right time, where not only would the husband not be home, but the door would be unlocked, there would be items easily available for theft and pawning, while a 'hated woman' would be alone, hinting, but not stating, that life would be far better without her.
Understanding that someone was willing to allow his home to be vandalized was enough of an invitation. With complaints about the wife, especially the sexual complaints (which included public statements) would be enough 'hint' to let a gang know where an easy robbery would result and young gang's ruthlessness (dedication to the gang) could be tested.
That the husband remained on the driveway for 40 minutes instead of taking the call inside the house upon his arrival stands out as 'all too much' to be a coincidence. It is not known, but apparently possible, that had he gone in 40 minutes earlier, that the stopping of the bleeding, or hinderance of it, may have saved her life.
As they stated, everything taken together suggests orchestration of this crime. The details each fall into place and given his intelligence, he would have 'suggested' a good place for a gang to hit, giving the address, date and time.
They needed to hear motive. They did.
They needed to have:
1. The statistics of who does this
2. The marital relationship weighed in the negative
3. The presence of a stressor or trigger taking a negative further
4. The Behavior of the husband immediately after the murder
5. Examined the husband's intellectual ability to pull this off
6. A Secret, but powerful lie that is lived evidenced
7. Home invasions examined and factored in
They factored all of these in, with all fulfilled.
Theories
Most theories in a homicide are presented for debate; while other theories present themselves over time.
This is the latter.
All these elements factored in to produce a theory that they felt would be difficult to disprove in order to be comfortable professionally.
Some theories are presented and then examined. In this case, the theory developed naturally, with the post crime statements and behavior.
When a theory is developed naturally, we attempt to 'punch holes' in it, attempting to disprove it. They found the 'needle' consistently pushing to the left, unable to make strong arguments to the contrary.
Police, thus far, appear satisfied that they have solved the crime and that the husband is not involved.
There are those who do not have access to the information police have suspect the husband's involvement.
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Yes, and you can see that he's proud of his steroid use every time he flexes his muscles and struts around for all to see them and his gorgeous abs. Or so he thinks he is a beauty to behold, with the right clothes to show it off. I wouldn't however, just confine his drug usage to only steroids which side affects are bad enough without adding more. His brains are scrambled and that's a fact, crazy as a loon and getting worse.
It IS drugs; Bingo gives a good physical description of crazy Davey's dilated eyes above in a recent video. Crying from grief does not give one dilated eyes without them also having hoarseness in their voice, and a swollen and red face from crying, and an unkempt appearance. Nope. Not Davey. His dilated eyes were due to having taken dope, sucked up his nose, further proof showing in his red nostrils in some photos. Soon he will be sucking snot up his nose and whining about his allergies and sinus infections. Yeah.... right.
Amanda HAD to know Davey was doing drugs. She had too. The druggie cannot keep his actions silent at home, they become too moody, hardly sleeping, volatile and mean, plus they lie and spend every dime they can get their slimy hands on and are in and out at all hours of the day and night, getting more. They reach a point where they don't even try to hide it at home or their constant nonsense babbling.
IMO, Amanda knew and was likely very scared of him, not knowing what to do or what he might do or say next. I believe she knew who killed her that morning, that her own husband was involved and it was HE who set the stage for her death. No telling what curses and blame he said to her as she lay there dying in pain and unable to move, with him watching her die and not helping her. Yes, I can easily imagine this happening.
It isn't just the Bryar family he has destroyed, although they are the main ones suffering in agony, but he has also destroyed his own family. They ignored the warnings years ago that all was not well with their boy and are having to live with bitter regrets for what he has done and are helpless to do anything about it now. I just hope Amber is reading here and taking it all in. SOMEBODY needs to be able to step forward at some point and try to get little Weston away from him whether or not he is ever charged in Amanda's murder. IMO, the child is in danger; if he isn't now he will be. Davey Blackburn is a cruel and evil man. ABB
Crazy Davey sat in his car, in his driveway. waiting, for almost an hour, UNTIL the ONLY other neighbour on the cul de sac to be robbed, came home.
He concluded his ALIBI call with KW when he saw the neighbour come home. ( and asked KW to tweet about the call?)
He waited for the neighbour to call 911. ( 4 minutes)
Then he called 911.
He's so obviously involved in his poor wife's murder.
What are the odds?
Yes he did and he is, Anon @6:47. What are the odds? There aren't any other odds. It was AND IS, blatantly obvious. Even if Peter hadn't posted his article wherein he had conferred with other detectives about the circumstances of Amanda's murder "What are the odds?" with them all agreeing there were no reasonable odds that he wasn't involved; it STILL was obvious that there WERE no odds, he WAS involved, with or without their input. It couldn't have been any other way.
The thing is, I'm not so sure Davey hadn't already disabled Amanda and set the scene just the way he wanted it. Something was going on in that house that morning before he ever left for the gym. Neighbors verified that he was 41 minutes later than his usual time for leaving for the gym at 5:30 am but THIS morning he left at 6:11? THEN, (deliberately!) leaving the front door unlocked, with Amanda unable to get to it to lock it? She would have been up; she was ALWAYS up that early doing her Bible study. How much more convenient could he have made it for the pre-arranged intruders?
THEN with his good ole phone bud preacher Kenneth W conveniently confirming their usual weekly hour long phone conversation as Davey 'sat in his car' that morning (never mind that their conversation WASN'T a full hour unless the conversation started while Davey was still at the gym doing his work out; and never mind if in fact, Davey could have been sitting right there looking on as Amanda slipped into unconsciousness AND passed on);
THEN KW finalizing his comment with something like "that's all you need to know?" OH REALLY?! That's ALL everyone needs to know? AND LE fell for it?! God help us; KW HELPED this fool get away with killing his wife with LE declaring him innocent less than 24 hours later, after Davey deliberately skirting around having LE there as the EMT's hauled Amanda away; having nothing to go on other than confirmation that he WAS at the gym and this old buddy's final words that he was sitting in his car on the phone with him for the last hour?! And anyone could wonder what are the odds?
Poor Amanda. Just looking at her posts and videos in the days and weeks before he killed her, her worried look and her prayers asking God for help with "her problem" clearly shows her fears that something is terribly wrong, so much so that she doesn't know where to turn and is pleading for help the best she knew how, while having to keep it to herself. She was living in fear, knowing she had big troubles with lunatic dope head Davey before that fateful morning. I am so sad for her and the brutal, violent, helpless way she and her unborn angel baby girl died. ABB
One of the things that galls me the most is how Davey would insult and humiliate Amanda for being pregnant and for claiming her pregnancy with Weston destroyed their marriage. OH, WHAT A Lo-LIFE B'STARD.
WHOSE sperm and WHOSE d--k does he think it was who GOT her pregnant??! If he was so adamantly and vocally against her getting pregnant, why in hell didn't he keep his d--k and his sperm in his pants!!!!!? It was HE who coerced and caused it. And no one ever spoke up pointing out to him how it was HIS own fault? He had other outlets, why didn't he use THEM instead of forcing Amanda? And if that's not good enough, for God's sakes get a vasectomy. Such a whining homo fool. ABB
Did I drive everyone away? Gosh. I am SOOO sorry. I promise, I'll stop. Later. ABB
I'm sure you didn't drive anyone away ABB, just getting slower as time passes with little news.
I do want to bring up a point on what you were all discussing about Davey and potential drug usage. I found several clips of Davey referencing drugs.
From the #FORINDY Week 3 - Initiate - Davey Blackburn
"And so, so I like I knew I wasn't going to pass this class, except for one of my roommates was like, hey man you need to try this and I was like whaddya got, ya got speed, ya got crack cocaine, whaddya got man like yellow jackets...'cause I don't know about any of that kinda stuff but.... he goes, he goes nooo you need to try this coffee."
Yellow jackets? That was a drug back in the 70's. If you google it, there is a page that describes a modern use, I snipped the following:
There is a company now selling an 'herbal' stimulant under the brand name Yellow Jackets which seems to be intentionally using this drug name association. Its primary active ingredients are ephedrine and caffeine and also includes some capsicum (hot pepper extract).
Sounds right up Davey's alley. He mentions steroids and smoking weed in other sermons. He o.d.'s on caffeine daily, not a stretch to imagine he has other drugs of choice that he may have grown a liking to.
ABB
You haven't driven me away - I am waiting for something new to transcribe.
I agree with your theory that DB disabled Amanda himself before the burglars arrived. I would speculate that DB had a throwaway phone that he used to communicate with the boss that morning. He didn't take action against Amanda until he knew the thugs were in place (hanging around, eating oranges, as all burglars tend to do) at the neighbors house and ready for their part.
I can't imagine planning and executing such a crime, but judging from the gun-waving sermon, DB couldn't wait to put his plan in action. But everything had to be set and ready - once it was a "go", there was no turning back.
If DB was smarter, he would take a page from Wendell Noyes' book and SHUT UP.
He can't incriminate himself if he SHUTS UP and slinks away to live quietly in losertown.
I just want to say I haven't gone away. I just rarely have posted. I read this every single day to see what is new, hoping something comes to light soon. I moved to Sweden last summer, so there's a several hour time difference but I check in the morning my time for what you talk about during the evening into the night, then I check in the afternoon to see what you all have said in the morning. I tell you this to encourage you to keep posting, keep digging, keep hoping for justice for Amanda. I don't know why this case gets to me, but it does. I am sure there are others besides me that read this blog daily but don't post either, and appreciate your comments.
I also feel strongly that DB disabled her before he left that morning, and had someone either finish the job, which feels like a horribly blunt way to put it but that's it, in a nutshell.
I didn't completely finish my last thought. I meant to say he either had someone finish the job, or he set them up to take the rap, but I lean more toward him hiring them (higher up the chain of command of the gang) to finish what he started.
ABB, I actually typed up two or three posts but ended up deleting them because I couldn't word them to where they made sense. It did seem like you were the only one here. LOL. I especially liked Anons 6:47 post. The coincidence of him hanging out in the driveway and not going in until the neighbor got home is so eerie. That's always bothered me. I really, really want to know what his demeanor was like when help first arrived. Also when police talked to him and how he was at the hospital.
New corrected tweets. Finally dropped #nothingiswasted!
DB on twitter https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn?lang=en
2/5/16
It's so good to hear your voice and laugh again, @amandagblackburn. I can't wait to hear it with my heavenly ears!!
2/6/16
A year ago tomorrow @amandagblackburn snapped this photo of our little church taking the largest step of faith Jesus had yet called us to. It was by far the greatest challenge we had ever faced. Unbeknownst to us it would not be the greatest challenge we would face during the year. Tomorrow we celebrate God's faithfulness over a year in which we've experienced both delightful joys and deep sorrow. It is excruciatingly painful to know that @amandagblackburn will not be by my side, but I take joy in knowing she has the best seat in the house. From her now perfect perspective she will be watching what Jesus is going to do in the years to come and will be cheering us on more than ever. Our God has always been faithful and He always will.
Bobcat, ref your post above @ 7:09; I have gone back and read it three times, not so much that it confuses me or that I fail to understand it, but because it leaps off the page at me that drug addled crazy Davey did not write these words.
Specifically, he doesn't have the clarity of mind to put together the twitter post made on 02/06. In all of this time his mind has not been clear enough to even give an intelligent sermon, not even before Amanda was murdered; much less make a post as clear and intelligent as this one. Nope, those are not Davey's words, he isn't smart enough to make a post like this one. Someone else wrote that post for him. Those are NOT his words. Stupid idiot doesn't think we will see the difference?
Ha! So, they're reading here and attempting to make him sound divine and not dope addled and stupid, which he IS. So this would be why their stupid saying "the best is yet to come" has been dropped, as I HOPE they FINALLY learn that "nothing goes to waste" is ALSO a stupid thing to keep saying when the best is not yet to come, it has already come and gone; and "nothing goes to waste" is even stupider, when even a fool knows that everybody eventually lands out in the cemetery, and everything else turns to either rust, putrification, or rot and ruin.... IDIOTS.
If they can only learn that Amanda is NOT cheering them on or running along a beach toasting a drink to them; that Amanda is dead, she has no memory of the former things, her work on this earth is over, she is resting in Christ. This is Biblical. They cannot practice witchcraft and serve God at the same time. They need to learn what the Bible says about the spirits of the dead; when they learn this, they will KNOW that Amanda is not among us.
She is NOT skipping about and tormenting herself over what is going on there or seated in your congregation cheering you on. Get real Davey; LEARN what is scriptural and what isn't; until then shut your pie hole misleading people with your idiocy. You cannot rewrite the Bible to suit yourself, like you have been doing. Your days are numbered; God will ultimately strike you dead for doing this, and THEN you will face your OWN eternal judgment and damnation.
We see you, we know you and your little close-knit misled buds are reading here; we also know how much you hated Amanda and that you killed her and her precious little unborn angel-baby girl that you did not want. Get over yourself, and get off your throne, fool. ABB
There's that other thing they say "whatever it takes" that fires me up to no end. "WHATEVER IT TAKES"???! Just think of the consequence of such a thing! This could lead from obsessive manipulation, to drowning the baby to stop it from crying, to bank robberies, prostitution, slapping your mother to get money, to force conning a young virgin girl, OR WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!
Jesus Christ, have these people no mind AT ALL??? How stupid does it get! Even elderly old people whose mind might be slipping into regression don't go around making these kinds of crazy remarks. Even they know better. ABB
Glad to see that not everyone has abandoned ship, or that I did not cause anyone to give up in disgust and move on. I admit, I can get a little wordy sometimes when maybe I ought not too. My apologies. However, I do see Davey as raping Amanda whenever it suited him; simple fact, for all his blaming and whining; it was HE who got HER pregnant and not she herself.
When you consider that she couldn't even have a conversation with him, or sit down to eat a meal she had just prepared without first having sex with Davey, THAT IS RAPE. You can call it coercion, negotiation or whatever you like, but it is STILL rape. Poor girl, it didn't matter how she felt, or if she was tired and hungry, or needed to discuss some urgent matter with him, she STILL had to accommodate Davey's sexual needs FIRST. The lo-life b'stard. He makes my skin crawl. I would have HATED sex with him; most likely she did too.
Rape, yes indeedy. He doesn't want anymore kids? Then wear a condom, you dumbass, or get yourself fixed; OR turn to one of your other outlets. God knows, you had them. But remember the scripture, Davey: "It is better to cast your seed on the ground than in the belly of a whore." Guess he couldn't afford a whore, either male or female, needing money for his dope? Or did you do that too? I could say more but why bother. It would just get uglier, when we already get the picture.
Good to see ya, JT. Glad you stopped in, hope you are enjoying life in Sweden. Oh yes, I DO believe that Davey had already disabled Amanda before he left that morning, forty-one minutes later than usual. It's the only thing that really makes sense. The entire 'job' was a set up. He left Amanda there to die alone, having set up the intruders to enter, if not to finish her off at least to entrap them to point the finger of guilt on THEM. Either way, he had CHA, and for $400 bucks.
The mystery is why some of them left Taylor there alone, willingly, and took off to go across town to get the money from Davey's ATM that was closest to his gym location; at the least they needed precise instructions since they had already tried one ATM but the amount was too high and they got rejected; then had to go all the way back to pick Taylor up.
What this tells me (speculating) is that Amanda was not dead yet and they needed to catch up with Davey quickly to get the ATM card and pin# from him first, then again for instructions which directed them to the ATM Davey always used; all which could have been very easily arranged by them meeting him outside his gym or while on his way to his gym, and picking it up and later by cell to get better instructions.
It is very easy to get in and out of locked exit doors that are not being covered under CC, that one typically is not supposed to use. (Real estate people know how to do it and do it all the time, just as they know how to skirt and enter locked guard gates when they have no key card or code#).
From beginning to end, there are several possibilities here but NONE that do not involve Davey's participation in Amanda's murder, beginning before he even left for the gym. "Whatever it takes", right Davey? Surprise, surprise, when he discovered Amanda STILL had not died when he reentered the home later that morning after all his elaborate plans, right Davey?
But OH the rejoicing around her bed when he became convinced she was brain dead and would never be able to talk and tell what you had done to her, rid of her, right Davey? You think you've gotten away with it, like you've gotten away with every rotten thing you ever did in your whole rotten life; but I think the white-jacket guys will be coming for you in time, Davey. ABB
Pak, not to worry about your posts, girl! You always make clear, concise and carefully thought-out intelligent posts. I wouldn't give it a second thought, we all make little typos or reach a point where we cannot clearly get our point across and just hope that it becomes obvious what we are trying to say.
Even though I have studied college level speech and English extensively; BTW, being well taught not to speak above the head of others, but to bring your conversation down to their level; I certainly do not have a degree in English; don't think I've seen anyone else here who does either. Peter might, possibly. You just hang in there, your posts are always appreciated, Pak. ABB
ABB, I think you are right that Davey did not write those posts. They don't sound like his 'voice.'
Nope, mom2many. The one posted on the 5th wasn't thought up by him either. Clearly not those above written by Davey, or even thought of by him. He is void of conscience and natural affection.
If he doesn't think we recognize his coldness and cruelty by now, he is WAY off his beam. Even further than I thought initially.
Too late Davey to try to save yourself now. We get it loud and clear, who you are and what you are. It'd be better for you if you cleaned up your lying act and were talking to God about these hypocritical posts of yours, you might have a chance with Him, but you can't change a thing here. There's no going back now Davey, you've already cooked your goose here. ABB
I am still lurking too - looking several times a day to see if anything has broken in this case and to see what all of you are posting.
I agree that Davey did not write those tweets and that he had to have been stunned and caught completely off guard when he wandered into his house that morning after "doing life" on the phone with Kenneth Wagner and watching for the neighbor to arrive home and call 911 - and after all of that time at the gym and on the phone, Amanda was still alive. . .
DOH !
Mark Sievers is still freely cruising around Bonita Springs, FL even though it is totally obvious that his best friend and an accomplice killed his wife while he was in Connecticut (another supposedly air-tight alibi, just as being seen on camera at the gym and being on the phone would be?)
They are coming for Mark Sievers and they will be coming for Davey Blackburn too - it's just a matter of time. I cannot imagine the detectives of Indy Metro, the FBI, the EMTs and anyone else ignoring the scene, his demeanor, whatever was said on the 911 call to avoid police showing up initially, the interviews afterward, the foreshadowing before. If all of Peter's seasoned detectives said "nobody is this lucky" upon just having the circumstances described to them, shouldn't it be obvious to those who were actually there that morning?
I think they are building a case against Davey and being sure it will stick - just like with Mark Sievers, Scott Patterson and so many other situations where it looked like the person got away with it at first and then months or years later, everything came crumbling down.
I would imagine CD has had to agree to let PN's PR people try to rehabilitate his image if they ever expect to make a few bucks off his wife's death, hence the new I-love-Amanda "voice" in his tweets and FB messages.
The media voice may change but the over-the-top coincidences will never go away and will follow Davey to his grave or until the Internet goes away which isn't likely.
NewSpring better get Davey a sermon-writer if they ever expect Resonate to get off the ground. Oh, and a sermon-deliverer! Which leaves Davey out in the cold, doesn't it? Oh, well. Maybe someone else will pay him to drink coffee and perform weird skits which embarrass his next wife!
I wonder if Davey actually thought Amanda was dead when he called 911. Her heartbeat might have been so slow that he felt pretty sure she was dead when he called. Maybe he didn't even check?
From Donae, Bull's supposed wife or mama baby?? Her post just a minute ago. (She removes her posts very quickly but this is what she said.) "Sometimes I just want to pack up and go faraway. Wish I could start my life over sometimes and made better decisions. I love Aden with all of me, I just want so much more for him. I'm making steps though. #DontCountMeOut #PrayForMe" We all know she knows what happened. Will she get tired of the gang life she leads with Bull and finally talk?
Maybe witness protection?? Ha!
Bingo3,
Yes, I think Witness Protection would be upward mobility for Donae!
What a terrible set of circumstances for an 18 year-old mother! She goes back and forth, hour to hour, between cussing up a storm and trying to score drugs to talking like one so close to God and His church. She says she's registering for college soon and wants to make something of her life for her son. How will she ever do that up to her ears in Alonzo's crimes? She doesn't seem to have family on her side. Sad.
Maybe she'll leave Alonzo and move in to babysit for Davey? Oh, sorry, Meg!
DB tweet 2/9/16
"What I would have given to have grabbed some Chinese take out after work, come home to these two for our normal Tuesday evening family time, sing to Weston together at bedtime, put him to sleep, and cuddle up on the couch together with popcorn and a movie. I miss you more than I ever though possible, @amandagblackburn . . . soon and very soon"
The tense is still all wrong on that one. Nice try, though.
Bobcat, thanks for sharing. That last one was the fakest fake tweet ever tweeted. Gah!
So what's the scoop with the dramatic change? The person he was seeing is gone, so it's safe to show affection to Amanda now? He has a PR person/ghost writer? His twitter impressions count went down? Something happened.
His last few tweets sound as if they were written by a woman, don't they?
You're durn right something happened, Bottle Cap; like someone else is penning his posts for him. That crap about "... what I would have given to grab some Chinese take out AFTER WORK...." cracks me up. Where the hell did he work! Just that bullshyt alone tells us the rest of his post is more bullshyt lies. Renting use of the school auditorium for play-acting Sunday services only is NOT working; and forcing Amanda to leave little Weston crying hysterically and alone no matter what his problem was, because Davey wouldn't allow her to go to him, is NOT putting the baby to sleep.
Davey wasn't renting office space at the school nor could he wander in and out of the school at will anytime he chose, his use of the school facility was confined to Sunday ONLY; so pray tell where the hell did he work? HE DIDN'T. The most I've heard about his office was drinking coffee and sharing little tete-a-tete gatherings with his buds in and out all day at Starbucks; and even that I gathered Starbucks was tired of having him hanging around. The rest of the time he was in and out of his house and back out again, criticizing and making Amanda's life a living hell.
So, tell us lazy crazy Davey, WHERE EXACTLY DID YOU WORK? ABB
Yes they do, Anon @5:18. ABB
Cute, Concerned, that maybe Donae could move in and babysit for Davey. Ooops, sorry Meg. Got a laugh out of that one. But seriously, yes it is tragic that she has messed up her life at such a young age, but messed it up good is exactly what's she's done. Maybe eventually she can gather up enough strength to move on.
I hope that at some point she does turn states evidence and tell all she knows, but as for her ever being allowed to go into the witness protection program, I would rather doubt that. She is too volatile, unstable, flighty and of bad repute in her own drug usage. And there she is with an innocent baby to raise. Too bad.
What she really needs is a babysitter herself, and some serious counseling and guidance. I can't see her settling down enough to be trust worthy in a protection program where these people have to relocate to parts unknown, change their name and among other things make no contact with anyone else they ever knew in their past life. I think she realizes how badly she has flubbed up her life, but I can't see Donae ever being emotionally strong enough to pull this off, can you? ABB
Flightfulbird, it was nice to see you back again... Good post.
However, there was no way Davey wasn't aware that Amanda was still alive. Shocked, sure, perhaps only detecting shallow breathing; to think, after all the time he had waited for her to die; but knew he did. Remember how he deliberately skirted around asking for 911 to send LE officers, NOT telling the dispatcher that someone had broken into his home and attacked his wife, etc., etc., when he SAW the evidence of outsiders in his home, but making it sound like she had hurt herself in a little fall?
He DID see her panties and duct tape lying beside her, basically nude with the exception of her shirt being pulled up exposing her breasts; he DID see her purse askew and drug paraphernalia lying on the kitchen counter; he DID see Amanda lying in a pool of blood, having been shot THREE times. Yet he said nothing to the 911 dispatcher about the obvious intruder crime that he supposedly knew nothing about, ONLY stating that it appeared his wife had had an accident, knocking over a ladder and a planter. This was ALL deliberate Flightfulbird, and there was NO WAY Davey Blackburn did not know his wife had been brutally attacked, SHOT and was dying.
His disappointment was that she STILL was not dead and he knew it, otherwise he could have said "I just came home and found my wife dead, murdered..." but this is not what happened; now he's in a quandary how to keep LE out of his house until he can get her out of there, AND whatever evidence he did not want them to have, which is exactly what he did. If he had not needed to hide her murder and his participation in it, he would have asked for 911 to send LE in addition to assistance from EMT's. OH my, how clever he thinks he is. AND WAS. ABB
Flightfulbird; part of my post above was intended for Concerned, in whose post yesterday @2:35, she wondered if Davey thought Amanda was dead when he called 911. In my post I am stating that I believe Davey knew she wasn't dead when he called the 911 dispatch, skirting around and deliberately avoiding asking for LE to come. IMO, this HAD to be deliberate on his part.
Even at that; if he were so innocent in her attack, why WOULDN'T he had asked for LE to be sent right away whether she was dead or not? Makes no sense why he wouldn't if he were innocent in her attack. By not doing so, with the condition she was in, as well as the obvious evidence, right there he gives himself away. ABB
Why all of the sudden the "change of heart" with his tweets. No more "Nothing is Wasted" and "The Best is Yet to Come"?? He does every single thing for selfish purposes so I am wondering if he feels like the police are watching him? Have they come calling? I wouldn't be surprised. He feeling pressure to look like a real grieving hubby? Interesting.
DB Latest post is about Elizabeth Elliot's journal entries about Jim Elliott. Someone posted that Amanda is the modern day Jim Elliot. Wow. Davey also called the Book of Psalms, King David's journal entries. He is setting up for the book "Amanda's Story". He really has rationalized that her death is actually a good thing because they world will experience a revival of epic proportions and the book will be a best seller.
I know most people here assume, based on one tiny sentence in the affidavit, that it's Davey's fault that only EMTs came to his house. But has anyone besides me even questioned why it took 14 minutes for police to arrive after the EMTs requested their presence? The Blackburn home is only 1.9 miles from their district police headquarters. Fourteen minutes ... 1.9 miles! And there had already been a call for police to the neighbor's home four minutes before Davey called 911 (the neighbor's call was 13 minutes before EMTs requested police and a full 27 minutes before police arrived at the Blackburn home).
Yet no police were in the neighborhood when EMTs arrived? The neighbor's break-in likely would have been considered a low-priority call because nobody was hurt and the burglars were gone, so if the police had already arrived for that call, they likely would have left the neighbor's home to deal with what was happening at the Blackburns. After all, most people here insist the EMTs would have been super-pissed when they arrived and realized it was a crime scene and would have wanted police to make sure there were no burglars still in the house.
Has anyone considered there was some confusion on the part of dispatchers because they had already called for an officer a the neighbor's home? Or that dispatch thought there was already an officer in the neighborhood (or at least very close), but the EMTs got there first? Or that the officer called to the first break-in was unexpectedly delayed, which wouldn't have been a big deal for the first call ... a low-priority call?
I doubt anyone wants to consider this because it doesn't fit the "everything is Davey's fault" narrative, but what if you're wrong? What if Davey did indeed tell the dispatcher Amanda appeared to have been assaulted? And please don't say that you can tell everything he did/didn’t say by reading the affidavit, because that's not true. There's nothing in the document to suggest he asked for EMTs only.
Bingo, re your post @8:35, I hate to tell ya friend; also I hate to make you or anyone else feel discouraged, but I WOULD be surprised if LE came calling, or even if they are snooping around. Why would they? 1) They've made it clear they do not want to hear anymore about it; they've got 'their guys' and that's all they want to know. 2) They acted very quickly, letting Davey off the hook, taking all the evidence with him immediately and during the first 24 hours that would have incriminated him, declaring him innocent. To hell with the evidence they never pursued or even tried to gather.
IMO, they aren't about to dig into it now, when, 1) they don't have anything to go on since Davey already removed all the evidence. Where would they start? We DO understand don't we; he already contaminated, removed, destroyed and pilfered all the evidence, all with the blessings of LE? And, 2) they aren't about to admit to any mistaken judgment now. They swept it all under the rug from the first day.
The big question is: WHY? WHO in their employ has such a tightly wound connection with local LE and some other persuasive power that would allow Davey to escape so easily and quickly? There lies an answer to this big question somewhere within Indy LE that quite possibly includes a local journalist, also with connections.
I think, that if Davey Blackburn is ever investigated in Amanda's murder it is way down the road after a new administration and officers/investigators are in office; and then, more than likely caused as a result of some analyst/crime writer snooping around, digging up dirt and demanding a new investigation. Otherwise, LE seems to have closed the matter they never had open in the first place; merely looking to prove they did a nice tidy job in apprehending those who are presently in jail and being prosecuted. Case closed.
I don't believe a single one in the Indy LE has the guts, inquisitive intelligence OR the integrity to give a good damn what really happened to Amanda Blackburn. Likewise, they likely convinced the busy FBI who came to take a look-see, 'proving' they did not need any help and away they went. They've 'got their man' and that's all they care about. Case closed.
Haven't they already proved that Davey Blackburn can pound salt 'til kingdom come for all they care? It certainly appears that way to me. Poor Amanda, she actually doesn't have anyone at all standing up for her or going to bat for her. Accept for the loving arms of Jesus holding her up; she was alone in her life and she is alone in her death. She is alone now. There is NO ONE seeking final justice for her.
Yes, her sister Amber writes heartfelt stories and lovely poetry about the sweet and beautiful Amanda, and what a wonderful sister, Christian, God-fearing woman, wife, mother and homemaker she was; but is anybody actually doing anything for Amanda's benefit towards bringing her husband's participation in her murder to light? With few words; 'they' didn't even give her the place of honor she so deserved or proper condolences at her funeral.
Neither are they seeking true justice for her now either, leaving her poor baby at the hands of her killer who initiated her murder without looking any further. Save for the love and fond remembrances of her sister; yes, Amanda is still alone.
I don't see it happening within the Indy LE Dept either, do you? Does anybody? She was helpless in her death and she is helpless in investigating her murder. NO ONE is looking out for Amanda. No one. ABB
JuJu, I guess we will have to wait for the 911 call to see how all of that really played out. How convenient Davey made that call AFTER his neighbor went inside. That worked out well for him.
ABB, I sure hope you are wrong. I hold on to hope that they are investigating him. If Davey was involved in the orchestration, something will eventually come out. I am curious how the relationship is with AB family. He was so ready to move on to the best that was to come, I would think moving away from relationship with family would go along with that. If that is the case, maybe they are becoming suspicious of him. They always have the option of hiring their own PI. I just can't believe tho that LE isn't sniffing into Davey and his actions.
Also, what is the deal with Alonzo Bull? Why is he not arrested? He was obviously involved? I am totally asking this because I guess I just don't understand. He took all the phone calls. And was it established that the mystery number was a burner phone? has that been established? I want to go back and refresh myself on the above specifics.
Bingo, when I suggested perhaps the perps saw Davey leave that morning without stopping to lock the door, Rosy said that the perps wouldn't have had a clear line of sight to the Blackburn home, and everyone enthusiastically agreed with her and insisted the perps couldn't have seen him until he was driving by the house they were in. But you're saying Davey could see when his neighbor went inside (and knew she had already dialed 911)? Can't have it both ways, right?
Well JuJu, I for one did not enthusiastically agree with Rose or anyone else that the perps wouldn't have a clear line of sight to the Blackburn home. I don't have x-ray eyes and I've never walked a mile in their shoes or anyone else's, have you?
It was quite obvious to me that they were waiting for Davey to leave; no matter if one might have been hiding behind the bushes to watch, or one might have been waiting for a call advising 'someone' when Davey left, or if one might have been watching from inside the home they were waiting in, or if they watched for his car to leave. Either way, they were waiting for Davey to leave. Got it now? Waiting. A good LOOONG wait I might add.
What's your deal anyhow, always looking to find an 'out' for Davey? There isn't one. Git over it. It is YOU who has a fixation for seeking his innocence and pity and excuses for him that aren't there. You can't even accept it that Davey had already given every indication of hatred, violence and degradation of Amanda in his so-called sermons long before Amanda was violently murdered.
Just like you can't accept it that on the very first day, EMT's said THEY called for LE after finding Amanda in her dying condition, obviously having been shot and brutalized, and it was after their call to LE that LE came to the Blackburn home, at which time Amanda was being taken away. I don't save posts or videos but I can certainly remember this.
To be critical of others, you just LUV to throw in crap that doesn't do a damned thing to white-wash Davey's actions, nor does it help in Amanda's investigation or our views of Davey's guilt based on his OWN words and actions. Why? Why do you even care? Your welcome to your opinions, but your 'caring' certainly isn't for Amanda. ABB
What are you talking about ABB? I know the EMTs called for the police. Unlike you, I'm not too lazy to read the important documents in this case.
You don't even know what's going on most of the time. Nothing you say can be taken seriously, whether it's all your ridiculous (and quite revealing) talk about "homos," "BJs" and anal sex or the stuff you just plain make up ... like saying the thugs went to the ATM next to Davey's gym. That's "bullshyt." There's a Chase bank and another Chase ATM location within spitting distance of Davey's gym, but the first ATM they went to is 8.6 miles from the gym, and the second is 12 miles from the gym ... and both in the opposite direction from the house than where the gym is located. Betcha didn't know that, eh? That's because you can't be bothered to read articles or documents, and you actually think the comments here are the most reliable source of info.
If you can't deal with people having different opinions than you, that's your problem, not anyone else's. I do my best to ignore you, so just do us both a favor and stop responding to my comments. Find something else to fixate on besides me. K? Thanks.
I'm sure you'll have to have the last word as always, so go ahead with your venom-spewing.
JuJu, he was sitting OUTSIDE in the driveway two houses down. Of course he saw the neighbor come home.
If you're so sure, Bingo, then look at Google Earth and Streetview and tell me with certainty what can be seen from each house?
What part of the Blackburn home can be seen from inside the neighbor's house (through the windows)? What can be seen from the neighbor's front door? And from the neighbor's driveway?
Conversely, what of the neighbor's home can be seen by someone inside the Blackburn home and by someone standing at their front door? What part of the neighbor's house can be seen by someone parked on the left side of the Blackburn driveway? How about the right side?
Juju-
I think I understand where you're coming from. I think you are not trying to defend Davey, or "give him an out", but you're trying to be objective. And being objective is really the right thing to do.
I will get on google maps and look but from what I remember the driveways are parallel to one another and I think it would be hard to not notice a car pulling into the driveway two doors down. And JuJu, I know we keep having the same argument but there is nothing logical about a bunch of guys sitting in a house for an hour waiting for a crime of opportunity. I think the police know this too.
Thank you for understanding where I'm coming from, Rella :)
Bingo @ 8:31,
I think DB is being careful with his tweets because of the obvious deception and leakage in his sermon "Bring Me The Ephod" from 1/31. He knows he has to try a lot harder to sound the part of a grieving husband.
My apologies JuJu. Nope, not spewing venom, neither do I care about having the last word. You are correct, I do not sit here and look up videos and documents and everything else that gets posted. I read only Peter's articles and those recaps and quotes that are posted here, and only those videos that I am able to pull up without a lot of hassle. No, I don't give them a lot of my time.
You are further correct, I am too lazy to work at it for hours and hours; nor do I have the time, or care, when I can clearly see just with the use of common sense and statement analysis that Davey Blackburn orchestrated his wife's murder, whether you agree or not. I have other things of interest to do rather than dwell on Davey Blackburn 24/7.
Besides all THAT, I have been reading and studying statement analysis here off and on for more than seven years and although I do not claim to know 'everything', I DO retain what I read and learn.
We don't have to make it up as we go, or endlessly banter about his guilt, or prove it; Davey Blackburn has made many comments and videos that lead directly to his guilt in several areas both prior too and since Amanda's murder, whether you see it or not.
But again, I apologize that you don't like me and don't care for my posts. I can live with that. That's your prerogative. Stop reading my posts. Frankly, I don't appreciate the way you constantly berate and give Bingo, whose opinions I respect, a hard time either. So there you have it, tit for tat. My apologies. Moving on..... ABB
Ashley Barrett 2/10
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBng_g9IETVYpjX6VnPIqN2GbYeDm9e5IyORvk0/
"3 months, it's crazy how ridiculously fast and painfully slow time can go all at once. Weston sure has grown. His cute little (big!) belly now pokes out of his 18 months clothes. His favorite words are Daddy, Mommy, Puppy, Cheese, and Bath! He's obsessed with "Cwackers" and all things carbs (he must have gotten that from you!) and he can throw and kick a ball like you wouldn't believe! He loves to sing and clap now, and is a big time lover of the spotlight (that we know he didn't get from you, must be from Dad 😉) so many moments and memories that you should be here for, and I have to remind myself often of the greater joy that you are experiencing right now.
You would be so proud of all of the people that you held closest to your heart. They are shining Jesus so well, and it's just been so inspiring to see! If there was a space to fill all of the people that you have impacted and that will one day join you in paradise, a stadium wouldn't be big enough. So, so, so many people say "if I could just be like Amanda..." You're the real deal my friend, and an example to countless people. A friend of mine who's only met you once used the word "bright" to describe you. I can't think of anything better, as your light was the first thing anyone noticed when they met you. I could talk about you for days, and only ever say wonderful things.
We love you. We miss you. We're so thankful for all that you mean to us. Each and every day that passes, we count it one less day away from you. Can't wait to see you again sweet friend."
Bad Juju said...
at 12:50 PM
... when I suggested perhaps the perps saw Davey leave that morning without stopping to lock the door, Rosy said that the perps wouldn't have had a clear line of sight to the Blackburn home, and everyone enthusiastically agreed with her and insisted the perps couldn't have seen him until he was driving by the house they were in. But you're saying Davey could see when his neighbor went inside (and knew she had already dialed 911)? Can't have it both ways, right?
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Juju, I said January 20, 2016 at 6:41 PM that they may have seen him drive past the neighbor's house which they had invaded. I was responding to your post that day at 5:41 PM "they saw an opportunity to easily steal more stuff when Davey left without locking the door.
My objection to your view there was/is that it's too visually based. Judging from the map and now that I've seen it Google, they would not have been able to SEE him NOT LOCKING the door. In any case, I suggested, the lock may have been an electronic type (or other) that doesn't need a key turned from the outside to secure it.
So I said, "We cannot assume they saw him leave the house. Taking stock of the neighborhood map provided (above) today, lot 31 does not have sight lines onto the front of lot 28
http://www.woodsofnorthkessler.org/map.php
Now let's add one factor, time of sunrise - 7:23 AM.
OK, forget the door and the lock. They could have seen his car lights.
If they had a lookout posted upstairs looking out the east window (and no leaves on the trees) they may have seen DB leave his driveway. Or possibly could see this from the rear ground level addition. Or else from the front of the house or from their own parked vehicle they saw his vehicle drive past the house they were in, lot 31, 2830 Sunnyfield.
Question remains open, were they instructed to wait for him to drive away (and if so, told the door would be unlocked)?
As for could DB see/hear/or KNOW when the neighbor arrived home, I'm not so sure of the angle for vision if DB was sitting in his car in his driveway chatting on the phone. I think JuJu is correct, no direct line of sight. Even if DB backed into his driveway, and with the trees and shrubs (leafy on Google street map) bare, how much could he see?
However, if he knew the neighbor's schedule, hearing the sound of her vehicle would clue him that she was arriving home. Maybe her car's headlights remain on in daylight.
Agree, he would not know when she might call 911.
A police run crime scene reconstruction/walk through would be in order. Or do those happen only in movies and other countries?
Street view:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8265765,-86.207579,3a,90y,347.43h,78.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjCffasuNy1oocXsmcB7BtQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
DB posts a video of Amanda's dad reading her personal journal entries aloud in church. Nice way to respect her privacy. Oh, yes, this is why I don't keep a journal.
https://vimeo.com/154870286
Why do they use phrases like "turn it upside down"? Amanda's dad also said "blow it up" back in November. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I could see phrases like "spark a light" "fill with love", but upside down and blow up sound DEstructive, not constructive.
Rosy, I didn't mean to sound critical of your post about the line-of-sight issue, I was trying to make a point (probably badly) that people will agree with anything they think makes Davey look more guilty, even if those things contradict each other ... kinda like confirmation bias.
I tend to agree that the perps, while inside the neighbor's house, would likely not see Davey walking out the door unless they were looking out the side window. But, I still believe the dark SUV is significant, and I think it's possible that someone came to pick up the TVs they stole, so one of them could have been outside where they could see the Blackburn home a little better. That's the problem ... there are so many unknowns, but many people have decided they know exactly how everything happened.
And, like you said, while it's possible Davey could see the neighbor pull in her driveway while he was on the phone in his car, after looking at Streetview from all possible angles, I really don't think he could see her enter the house. So the idea that he saw her walk in and knew exactly when she called 911 doesn't hold water, imo. When challenged on this and similar issues, the typical response seems to be, "Duh, of course it happened how I say it happened because Davey is obviously guilty." Critical thinking not welcome.
In the Streetview photos there is a van in the driveway of the home where the lady heard gunshots, and it also obstucts the view. I don't know when the Streetview photos were taken, of course, or if the person who lives there still has that van. Again, unknowns.
I don't understand the unwillingness to just consider that not everything points directly to Davey's guilt. The narrative presented by the majority here includes a whole lotta assumptions that might be totally wrong.
I can't believe that anyone would actually question another car being seen or heard on any street, particularly on a quiet cul-de-sac street with limited traffic flow such as the one the Blackburns lived on. This was not a deserted forest they lived in, and even if it were, headlights would still be seen and engines heard.
Nothing obstructs the lighted view when headlights are approaching an area or leaving an area; not leafy trees or shrubs, not noise barriers, not nothing. Lights shine on driveways, thru tree leaves and leafy shrubberies, under and above open areas. Headlights do not confine themselves behind tree trunks nor are they shielded by a larger automobile parked nearby or on an adjacent driveway.
Woods, trees, shrubs or not; similarly, automobile motors and engines are heard starting, leaving, driving onto, and in and out of and on a quiet street and down the street on a cul-de-sac that has little traffic, and are observed or heard, in daylight OR darkness, particularly when one is listening/looking for and expecting another.
It is not a big leap to 'assume' that common sense is common sense. Davey Blackburn was SEEN leaving his home AND STREET at 6:41 that morning, not only by neighbors but also by the thugs who were waiting to accost Amanda with an open door invitation; likewise he HEARD and SAW his robbed neighbor returning and made his infamous call to 911 shortly thereafter, whether she had already called them or not. This is just plain common sense, no degree in criminal justice needed. ABB
Blogger Bad Juju said 9:55am...(snipped for space)
"I was trying to make a point (probably badly) that people will agree with anything they think makes Davey look more guilty, even if those things contradict each other ... kinda like confirmation bias."
-Could you stop lumping "people" together and name names? I think most people posting here are open to discussion and are very open minded. Who are ALL these people and where are they?
BadJuju - "But, I still believe the dark SUV is significant, and I think it's possible that someone came to pick up the TVs they stole, so one of them could have been outside where they could see the Blackburn home a little better. That's the problem ... there are so many unknowns, but many people have decided they know exactly how everything happened."
Including yourself. It's okay for you to project and list out your "what if's" but if anyone else does it, they are simply reaching and stretching for conclusions and because their conclusion indicates guilt on Davey's end, you don't like it. Hypocritical in almost every single post.
BadJuju said - "When challenged on this and similar issues, the typical response seems to be, "Duh, of course it happened how I say it happened because Davey is obviously guilty." Critical thinking not welcome."
That is not a typical response and in that you stated it is a typical response, I would expect you could point to these "typical" posts throughout all the articles Peter has posted. I'll be waiting and would bet the farm you'd be lucky to come up with one "typical" response that begins with, "Duhhhh".
I think you have greatly exaggerated this forum and have not only insulted the posters here, but Peter as well. If this forum is that bias and full of stupid responses as you quoted with the "duh" remark and soooo many closed minds, one would have to wonder just exactly what are you doing here?
I prefer the objective discussion, analysis, hypotheticals, information, and critical thinking posts to the subjective, solely venomously judgemental, predetermined, scandalmongering, and sensationalistic posts. Fortunately there are enough of the former to make tolerable the later.
Thank you Kate @10:20. Totally agreed. You expressed my own similar thoughts much better than I ever could have.
Snap @11:03, I ask because you have verbally attacked me before without just cause; however, not meaning to stir up anything with you, but was wondering if you were making reference to me in your highly descriptive, and I quote: "subjective, solely venomously judgmental, predetermined, scandal mongering and sensationalist posts...."? (You don't have to read them, you know).
Fine; however, I wish to point out to you that I have not used one subjective analysis remark here that was not found either in any number of statement analysis articles that have been posted by Peter over the years at one time or another; OR otherwise found in the Holy Word of God other than an occasional raunchy word here and there, with the exception of one word that I use infrequently which describes a sexually deviate segment of our population;
That one is my own (common usage) slang word, which, I explained why I use such an offensive word. THAT is because the act being performed IS queer, filthy and offensive, furthermore this act is against the Word of God (I didn't write The Book, He did, which I chose to believe); this is a free country we live in and I chose to use my God given freedom of speech rights, just as you do. Sorry if you don't like it. This is the real world, may I suggest you don your big girl panties and get used to it? It's not pretty. ABB
Kate, I was here long before many of the people currently commenting on this thread. No need to ask me what I'm doing here.
How is anything I've said insulting to Peter? I agree with his SA conclusion in this case. I cannot, however, get on board with the orchestration theory (from Peter's group of investigators) for a number of specific reasons, several of which I've discussed here (well, I've attempted to discuss). There are too many important questions I need answered.
And of course I didn't mean any of the comments here literally start with "duh," but that's often the sentiment. Have you been keeping up? There's very little what-iffing going on in this echo chamber.
You're being a bit hypocritical yourself on the subject of insults. You probably don't realize what all you've said to me, because I posted anonymously for so long. No need to dredge it up ... I think you already know you're not always the most warm and fuzzy person. (And if you want to get indignant about insults, look no further than "she who hurls insults at everybody" -- even people who are kind and polite to her -- and has insulted me, unprovoked, more times than I can count.)
If you can't see the close-mindedness, I don't know what to tell you. (And aren't you the one who makes the propaganda videos??) The fact is most people still commenting here (not all, but most) refuse to consider that their many assumptions about this case could be wrong. (Why would I name names ... everyone here can clearly read, right?) It's not an insult, it's just the way it is.
But thanks, anyway, for the lecture :)
Bad Juju-
You're right. There is no need to name names, because those of us here who do try to be objective and open minded about the case know exactly who and what you're talking about. I don't see that you have insulted anyone, and I don't think Peter would be insulted by someone asking more questions, and trying to think outside the box.
"She who hurls insults at everybody"......thank you, that gave me a good laugh!!
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/overwhelmed-week-2-overcoming-the-fear-of-the-future/
Here it is, the latest sermon. Apparently DB still has grand plans for Resonate and wants to lead a historical revival in Indianapolis, but no money to make it happen. There are a number of pregnancy comments and inappropriate remarks (as usual).
1:15 (Talking about Psalm 77:4)
How many people in here have ever gone through something where you feel so overwhelmed that you’ve lost sleep over it. Maybe you’re so uncertain of the future that you’ve lost sleep. You’re not sure what tomorrow holds, so you try to go to bed at night and you can’t sleep. That’s what they guy’s saying right here, he’s saying I’m losing sleep and it says…1:29 (frowning) “I’ve thought about the former days, the years of long ago. I remembered my songs in the night and my heart meditated, and my spirit asked will the Lord reject forever?’ Will he again show his favor?”…to us. See sometimes it’s really easy to get in a situation where you feel overwhelmed and, to think that, your best days are behind you, but I’m telling you right now that God’s word promises and you’re gonna see a turn here in this passage in just a second but your days, your best days are not behind you. Your best days are yet to come.
Inappropriate 5:48 (Talking about Weston using sign language)
“If he wants milk, he does this (opens and closes hand) right here, milk, that’s milk. It’s really funny, the (begins miming milking a cow) milk, right, that’s milk. It’s not this, (mimes squeezing an imaginary breast) okay, it’s this (milking cow gesture). Some of you wonder why we don’t let your kids into church. Case in point.
6:05 (Talking about Weston always waiting for him)
“…So I can get why Weston would think that his dad might forget him but I wish I could communicate to him, I’m not gonna forget you buddy. I’m not gonna forget you. You are number one priority to me. I might leave for a little bit, I might be absent for a little bit, but I’m always going to come back. I’m not going to forget you.”
Inappropriate 14:15
You ever seen, um, the movie Troy, right, with Brad Pitt? STUD! Man Crush Monday on Sunday. I love Brad Pitt. Just a side note, okay?
15:40
Jesse, David’s dad goes “Hey, you know what. David, why don’t you go down and deliver to your brothers some cheese and bread?” He turns David into a cheese pizza delivery boy.
17:00 (talking about Goliath)
…this guy who has been bred to be a champion, from the time that he popped out of his mom weighing sixteen pounds, three ounces, right! Poor mom!
18:00
Hey, listen to me. The world’s gonna try to tell you teenagers that you can’t do anything great for God because of your age. The world’s gonna try to tell you that you are the future of this country, you are the future of this church. But, I’m here to tell you that right now you’re not the future of it, you’re the present of it.
19:45
Sometimes, sometimes you just need to embolden yourself in the Lord, like we talked about last week, by trash talking the enemy.
2/7 Sermon Part two:
21:40
You know God’s gonna show up in your circumstance. Listen, because he’s always showed up, in your circumstances. Now, this is where some people are like, well, ya I don’t know, Davey, I mean, I look back at my past and I kinda see where, like, man God wasn’t there. Hey listen, if God wasn’t there, (clears throat) he wasn’t the one that moved. (long pause) May, maybe you moved, and you separated yourself, but even in those moments…I bet if you really thought about it, God did something, to draw you back, and to show up in your circumstance.
23:15
Because right now, we are in a situation, as a church, and some of you, kind of come in on the outside looking in, some of you are, are really a part of this, but we, we are in a situation which seems like the greatest challenge that we have ever faced as a church. Although it probably won’t be our greatest challenge… (long pause, nods)
24:30
David ... put one (stone) in a sling and he does this little like, sling shot thing and throws it at Goliath and the first stone nails Goliath right here in the head (points to lower forehead centered just above eyebrows), knocks him over. David takes Goliath’s sword, and chops Goliath’s head off.
31:30 So, we just said ‘Hey Lord, we’re gonna walk through every door that you call us, that, that, that you open up for us, and you better shut down doors that you, we’re not supposed to go into. So we did. We got a realtor, a friend of the family, and we started looking for houses. We knew that we needed to establish roots, so we decided to buy a house. We looked for houses, and we had this day lined up where we were gonna go look for houses and the very first house that we walked into was our Sunnyfield Court house, the one that is still my house. And Amanda looked around, and she goes “This is the house.” Now, I’m really practical and I’m like (shakes head no) “Babe, come on. Investment opportunities, maybe a fixer-upper, like, we gotta look at everything before we actually decide.” She goes “No, Davey, this is the house.” I said, “OK, we’re gonna keep lookin. We’re gonna go, look.” And so we looked for about twenty-five, thirty more houses, and we came back to that house, and she goes “I told you. I’m always right.” She was, always right…
Sermon part three:
32:00
"And so, we decide to put an offer on this house, and I need you to hear me on this. We decided to say “Hey, Lord, if you want us in this house, it’s going to have to be a supernatural thing, so we’re gonna put an offer on this house that is so low they’ll probably laugh us off the table, but if you want us to have the house, that’s the price.” So we did, and guess what they laughed us off the table. They said “We’re not, we’re not even gonna entertain that. We’ve, we’ve refused four offers higher than that. You better come back with a better offer.
So we went back, we prayed about it, and we just felt like God said “Stick to the price.” Now listen to me, listen to me. Can I talk to you like a family for a second? Had we in that moment decided to manipulate the price because we wanted that house so bad, do you know how much guilt I would be living with right now? I understand sometimes you get in overwhelming circumstances, it’s really easy to try to scheme your way and manipulate your way, but you need to understand that faith is living without scheming. Trust God that he’s gonna open the door, and then walk through the open door. So we prayed about it, we slept on it, we went back to our realtor, we said “Same price.” He said “Ss, same price? You’re crazy, right?” Said “Same price.” “All right.” He went and put the same price in, and she accepted. We got the house.
38:20
Reads Amanda’s journal entries, attempts fake crying. Mocks her misspelling.
41:00
A “board member” offered to pay Derek Barrett’s salary for a year.
48:38 (talking about growth of resonate)
…More people started believing this little crazy punk kid saying “Hey, we’re gonna reach the city, we’re gonna reach the city.” And I’m really glad they did. And we got to this point ... We said “Man, we got about 40 to 50 really solid people who believe in the vision, and we didn’t really do any kind of launch… Um, maybe we should actually, like launch as a church We felt, like we were like, like a pregnant church, but we hadn’t given birth to anything, you know what I’m saying? So we were swelling and swelling, but we were like, man we need to do something so we decided to make this really big faith move, and with forty to fifty people move into a 900 seat auditorium which all the experts say “Don’t do.”
50:00
Talks about how they thought they would need $150,000 to launch into the bigger auditorium and how people started stepping forward to give. One person gave $50,000. Another gave $35,000.
2/7 sermon part 4:
55:00 (begging for money for Gauntlet scholarships and outing prior donation recipient)
And we have really generous people here that would step up and give a scholarship for you to go. Don’t we. Don’t we! Any day, don’t we have really generous people that would step up and say “I’ll pay for someone to go.” OK, if you just clapped, stop by guest services, write a check. Ah, you think I’m lying…. Where’s Harry? You don’t know this but Amanda convinced me to pay your way last, last year. She said “I want (points at Harry) to make sure Harry can go to the gauntlet. Do we have it?” I said “No. We don’t have it.” She said “Let’s write it anyways.” OK? You should do that today.
1:01:30 (reviewing salvation numbers from past year)
Here’s what has been emboldening me to, to, um, to declare the phrase nothingiswasted because since Amanda’s death, this is how many people have met (points to overhead screen) Jesus. That is only in a service here at Resonate. That is not counting people who were watching her celebration service online, the thousands of people that were tuning in, and, the hundreds of stories that we’re receiving from facebook and stuff. Listen, Nothing Is Wasted, and we’re facing… Listen to me. We’re facing Goliath, but God has been faithful.
1:04 Wants an office and space for students to meet.
1:06 Talking to the "Mayor" about serving worst areas of city.
1:08
I want you to listen to me very carefully. I’m speaking to you right now as a pastor, as a friend, someone who loves you very much. There are many people who have come into these doors, and your heart is “Hey, I’m here to support you. I’m here to support what’s going on.” Can I tell you something? And I want you to hear me, I want you to hear me. We don’t need your support. We don’t need your support. ‘Cause you know what support does? Support says “Oh, I’m here for a season, and then when everything looks like it’s OK, I’m backing out.” We don’t need your support. Listen to me. We need your buy in. We need you to buy in to this vision because listen to me.
Hell is too hot, eternity is too long, this city is too decrepit. We need warriors who are willing to say “Today! I’m buying in today! What do I need to do? I need to go to grow plan? I need to start tithing. I need to start giving to this. What do I need to do? I’m buying in today!” And if you’re not, listen, if you’re not gonna buy in, if you’re not gonna buy in, don’t waste my time. OK, don’t waste my time. Davey, that sounds harsh. Ya know what, uh, huh, eh… This life is way too short. It’s way too short. It’s way too short. Let’s go. Let’s reach a city. Let’s make this year be the year that history books write about because of the revival that breaks out, out of this auditorium, because of this group of people. Let’s go.
BadJuJu, nice attempt to deflect and skirt the points I made. I'd love for you to point out the posts where I treated you rudely, even if you were posting under anonymous. I'll be waiting for that as well, but I'm sure you will respond with another way to deflect what you are stating as fact because you will not find a post where I was rude or name calling you and that is a fact. I've been very respectful for the most part and have endured the BS jabs and the likes of you bringing up my youtube channel as if I should be embarrassed? Lol, if you consider my videos/exposure on Davey Blackburn as propaganda, so be it, they are there to stay for Weston to see the truth when he is old enough. And you call yourself a "critical thinker" lol.
You won't find the posts where I treat you rudely BJJ, but it sure goes to your lack of character that you would lie like that, so please do not address me in the future and I will do the same for your lying, twisted posts.
Thank you, Bearcat, for doing all that work transcribing.
He talks abut losing sleep a lot. Interesting how how talks about buying the house after our recent discussions here about it.
He wants warriors who will buy in, tithe, give, buy in, buy in buy in, reach a city.
I hope they don't take the teens to the worst areas of the city.
His house story sounds like he wants to make it crystal clear that Amanda chose that house and was insistent that they buy it. He didn't choose the house and in fact worked hard to buy something else. It wasn't what he wanted.
Further, God led them to it by saying stick to the price. CD would have felt guilty if they had "manipulated the price" (raised the offer). God must have wanted them in the house, it was a supernatural thing. God wanted them to have the house, so they got it for a laughable price.
Therefore, CD seems to be implying, if it was in a crime-ridden area and not safe, it's on Amanda and God. Not CD.
Kate, I would love to view your youtube channel. It sounds very interesting and a good thing you are doing that could benefit little Weston later in his life. How is it listed and how can I link into it? Thank you for sharing!
Bobcat, I too wish to thank you for transcribing all those quotes from Davey's sermons, verbatim. You're a gem, this is not an easy job to do.
I finally skimmed through it this morning, it isn't easy for me to read his so-called sermons and self-serving c'rap. The purest of crap. He's as looney as a tic. He drives people away in his begging for money, doesn't 'need' their support, then lures them right back in to tithe, buy in, buy in, give, give. Clever, 'eh?
He never gets around to leading people to repentance at the foot of the cross, or to the nail scarred hands of our precious savior as his hung his head and died on the cross for our sins and the shame of this world, pleading for God to forgive us; "we know not what we do" as the solders thrust a sword into his side. I could never sit through one of his sermons that never lead back to Jesus, the precious one I'm looking for. He never gets around to helping the widow, the homeless and the fatherless and orphaned or feeding the poor. Just himself, it's always him.
He DOES cleverly find a way to lay blame on Amanda and God that he bought the house they bought. He also left out a lot of detail as to how they got the house, also how he was able to obtain a mortgage on the house. Lord only knows the truth, BottleCap. But I'll guarantee you this, in my experience as a Broker for 35 years, there's a LOT more to the story than he's telling. God's will?
Everything we do of our own volition is OUR will; we can only trust and believe that Jesus is with us and will never forsake us; having done all we can to follow HIS will, and no other; we stand. But we DO make our own decisions of our own free will. We make huge mistakes and we fail, but we get up out of the dirt we got ourselves into and ask him to dust us off; we go on, back to the foot of the cross pleading for mercy and forgiveness.
WHERE is he leading these people? Certainly not to the foot of the cross that leads to our journey home, or to the nail scared hand that will take their hand and lead them on. I cannot imagine anyone trying to follow his psycho babble. ABB
Thank you so much for transcribing. I only read through briefly but a few things stood out. Ab and God are responsible for choosing that specific house. He'd feel so guilty if they had made higher offer to get house- where's his guilt over leaving door unlocked. And then saying trust that God is going to open the door and walk through the door too. And then talking about resonate church growth like being pregnant. He sure does talk about pregnancy a lot. He's not holding back any punches, he needs money NOW!
Thanks BobCat for transcribing. His sermon was def a lot more tame this week. I watched just about 5 minutes of it but was interrupted. He seemed less hyper and agitated this week. I will be excited to hear your SA on it. Bottlecap,that was interesting about it being Amanda and God who made him buy the house. What was that about?
Kate, are you the one who did the two videos on the Intriguing Hubby? I was so excited about the 3rd one. I hope to see it soon!!!
ABB, I agree that he isn't pointing people to Christ. It is all about growth and being grandiose? He wants to build a kingdom. It goes back to his narcissism. He can't just preach and love. He has to win, be the best, be big! That is how it seems to me at least.
I keep planning to come back to the idea that Davey is writing a book, but I found the idea so preposterous that it slips by and I forget about it. WRITING A BOOK? Someone dubbed it "Amanda's Story?" Who says? Who/Where did this idea come from?
ABOUT WHAT? Big revival, saving the world through Amanda's murder? Does he have a ghost writer, an editor, a publicist, an advance fee already paid to him? Has a date been set for its' publication?
I just can't believe this, that's all. Somebody help me out here; this fool can't even put a cohesive and sane sentence together and HE'S WRITING A BOOK? ABB
Bingo3,
I'm no expert on SA. There are some things that stick out to me.
"Hey listen, if God wasn’t there, (clears throat) he wasn’t the one that moved. (long pause) May, maybe you moved, and you separated yourself, but even in those moments…I bet if you really thought about it, God did something, to draw you back, and to show up in your circumstance."
This sounds like DB is admitting he separated himself from God during his part related to Amanda's death, but God drew him back.
"So we were swelling and swelling, but we were like, man we need to do something so we decided to make this really big faith move, and with forty to fifty people move into a 900 seat auditorium which all the experts say “Don’t do.”
This is ridiculous. Like Peter called it months ago, DB has dangerous delusions of grandeur. When I hear of his grand plans for expansion, I fear for anyone associated with him. Because when his plans fail, and they will fail grandly, he will destroy as much as possible on his way down - like he destroyed the game of risk.
One other thought for analysis. DB mentions doors opening and closing a lot, including doors that you're not supposed to open. Isn't this also related to sexual abuse?
Thanks ABB and Bingo, I have the third video ready to go, I was (hopefully) waiting on word from LE and thinking we'd have news by now, but it's not looking that way.
I've done two videos on Davey, you can see them here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S64tyQ7_E7M and part 2 is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3OJRzmtijc
Even Peter posted on the vid, so have to wonder how much "propaganda" it really is, lol.
Kate, you can post 3 and maybe by 4, we will have more word from LE. With DB back to preaching, you should have plenty to work with!! There is a lot of VERY scary preaching going on with this guy past and present. You expose that and you have a TON of views on your videos. No matter his involvement in this crime, he is (in my opinion) very off base in what he chooses to scream at people. Thanks for you hard work!
Kate PLEASE post your third video link here once it's up - and keep them coming - they are amazing. I also really appreciate the time it has taken for you to put these first two together. ABB wrote upthread that nobody is looking out for Amanda - but you are for sure. By shining a light onto Davey and exposing his treatment of Amanda before the murder along with his words and actions before and since, it gives a picture that should be impossible to ignore.
I think LE is taking notice.
I'd like to think the rest of us, by posting here, are also looking out for Amanda (perhaps with the exception of Bad Juju who is claiming to only be objective but is clearly looking out for Davey). There's a difference between being objective and in having ones head in the sand saying "this isn't happening". . .
It should be crystal clear to LE, especially with their access to information we do not have, that all is not above board with Davey's behavior and actions and words that morning.
On another topic, one of Amanda's journal entries (read by Davey in one of the very early interviews) said, as she was talking to God, that "you are the author of this story". THIS STORY. I've mentioned this in posts before. We've spoken of Davey possibly writing a book and have jokingly said it will be called "Amanda's Story".
Would it be a realistic for a housewife who *didn't* know that she was going to be brutally murdered in her own home and then having the "event" used as an attempt to create an awakening in a church, such as had never been seen before (Davey's hope) - would she write in her journal describing her life as "a story"?
Maybe reaching here, but I'm not actually sure if she wrote that entry - or some of the others.
And why is her family being so quiet - is it for fear of being denied access to Weston if they rock the boat?
we are in a situation which seems like the greatest challenge that we have ever faced as a church. Although it probably won’t be our greatest challenge…
Wonder if this involves the IRS? Was there any other context to this section?
mom2many,
That was his lead in to telling the entire story of Resonate and how money had been provided at times in the past that they'd really needed it. Each time they needed it, the right amount had been given to them.
Resonate is broke. Amanda's death didn't pay out like DB expected. Don't waste CD's time if you're not gonna write him a check.
Kate, thank you SOOo much for posting the youtube videos. Can hardly wait to watch them. Have been nursing my backache today, will try to get back to sitting here for a while this evening or first thing in the am). I am so glad someone is getting the real info out there, I just hope and pray it leads to doing some good in the cause for real justice for Amanda. Wherever these videos land up, you've got my vote! Along with Bingo and others; THANK YOU for taking your time and for going to the expense to do this hard work. ABB
Flightful, very, very good post!! That is how I feel! I feel like someone needs to stand up for Amanda. It has just died down so much. Another video by Kate would have people talking again. I would like to see more people aware of his bizarre sermons and behavior. It is my opinion that he is a dangerous person who is not preaching truth. There are vulnerable people at his church who may be harmed in some way. I just pray it is not someone young. I have just seen it happen too many times.
Flightfulbird, you are correct; Kate is doing all she can to expose Davey in his treatment and suspicions in Amanda's brutal murder. Thank God, someone DOES care what happened to Amanda that has been able to take steps to expose him. I just hope you are right, that LE is taking notice, or will.
I agree too, that the rest of us have been doing our best to look out for Amanda, each in our own way, other than the few stragglers along the way, including JuJu; by raising our suspicions of Davey's actions and words and continually expressing them.
I can't come up with who it was right now, but one of our posters even sent emails (twice) to the IndyMPD which were outright rejected and flatly refused. That was a huge disappointment, which was another reason I have been maintaining for months that local LE isn't doing squat to investigate Davey Blackburn and don't care, 'they've got their man.' Maybe someone in their department with some integrity will start to take notice soon and realize the ones they have arrested aren't the ONLY ones involved in orchestrating Amanda's murder. I sure hope so.
As to Amanda's journal entries that Davey reads from, I have never believed they were written by Amanda, certainly not without some modifications made by Davey. After all, why would he read anything that she supposedly wrote other than worshipful things that made him into one of the loving disciples resurrected from the last supper, gloating in his God-power even above Moses and Jesus?
Now, her parents are a big mystery to me. I still believe they are genteel hand-wringing, whining ever-so-sweetly, people who hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil, as if in a daze. Yes, it has occurred to me too that they may be afraid to raise any ruckus with Davey for fear of not being able to see little Weston and this could be why they have said nothing and have not hired a PI to investigate him; on the other hand, they are failing to realize that they are leaving their precious little grandson, their OWN daughter's baby, in very dangerous hands. Not only that, he is right now warping that child's mental outlook and intellect for the rest of his little life. Will they EVER wake up? Who can say. ABB
I'm going back a few posts but first I'd just like to say that it's very hard to debate an issue on a blog. We are all trying to express our opinions. We don't all agree on the same thing but we have to either take it or leave it. I have an open mind in this case. I have formed my opinion on DB given the facts that we know. I feel he's involved. But I am willing to listen to a person who feels he's innocent or is just trying to look at everything objectively like juju. By doing so it makes me think more about my opinion. Sometimes I'll realize that something I thought happened really didn't or couldn't. That being said I don't think it's fair for anyone to come back at someone else and tell them they can't feel the way they do just because it differs from their opinion. I hope we can all just work together in this and agree to disagree. I really like listening to others views whether I agree or not. NOW, I was thinking about the moment DB came home to find AB. I always try to picture that moment. IF he is innocent this is my vision of what would happen, he walks in the house. He sees AB on the floor. I agree that his first impression would be to go to her thinking she had taken a spill or passed out. This is where I'm confused. He would be right next to her(also seeing her mostly naked with her underwear next to her). The first thing he'd do is try to rouse her. He'd have to move her around, touch her etc. At this point he'd be scared, she's passed out. I don't know if she was found face up or down but wouldn't he have turned her over or lifted her head? How in the world did he not notice she'd been shot At this point? How? People say there would have been blood everywhere but we don't know that. Although the shooter said he watched her bleed. This is my sticking point. How did he not know this wasn't a mere fall or passing out? I can't believe it. If someone could explain that I'd appreciate it.
Bingo; OMG, I couldn't agree with you more that Davey Blackburn is dangerously warping vulnerable minds every time he opens his mouth. Everyone who goes to church is there looking to find a savior, someone they can reach out too and a comforting message they can hold onto. If they were not sincere, they wouldn't bother to get up and go to church at all on Sunday morning, when there are so many other things they could be doing with their time; if nothing else, sleeping in.
They are ALL vulnerable people, searching. As someone else said above, all Davey wants is the MONEY. If you aren't going to write a check, don't bother him. How easily they are deceived and misled, until eventually they either give up searching, some getting disgusted and turning against God entirely, with some falling into the trap with him, all damning their own soul. Some of these church goers are poor and can't write him a check. How deflated they must feel. Some couples have their finances so tightly wound that there is no way they could start paying tithes, adding on another bill to pay. And then there are the young ones; Oh yes, they ARE being dangerously misled and badly influenced.
It has become SOO bad with the many charlatans and money grabbers selling salvation and planting their 'seed money' for healing, that we almost have to stay cloistered inside our doors and not venture out to church at all which is not the way we want to go. They/we can stay home and watch the televangelists on tv, but there again, we are right back in the same trap; who/what to believe?
It has almost come down to staying at home, read the Bible and study it for ourselves, and pray to God we aren't faltering along the way. But this is not the way we were meant to live a Christian life. I pity them all who are making the effort and who are being so wrongly influenced by a madman like Davey Blackburn and his ilk. OMG, it is a real tragedy. ABB
Another thank you going out to Bobcat. Just reading what he said I am stunned. He seriously scares me. He seems so defiant and mean in his ramblings. Almost threatening. Some times he preaches like he's talking to a roomful of juvenile delinquents. Other times he just sounds like he's on an ego trip. I felt that by saying it was Amanda who wanted that particular home, he was putting blame on her for her death. Like "hey she picked that house in a bad area not me". So unfair. She's not here to defend herself and now he can use her as an excuse for things going wrong in his life. He did that when she was alive too, I know. His sermons are so messed up too. He goes from telling people about starting his church up, I don't know why he always preaches this, then ends up basically threatening the congregation to pay up or get lost. What a jerk. He's not consistent at all. Are there adults in his audience to just teens because 90% of the time he talks like a fool. His lingo and body movement are so juvenile. Anyway I'm really offended by his whole don't need your support just your money. That was really rude. I wasn't there but if I was, I would have gotten up and walked out. That's not why I go to church. Why is he so hung up on growing his church? He's been there a while now and can't succeed. His sermons are offensive and evil and he's extremely arrogant. I honestly don't understand how people actually can stomach listening to this guy talk. Then to think of how he showed no emotion at the loss of his wife and acted fine so soon afterward, these people are delusional.
In one of Kate's videos, part one, he says in the interview that "we are trying to figure out how to grieve the loss" then shortly after he says "it's devastating to the family". This was an interview I believe soon after her death, after the funeral. Those two statements that are in quotes surprise me. He's talking about the love of his life yet he sounds more like a spokesman for the family than her husband. How to grieve the loss. He can't even say HER loss. It's the loss. Then the other one he says its devastating to THE family. Why didn't he say OUR family. Or deviating to ME and our family? Is that not creepy? He has no emotions. He sounds like he's selling something.
Yes Pak31, this distancing and minimizing of which you speak in your post at 8:14pm has been there in Davey's interviews from the very start of them - he has also talked about guiding Weston through "this bit of chaos" in his life. A bit of chaos is maybe a move or home renovation or transferring to a new school - not the loss of your mother - even though Weston doesn't yet know how it happened - he just knows she is gone. And, all of us know that If you are truly grief-stricken, you don't have to figure out how to grieve - it just happens. The transcripts and watching the videos speak volumes as to his state of mind and lack of emotion or love.
Now some will say that people grieve differently - yet most of the comments I've read following these interviews and news writeups are of the opinion that, based on his demeanor, this guy is just flat-out as cold as ice, hiding something, didn't care, was involved. I would probably still be under the covers of my bed for at least the whole month afterward and probably much longer, if something happened to T. I can promise you that being on national television or even local television, speaking with the media or press in general, would be the farthest thing from my mind. Davey couldn't wait to get his audience, plug his church, gloat over the thousands of people who had seen the streaming "memorial service" for Amanda, sell T shirts, twist his ring and act sad.
His responses to almost EVERY question from interviewers always immediately turned to the church and/or to Jesus - long rambling answers that had nothing to do with the questions - never talking about Amanda as his wife or the love of his life, because she wasn't.
Even if it was a situation where it would help for Davey to plead with the public to come forward if they knew something, it could be done with far less time taken. Seriously, watching the interviews again almost three months later, they are even more revealing than they were at first.
Kate (Feb. 11 @10:09 p.m.), don't ever call me a liar again. You say you've "been respectful for the most part," but you weren't respectful to me when folks were pointing their fingers at Ryan McConnell and I dared to ask if there was actual evidence indicating he was involved in Amanda's murder or cover-up. You accused me of being Ryan. You scoffed at me and said something to the effect of "Lol, this is a statement analysis blog, not an evidence analysis blog," as if I'm an idiot who doesn't know what's going on. Remember? So then I asked for SA linguistic evidence that he was involved, and instead of answering me, you just kept calling me Ryan. Remember? All because I asked a simple question.
I didn't say anything about you being embarrassed about your videos, but you did. Interesting. If you're not comfortable with the fact that your videos are propaganda, maybe you should rethink your hobby. I'm sure the grieving parents of Newtown would rather not have "the likes of you" making videos accusing them of being liars and crisis actors who are part of the "never ending Sandy Hook hoax," as you call it. How sick and twisted do you have to be to spread lies and misinformation about people who've had their children murdered? If Weston is unfortunate enough to stumble across your YouTube channel some day, I doubt he'll think very highly of your work.
Heck, you even said Amanda's murder might be a hoax. Now that's embarrassing.
But you're right about one thing ... it's best that you don't respond to my posts anymore.
Cell phones are a cheaters best friend
Js
JS,
If you know something, tell the police.
Pak, in your post on 2/12 @6:12, you asked: "How did he know this wasn't a mere fall or passing out?" "I can't believe it." "If someone could explain that I'd appreciate it."
Because Pak, He saw the drug paraphernalia (sweeter smokes?) that was left behind by the intruders on the kitchen counter top that he knew did not belong to either he or Amanda, knowing neither one of them smoked dope. He SAW it.
THAT ALONE; even if there was nothing else, told him there had been an intruder in the home, whether he paid any attention to Amanda's (by now) shallow breathing, her bleeding out, or not; or whether he saw any one of her THREE gunshot wounds, or thought it strange that her shirt was pulled up exposing her breasts, with her panties lying beside her along with duct tape, or whether he thought she might have knocked over the ladder and planter herself in a fall. HE SAW THE DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. He could have NOT known she has been attacked. He KNEW this was no accident. ABB
Kate, if I may suggest so, let's just ignore this crap from JuJu above. It isn't going to stop, some people just go on and on and on parsing their words, digging into your gut and never stopping. Slamming at you for this, slamming at you for that. It's what they do.
They twist and blame and blame and question and question what you meant and what they meant, parsing and insinuating, accusing, digging and digging. They never stop accusing you of saying or meaning, this or that and on and on draining your mind power, nagging and snarling, until they have rubbed your last nerve raw, even gouging at your intelligence. (OMG, Sweet Jesus, can you imagine being MARRIED to someone like that? It would be akin to a never ending whiplash, or a little puppy dog yapping and nipping at your heels constantly while you try to dodge him).
For instance I was lumped in with 'accusing'? this Ryan McConnell person, I presume he is the neighborhood watch person(?), of being involved in some sort of cover up for Davey, when I have never mentioned this person's name in my life; the most I've ever said about ANY of the neighbors was to question why no one called 911 when they HEARD a woman's screams and heard two gunshots, but did nothing. By name or insinuation, I have NEVER mentioned this man at all, much less have accused him of anything. I DON'T just run around accusing people when I have nothing to go on.
Somewhere up there I was also accused of using the term "BJ" when this is not one of my words. I may have alluded to it, and the implication may have been made; but say IT, I don't think so. I don't like the word. I find it nasty, it is a 'q---r' act and is in opposition to the Holy Word; with God having warned us repeatedly for our own good, to "KEEP ABDOMINABLE FLESH OUT OF OUR MOUTH"; knowing He wasn't referring to a rotting dead chicken when He told us not to do this.
But it isn't going to stop Kate; they've just GOT to be right and you're wrong. There are also two others up there who just can't wait to jump me about something, slinging mud at me in support of each other and bla bla bla. They can just have at it for all I care; I know it's because I carry the name of our precious savior and will NOT back down. Ever. No matter how ugly it gets.
I don't care what they think, I'm sorry for them because in the end the only thing that's going to matter concerning ME (or you) when we stand in the judgment is what JESUS says, not them. SOOO, if and where possible, let's just ignore the crap and move on. ABB
From BobCat:
Resonate is broke. Amanda's death didn't pay out like DB expected. Don't waste CD's time if you're not gonna write him a check
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I still haven't had the stomach to watch the sermon but really appreciate your transcripts. This REALLY does appear to be what he is saying. "Start paying up or get out." I have no doubt that his church is a revolving door of people. What sane person could sit and listen to him for very long? Continuing revolving door of new people helps him with his numbers and his salvation scores but it can't support the church. The stage sets alone look expensive, the rent for the school, the huge pool he brings in every Sunday to dunk people as soon as they raise their hands. (he def following in the Elevation church with this one. It is speculated that volunteers actually walk toward the pool at the end so others will follow and get dunked that day) I think it is interesting that last week he is talking about meeting with an interior designer and contractor. This week he seems desperate and is begging for money. Does anyone else find this odd?
ABB said: "Kate, if I may suggest so, let's just ignore this crap from JuJu above. It isn't going to stop, some people just go on and on and on parsing their words, digging into your gut and never stopping. Slamming at you for this, slamming at you for that. It's what they do." February 13, 2016 5:39 AM
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Thanks ABB, I will definitely be doing that, I keep my distances from proven liars both on the internet and in the real world. Sorry to you and the rest for the disruption, It won't happen again.
Also thanks to all for the kind words on the vids, I'll post part 3 here when I have it up.
Bingo3 said...
"I think it is interesting that last week he is talking about meeting with an interior designer and contractor. This week he seems desperate and is begging for money. Does anyone else find this odd?" February 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM
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I think that personally he may be OK financially due to life insurance benefits. ...But he has grand plans for Resonate and has run out of benefactors to help pay Derek Barrett's salary. I wouldn't be surprised that when big donations showed up in the past, the donors were probably thinking more of providing for Amanda's upkeep than DB's. Without Amanda, DB is so much less of everything, or more of everything depending how you look at it... PN is an unusual man, but definitely called it from the start about DB, and Amanda making things right.
But I digress...
Even though DB may be OK himself financially (probably building his own new home to keep up with those of his more successful friends), there is no way he will put his money (other than a donation to make Harry go to gauntlet - which Amanda forced him to do) on the line to keep Resonate alive.
On one hand, he talks about how careful he is budgeting (in a part of the sermon that I didn't transcribe), and then on the other hand he tells people to give money they don't have to the church.
#Theendsjustifythemeans
I believe that the number one motive for DB orchestrating Amanda's (and her pregnant womb) hit was for insurance money. The insurance company should do an investigation.
Trivia - 2016 price for Gauntlet attendance is $325.
One more thought to get off my chest today:
Regarding a spouse being a slingshot for ministry. I think Amanda WAS a slingshot forward for DB. Unfortunately, there is only so far she could take him - because HE is a HORRIBLE pastor.
The thing is, Bingo; we're never going to know how much money Davey has actually raked in. Initially, there were about three separate fund raisers going on, weren't there; then he had them all transferred to his OWN tax free non-profit SELF where there is no accountability.
We do know (or have been told) that he purchased a new $50thou SUV for cash, according to another poster who lives in the area and saw him in it; correct? She had even done some follow up with the dealer where it was said to have been purchased and by golly, it DID appear to be Davey's new car, paid for in cash. The final word on this I do not know for sure.
Yes, I believe he needs money; not so much needs as WANTS. For one thing, when a person is living gratis, free off everyone else and not hitting a lick at a snake; (which he ISN'T, nor has he all along), it starts to feel good to them and they want more and more of all this free 'found' money they never did a damned thing to earn by the labor of their own hands. The pig. They see how easy and lucrative it is to beg, con, scheme, lie and live off others.
There's no way that little bunch in his so-called church could be shelling out enough to keep him up in the style he's grown accustomed too; while there the fool is telling them he doesn't need or want merely their support, he wants them to BUY IN, buy in, buy in. He is actually badgering these people for big chunks of money! Jesus Christ, how horrible IS this man? I wouldn't be surprised at what he's planning with a contractor and decorator. He thinks he's entitled to one, off the backs of others, of course.
HA, some day he may long for a little comforting 'support' when he's sitting all alone behind bars with only a cellmate who turns a deaf ear to his jabbering and psycho babble. I HOPE to see that day yet in my lifetime. ABB
Bobcat, I had another thought I wanted to get off my chest too. Yesterday some of us were speculating as to why Amanda's parents were tolerating (not in those words) Davey's insanity and why they had not hired their own PI to investigate him, and the suggestion was made that it could be they don't want to rock the boat and risk not being able to see little Weston. This could be the case;
But I've had another thought concerning this situation. You know, there are many (most that I've ever heard of!) middle-aged and older couples, grandparents, who have raised their children to adulthood, have educated them and sent them on their way to make their own lives;
who have made the decision that they are not about to take on any grandchildren to raise, even though they could do it financially and are in reasonably good health. They're finished with it, have reached their own plateau of simplicity and peace in their lives and don't plan to do it again.
THIS could be the underlying reason Amanda's parents are so willing to go along with whatever Davey does and says. They want HIM to raise little Weston. Maybe they don't want the responsibility of a child to raise themselves, having to start all over again with a small child. It happens a lot. You would think they would want what's best for the child but this might not be what they are thinking. ABB
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Bobcat, ref your post on 1/18 @6:29, I tried and tried to bring up the link you posted but was never able too. When it finally opened this morning it went into Facebook but not anywhere that had anything to do with DB, PN or Resonate, which crashed my 'puter. I don't know why I have so much trouble with the links that are posted here but for some reason I'm almost never able to open any of them.
Anyhoo, it doesn't surprise me that Davey would turn up looking like a street slut picking up blow-j's on the prowl, his favorite extra-circular activity. He just loves to advertise himself as being available. I'd lay odds he snuck out of his house many nights during his marriage to Amanda and did that very thing, and more.
These men who use 'family values' and the Word of God to practice and cover their dirty tracks are the lowest of the low. Believe me, I DO understand how the atheist and the agnostic gets to the point of non-believing they reach in their lives. They've already had and seen many disappointments in their own lives, now they see all the fakes robbing so many unsuspecting souls. It is very sad that so many of them allow the 'religious' filth of this world to influence their eternal salvation, robbing them of it, especially in light of the fact that we have nowhere else to turn but to God as we cannot save ourselves either in this life or out of it. These so-called Christian men are the robbers of the soul, ignoring their own damnation, as they didn't really believe in God in the first place.
Would preacher Nobel sing the praises of another male beauty other than Davey before the congregation? Of course he would; anything to take the spotlight off his little protégé Davey's male allure. He knew what he was doing. They are ALL sick in the head and disgusting. They sicken me in my gut.
Personally, I don't really judge them as to their preferences, that's between them and God and not my judgment call to make; but to mislead unsuspecting souls under the guise of Christianity is lower than dirt or any practice one could ever conceive of; or not to come on out of the closet and stop luring in trusting women, completely destroying their lives, like Amanda and many other women I could name, leading to the destruction of their life and soul if they can't see what they are dealing with and find a way out of it. They are truly of the devil.
NO woman deserves this kind of deceitful lifestyle. I have witnessed it first hand, it is one of the saddest things I have ever seen; a pathetic woman trying to please a q---r husband that she has no idea he is q---r and can never be pleased by a woman, is tormenting to a woman, the rejection she feels ultimately destroys her self esteem and pride in herself as a woman. I don't think they ever really recover from it psychologically.
So there they are, luring in MORE young and unsuspecting souls. They have no fear of God? That says it all. Believe it, they have their motives and it's not all just about tithing when most of these youth don't have much money in the first place. It is very sad, AND sickening. I get the picture, loud and clear. Sneaky, sickening, repulsive q---rs, the whole lot of 'em, hiding behind pathetic women. ABB
January 19, 2016 at 8:53 AM"
Well there ya go! It appears that I DID use the BJ word back there in January. Or did I? Somebody (slack-jawed fool) has wasted a lot of their non-productive time going back creeping along at a snails pace to find it just to prove me wrong. I'll be damned!!! Well bully for you!
That IS, IFFF this feeble minded person didn't modify my post to suit themselves. Some people actually can do this; I've S.E.E.N. it done before.
Whatever. YEAYYY for you. Mission accomplished. ABB
I finally watched the sermon and honestly, it was the least choppy, most unified sermon I have ever watched by DB. He was very concise explaining the different stages of his church growth, etc. He even got emotional reading AB journal. Exactly how I thought he would be from day one. However, there was one thing that struck me as odd! DB was talking about Weston always wanting to know where he was and if he was coming back. He blamed it on the fact that Weston knew DB could be forgetful. WHAT? Weston behavior is a result of attachment issues that he will have for a VERY long time. I adopted two of my children out of foster care. One was just 8 mnths and the other 20 mnths. The older would wake up from a nap and if I wasn't in the room, he would go into a mini panic attack. He was taken from his mother who neglected him and left him alone a lot. Weston mom was killed in the house while he was there. She was abruptly snatched out of his life. Weston is traumatized. He doesn't know DB can be forgetful. He is just afraid his daddy is going to get taken away from him too. This just made me all kinds of sad.
I'm way behind on the comments here - now on Feb 12, when
Bobcat @ 9.24am Feb 12
said:
'One other thought for analysis. DB mentions doors opening and closing a lot, including doors that you're not supposed to open. Isn't this also related to sexual abuse? '
I've wondered about this, too - not only in relation to Davey, more generally, as there are many scriptural references to doors/gates - literal and metaphorical, along with allusions to doors, so I expect it's not surprising that preachers often make mention of doors. Jesus described himself as 'the door'; probably the most well known verse is Revelation 3:20 'Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.'
How does SA deal with doors as encountered in scripture, metaphor, allusion, poetry - ancient, less ancient and contemporary? Would there be any significance, say, to a writer/speaker choosing 'door' as a means of expression, likening etc - it's not as if there are many ways to express some concepts better than through doors, gates, and entrances.
"How does SA deal with doors as encountered in scripture, metaphor, allusion, poetry - ancient, less ancient and contemporary?"
That's a good question, Jude. (I don't have the answer, though, haha.)
I do think it's important to keep the language of the Bible in mind when attempting to analyze sermons. For instance, someone suggested Davey's language about "trials" during a sermon indicated a criminal trial was on his mind, but there are many scriptural references to trials and tribulations that have nothing to do with criminal court.
(Not only that, but he's already been on trial in the court of public opinion for months now, so I personally wouldn't assume his use of that word indicates he fears prosecution in an actual court of law.)
Kate, thank you so much for creating and posting your videos. It really sheds a light on Davey and his church and shows him for the charlatan and terrible husband and pastor he is.
Bingo: good points! I wonder how much or how little time CD is actually spending with Weston. My guess is not much.
Bottle Cap,
I didn't transcribe every minute of the sermon, but it is near the beginning (5-7 minutes?) where DB mentions that a cousin (who already has four children) of his watches Weston during the day.
Db's brand new hashtag:
#communitybringsbreakthroughs
Followed by a tribute:
"8 years ago on Valentine's Day I gave @amandagblackburn a Braveheart sword and wrote her a poem. In that poem I vowed to always fight for her heart and asked her if she would join me in the greatest fight of all - the fight for people's hearts to be connected to Jesus. 6 months later at our wedding, she walked down the aisle during our "first look" with a sword behind her back, presented it to me, and told me that she was joining the fight. Today I'm rejoicing through many tears that she is enjoying Valentine's Day in the presence of her first Valentine - Jesus. I like to imagine Jesus presenting her with a sword today and telling her, "Daughter, you have fought the good fight. You have finished the race. You have won the prize. Well done." Today, I vow to continue fighting that good fight until Jesus calls me home. I can only imagine where @amandagblackburn is going to use these swords in her decorating scheme in our house in heaven. With all my love . . ."
fight, fight, fight...
What a lucky girl Amanda was to receive a sword for Valentine's Day. I bet she was thrilled. All girls love swords.
His idea of heaven is weird to me. She's sitting by the pool, tanning and drinking Piña coladas, and her first valentine, Jesus, (get me a bucket!) hands her a sword and says "you've fought the good fight".
Fought is the operative word. Past tense.
She's finished fighting. She doesn't need a sword. Maybe a medal?
The violent imagery in Crazy Davey's speech is undeniable. It doesn't matter what he is talking about.
All that talk of doors; being led to doors, going through doors, keeping away from doors that shouldn't be opened, it clangs in my head.
Amanda's murderers were led to a door, went through a door ( an unlocked door) and killed her. He left that door open for them.
And that hashtag.#communitybringsbreakthroughs
Breakthroughs? Or break ins?
It is astonishingly trivial and nonsensical to talk about Amanda decorating their home in heaven with swords.
In that one statement, there are seven "fight"s and one "fought". Violent much, Davey?
I'm older than DB and AB. My husband and I are both 48. I'm quiet by nature but my hubby is not. He is the type that attracts people like crazy. Not all are close friends but he's just like that. He is in sales/ customer service and I can tell you that he knows and has more acquaintances than DB. My husband could fill a room with 500 people if not more. This is just going on who he's met and knows through the years. My point is, IF DB was charismatic he'd be reeling in people. He's not reeling in people. He's begging. He just doesn't have the personality to make people like him. I guess my point is why is he in this position? If he can't succeed at this does he have the ability to do something else? Also does he have another job? How does he survive u less someone is paying his way?
He's more concerned with Jesus than Amanda. I understand a persons relationship with Jesus but this is just too much.
All DB's talk of fighting reminds me of something I realized a few years ago.
You can't badger people into accepting Jesus. You will more than likely drive them away.
Everyone has their own schedule for spiritual development/growth and you cannot force "fight" people's hearts into things they are not ready for. You can't love them into it either ... but you can be a loving example.
DB's videos show that he was NOT a loving example - of course he is failing as a pastor.
Bad Juju - that would have been me (Davey's tweet about a trial) - yes, it's interesting re Bble language -I've been thinking how water is also commonly referenced in relation to cleansing, renewal, justice, might. I think to do a search on SA and scripture, as Peter did write some articles on it a time back, I don't recall if he addressed the many mentions of doors and water, which usually have positive associations in the Bible.
It's always good to see someone taking a devil's advocate role at work - I second those who appreciate your posts and input.
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it would help to keep boards friendly (advice I don't always manage to take myself) - if posters would try to attack the argument rather than the person making it; if someone contradicts or challenges an argument or viewpoint, try to avoid taking it personally or making it personal. It helps to distinguish between the argument and the person who is making it. No-one is always right or always wrong; feelings and opinions, however strongly held, are not the same as facts.
Tiptoes out of room...no need to throw stilettos at the closing door, anyone. :)
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Pops head back round door:
Something else I find difficult is some of the (extreme) moralising and judging which goes on around some cases and individuals - what difference does it make that anyone, personally, disapproves quite so much of anything or anyone who is under discussion - ie Davey?
Fact gathering around his upbringing, behaviour, morals, outlook, finances, possible motives, all good - slamming him on and on, making unfounded claims, what has that to do with SA?
I want to understand how and why people are as they are, and why they might do what they do, and say what they say; judgement and moralising is a secondary and rather self-indulgent extra, at least in terms of SA, surely. I know with this case, it is particularly difficult for those of us who are Christians, as it seems so evident that Davey is not someone who should have been considered suited to the role of pastor - that he was, and still is, is of interest and concern, inasmuch as it shines a light onto what seems to be the lack of discernment on the part of the influential person/s who have surrounded, sponsored, and supported him.
It is very difficult not to judge, yet I think a more objective approach, seeing the person for who they are, and as they are, rather than who and how they should be according to our own lights, has to be more conducive to doing SA, or trying to do it.
Hey Jude,
If it quacks like a duck, and it walks like a duck.....I thinkit is fair to conclude, objectively, that it is a duck.
A violent, scheming,murderous duck.
Bobcat - There's a lot of violence in Davey's language - and enjoyment of it, all through his sermons -he finds it awesome and cool when people get hurt, and rather than concealing that, strangely exults in it. There's stil 'something wrong with that boy' as his mentor noted, or perhaps he said 'something not right with that boy' - memory fails. It's his appreciation of violence, and of vengeance wreaked, which is 'wrong' or 'not right' with him, at least, I am sure. He's like an adolescent playing a 'shoot em up' video game, except that he takes pleasure in the thought of people being hurt (recalling the sermon where he thought it would be awesome for people to walk unawares straight into glass doors).
Where Davey refers to his pre-Resonate self (in the sermon) as a 'crazy little punk kid' - It seems he is still much stung by Perry Noble's description of him as 'Crazy Davey' - in that part of the sermon he is trying to spin it so that it was his bold faith and 'vision' for Indianapolis which made him seem crazy enough to earn the nickname, rather than any other of his behaviour. He is also trying to distance himself from the nickname through time passed, despite that in reality, it's been many years since Davey was any type of 'little kid' - he was younger but by no stretch of the imagination a 'little kid' during the NewSpring years. I think he's trying to both minimise and maximise himself as that 'crazy little punk kid' some people perceived him to be, against the real 'craziness' (boldness/vision) now being made manifest in David (Davey) slaying 'Goliath' - that crazy little punk kid was actually a hero in waiting for the sake of the Kingdom, we are meant to understand.
(Nice try - not buying it, though, Davey. The fires of hell are too hot? - well, that's interesting, as thought patterns go.)
I would be so interested to know if 'fire' has any particular significance or association in SA? It's got to be on a level with water and doors, surely, somehow - what might references to fire indicate or relate to?
Anon @ 11.03 - you might be over-analysing that poor duck. ;-)
What is the purpose of these bizarre stories?
1. CD is re-writing Amanda's history. He will tell the stories HIS way again and again until Amanda -- who had little identity in his mind -- is completely erased. She's not here to debunk that Valentine sword story. She's not here to call him out on the house that he said she absolutely had to have. She is now who he says she was.
2. CD is re-writing their relationship history. On Valentine's Day six months before they were married, one would assume they were passionate about each other, body and soul. Yet CD is painting a picture of picture of two people whose only focus was God and sex. Almost like an arranged marriage with benefits. He doesn't say he loved her. His only praise for her is her godliness.
Why? Is CD playing for an audience, not the church audience, but someone waiting in the wings? Someone that needs to be convinced that CD never really loved Amanda?
Think of Richard Shahan, the pastor in Alabama who killed his wife so he could start a new life with his paramour(s).
Good point BottleCap @ 12:20.
But first, you have to believe that it's Davey writing these posts. I don't, not since the day he changed his writing style and suddenly started warming up towards Amanda. His thoughts in re all the violence and self-praise, and bla bla, yeah, all drafted by Crazy Davey. That's the REAL Davey, just watered down.
He has a friendly ghostwriter perusing and fine tuning his drafts. Davey isn't competent to put two logical sentences together much less write anything that turns out making sense. He doesn't have it in him.
Don't be fooled. He and his helpful writer thinks he is being clever. Again. NOT. ABB
ABB @10:32, I agree. The writing style is soooo different. Reads like a feminine touch.
MsDp
Yep, it sure is, MsDp @11:44. Also, the feminine touch is obvious, just like you observed. Lordy, Lordy. He (and his writer) seems to think everyone else is as dumb as he is.
I wonder if the rainbow dude preacher a little further south is still overseeing his porn selections on the interwebs. Wonder which ones he would approve of. Now that's a joke if ever I've heard one. Selective preacher porn. What next, after rewriting the entire Bible? ABB
A few other things about the sermon. Was it necessary to make fun of AB spelling the man she had been praying for Psi instead of Sy. He laughs and mentions it a few times. Even in her death, still kind of making fun of her. Also, the whole thing with Weston and how he isn't clued into human behavior enough to recognize that Weston doesn't think DB is forgetful, Weston is traumatized. DB is completely out of touch with real human emotion even down to his own child.
About his tweets, they have been SO different! He is actually putting up pictures and remembering AB just in last few weeks.. Before it was all, moving on, she died for the church, let's capitalize, best is yet to come, etc. Very interesting. I never considered a ghost writer. Hmmmm. Also, if we are dealing with a narcissist here, there may be jealousy and a competitive thing going on with the lovely writings of her sister.
Since I came into this case a little late, was it true that the doctors and nurses said that DB was upbeat and actually laughing and trying to encourage them in the hospital? In any 48 hours type show, the police always mention the initial bizarre behavior like someone being too upbeat, out of mourning character, etc. DB with the t-shirts and all the interviews, completely fits the profile of a suspect if criminal history repeats itself. So much time has passed now that I just don't know where LE stands. I don't know if the doctor/nurse thing true but read that in a feed at one point.
The medical staff who treated Amanda Blackburn have never spoken publicly, and it would be improper for them to do so.
DB the wannabe community savior's latest effort at trying to come up with a new catchy slogan.
"Those with great community experience breakthroughs . . . Those without experience breakdowns"
Regarding his recent tributes - I wouldn't be surprised if Meg is drafting, reviewing, and editing for him.
True about speaking publicly being improper (not sure whether anyone on the medical staff did or not) - but the medical staff who treated Amanda could have spoken privately to LE and indeed I think they would have if requested - or maybe even approached LE of their own volition.
It would have been obvious to the medical staff that these gunshot wounds were clearly the result of a crime and not an accidental shooting. They would not be surprised and would even expect for LE to ask questions of them once the initial flurry of activity/treatment was finished - this would not be out of line at all, nor would it be unprofessional for them to answer.
I think the medical staff would have been questioned as to Davey's demeanor/attitude and behavior - plus which the detectives (Perkins, and others? - the forensic nurse as well) who interacted with Davey that morning and in the hours afterward could form their own conclusions.
I will go a step further and state that some of the medical staff most likely had things to "share" about Davey, things seen in their interactions with him during the time Amanda was in the ER and then in the hours following while she was on life support. It seems that the staff caring for Amanda during that time would have the most information and thoughts to share. I would be that the EMTs of Engine 12 had some things to share as well about the scene when they arrived and Davey's actions, state of mind and words.
It wouldn't breach patient confidentiality/HIPAA at all if the staff or EMTs commented on anything about Davey or his actions. What the medical staff feels about the family and friends of patients is not protected information. Ethically, it is frowned upon to comment unfavorably about family but in this case had I been one of the medical staff treating and caring for Amanda, ethics with respect to the grieving (or actually not so much) husband would have gone out the window because this patient was clearly a victim of a crime.
Considering all of these recent posts with the language that is SO unlike anything Davey has communicated since November 10th - this clearly isn't the type of feelings or information he has been putting forth. These appear to be the writings of someone who has been reading what we've been writing and what the comments following the interviews and web articles have said.
Why the sudden change from "the best is yet to come", "nothing is wasted", talking about how Amanda is in heaven drinking pina coladas and laying out in the sun - now it's all like what I wouldn't give to pick up Chinese takeout and snuggle up with a movie. . . counting the days until I see you again. . . WHERE was all of this introspection and love and regret and the sense of opportunities lost forever - where was this in the days immediately following the conundrum?
Right now it seems like too little, too late - major damage control for sure. It has been three solid months. Had Davey spoken or written things like this in his early interviews or earlier Facebook posts or in his tweets- had he expressed these feelings of love and a sense of loss - we could have a really different picture of him right now.
Waiting until two and a half months have passed, when people have been commenting on his actions and words from the start - then adapting his actions and words to appear differently now - it's so obvious to anyone who is looking and reading that this is either NOT him writing these posts - or if it is him, he is sending forth what he thinks we and LE want to see and hear to indicate to us that he's not actually dancing on her grave in his heart.
Exactly. Because if all of this sweet talking, lovey dovey talking didn't occur in the editing phase, it's irrelevant now.
MsDp
Medical staff speaking to law enforcement and medical staff speaking publicly are two entirely different things. None of the medical staff have spoken publicly, and the police have not released any information about what the medical staff did or did not say to them about Davey Blackburn's behavior in the hospital. Period.
I, too, don't think or remember whether anything was said publicly or released - but I think lots of medical staff would have had lots to say about Davey's words and actions and demeanor if they were questioned. I also think maybe some of them would have said things to LE even if they were not approached by them, that's all.
LE should have been putting a puzzle together from the very start. As Bingo3 said earlier (although not in these words), Davey totally fits the profile of a seeming-to-be-mourning-but-not-really-mourning individual, with his bizarre selling of T-shirts, giving interviews, telling the people who were coming to the memorial service what to say and not to say to the press if they should be approached. . . it goes on and on and on.
With respect to the recent posts about Chinese food and Valentine's Day . . .
Remember too, this was supposed to be a sudden and totally unexpected home invasion in which Davey's wife was assaulted and killed - and not just killed by accident in the fallout or process of the intruder getting away - it appeared to be intentionally done, execution-style with a gunshot to the back of the head. Taylor allegedly said that Amanda charged at him - was she running backwards towards him? If the intent was just to escape but at the same time to make sure she was killed to avoid identification by her in the future, why not shoot center mass instead of a head shot from behind?
It wasn't like Amanda had a terminal illness, dying was expected and there had been time to say goodbye and for Davey to make peace with and adjust to the idea of "doing life" (hate that phrase) long distance like they had done before, as he said in one interview. All of the peace and calmness and moving forward so happily would be much easier to understand or believe if Amanda had been majorly suffering on earth and was finally safely in heaven in the arms of her Heavenly Father.
It seems there would be even more sweet talk, memories, wishes and regrets for the future expressed in posts sooner after such an unexpected event - when everyone but especially Davey was still stunned not only that Amanda had been taken from his world so suddenly, but also by the violent way in which it happened. And I still cannot remember Davey expressing any fear that the killer(s) were still out and loose and might return for him or Weston.
Thanks Anon. I read that on a thread that is why I was asking. Thanks for clearing up about medical staff. I can see now they wouldn't personally share. The only way I think maybe came out is if a family maybe said, he was such a trooper, trying to encourage the doctors and nurses, got in pastor's mode. I think that is where the thread came from but if it is not a known fact, I apologize for my speculation of the comment.
Anonymous said...
Kate, thank you so much for creating and posting your videos. It really sheds a light on Davey and his church and shows him for the charlatan and terrible husband and pastor he is.
February 14, 2016 at 11:26 AM
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Thanks for watching it and the kind words anon. I wanted to compile some of CD's crazier statements and put them into a video because I thought for certain they would pull every single crazy video he did, down. I still can't believe they have left the videos up.
There's no hope for Davey, I think both he and PN thought this would be an opportunity of a lifetime and that the public would embrace him and his flock, that he would gain a ton more follower's and that he'd be cashing in on this "conundrum". Now I believe they have gone into damage control mode, but it's too late and there are still too many people who will continue to expose Davey Blackburn for exactly who he is, myself included. His best bet would be to focus on his son and go into hiding. He has no future as a "Pastor" or any other public figure as he is extremely fortunate to be walking free instead of in the clink where he belongs.
Let us k
Let us know when you post a new video Kate they are awesome! CD is a cold-blooded killer and those old Sandy Hook moms are phony! Fake, fake, FAKE!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Sorry i hit send too soon the first time!!!
Kate,
I was finally able to link onto your videos this morning. Can't thank you enough for making them and anxiously await your next one. Mainly however, THANK YOU for doing what you can to help Amanda! I also viewed the video interview given by Jeannie P, I just HOPE she stays on top of her analysis and does not drop the ball, and will do some investigative work of her own. IMO, it is going to take someone like her to root out Davey Blackburn's involvement in Amanda's murder.
It was clearly obvious that she has suspicions of him; whom, I have to say was certainly clever on all of the excerpts taken from his interviews. The cops, BTW, leave no wiggle room whatsoever for investigating him. They have no further interest in him at all.
The creep was/is 150% hung up over sex, sex, sex and more sex, totally without regard to the wife's feelings. Amanda looked pathetic in some of the shots of her. It would have been nice to see what was being hidden under her sunglasses.
It sickens me when pastors/preachers dig into how wives are under subjection to submit to their husbands. Jesus didn't say that! NOT ONCE. THAT was a teaching (order!) given by the so-called Apostle Paul, who came along THREE YEARS after Jesus died on the cross and ascended to the Father. All these years, (3,000!) this teaching alone has kept women enslaved in every way in their own homes, in every denomination I am familiar with. Jesus did not condemn or enslave women; he freed them!
NO WHERE in the teachings of Jesus does it state that there will be another one (preacher/teacher, is what he really was) coming along after Him to issue NEW teachings from Christ. Is there? Somebody show me. IN FACT, Jesus warned us to follow HIM and Him alone. These people do not really understand the teachings of Jesus at all, yet they were so simple and easy to follow. ABB
I agree with you SHL @9:03pm, Kate's videos are awesome! Not sure what you mean about the phony Sandy Hook moms(?) in your comment. Did you mean in the interview the mother of one of the killers gave to Dianne Sawyer recently? I feel badly for her but I do think she missed at least two clues prior to the killing spree. ABB
The interview with Sawyer was the mother of one of the Columbine killers, not Sandy Hook.
SHL is talking about Kate's other videos. She doesn't just make Crazy Davey videos. She also makes videos claiming Sandy Hook was a hoax.
https://youtu.be/G2kPfo27Jl4
https://youtu.be/sqk7a9__3i0
ABB needs links or she can't open them
Sandy Hook Elderly Parents
Sandy Hook More Whoppers
Today's nonsensical and violent post on DB's twitter https://www.instagram.com/p/BB2IVVbB4Ku/
"So encouraged by these verse today (Zech. 9:12-13)! . . . If you're feeling bent and you're about to snap, just know you're only being bent to be made into a weapon! If you're feeling heat and pressure from your circumstance, it's in order to wield you into a sword for battle! Lord, make me dangerous for Your Kingdom!"
...followed by a more appropriate plug for Randy Alcorn's book "Heaven" https://www.instagram.com/p/BB2OAGxh4Em/
"Thank you, @randyalcorn, for this book! It has ministered to me more than you can know!!"
Newest sermon is up! I won't be able to transcribe for at least 24 hours.
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/overwhelmed-week-3-just-drink-the-water/
The posts that people are somewhat remembering about Davey's demeanor in the hospital, I believe they were from Amanda's sister, when she was comparing Amanda's death with Weston's birth. If someone has links back to that, it might be helpful to review. She mentioned talking and laughing together with Davey during both occasions. There may have been more from another family member (his father??) regarding Davey's 'witness' toward the staff.
Amanda's sister said this on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10207693899607269?fref=nf&pnref=story:
"I squeezed her hand to make sure she knew I was there, and I held onto that hand in complete and total desperation for the next two days. Davey and I, along with hundreds of others, sat by her bed and cheered her on with each breath of the ventilator. We wept and laughed and sobbed and giggled about memories of Amanda that flooded our mind. She was a fighter. She was going to make it. She had endured one of the most scary and helpless moments of her life, in her own home, and I know Amanda pushed and fought with everything inside of her."
Sounds like there were a bunch of people involved in the moments of laughter. She also said this about Weston's birth:
"For two hours, Davey and I held her hand and cheered for her with each push. She never gave up. Each push was just as strong if not stronger than the one before. She not only amazed Davey and I, but the entire staff of nurses and doctors taking care of her. She gave one last final push as she brought the most incredible life into this world. Weighing 6 pounds, 7 ounces, Weston James was here! I sat there completely in awe of what I just watched my sister endure. Through the tears and pain, she conquered. She fought with every ounce of her being."
To continue from my post above...
Here's the interview with Davey's dad: http://www.transylvaniatimes.com/story/2016/01/07/news/church-family-helps-pastor-grieve-brevard-nc/25788.html
Blackburn recalled the time when he lost his mother, when Davey was a small child. He said he remembers his son asking him why he was crying, after learning of his mother's death.
"Davey looked back with that childhood faith and said, 'Why are you crying? Grandma went to heaven, right,'" Blackburn said. " Davey has just has a very unshakable faith."
(Geez that article is terribly written!)
Perry Noble said this http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/30508886/newspring-pastor-perry-noble-reflects-on-amanda-blackburns-death:
Noble said he’s been in daily contact with Davey since the tragedy and marvels at how Davey is handling the loss.
"Davey's faith is so strong, that I haven't said anything to him, he's encouraged me. It really is... the only way Davey can react the way he is reacting is because Jesus Christ is living in him."
My experience with grieving is the closest family members set the tone. If Davey was beside himself, no way would friends, even other family, be giggling. Remember he also invited the masses to come and laugh, before grief, at Amanda's funeral.
Wouldn't "closest family members" include Amber?
Thank you Anon @10:56 for setting me straight concerning the Sandy Hook murders vs Columbine. I was so deep in thought about how Paul belted out strict teachings for women (actually against), that Jesus never said during his time on earth, that I got lost in the reminiscing, I guess. Anywayz, that's the only excuse I have.
Thank you!
And thank you too Anon @11:11 for posting Kate's blue links that are easy for me to click onto. It's the others I have so much trouble with pulling up. THANKS! Want to go review them now... back later. ABB
"If you're feeling heat and pressure from your circumstance..."
Haha. Have the police been talking to you, Davey? Do they suspect? Are you feeling the heat?
DB 2/16:
"If I can communicate properly what Jesus just downloaded on me for this Sunday IT'S GOING TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE!! You don't want to miss it!"
Jesus just downloaded on me too - He said DB is cray-cray. Did I communicate that properly?
Anonymous said on February 16, 2016 at 7:19 PM
"If you're feeling heat and pressure from your circumstance..."
Haha. Have the police been talking to you, Davey? Do they suspect? Are you feeling the heat?
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I hope. . . .I hope. . . .
I hope (sniff)
trademark quote from the interview when Davey was asked if Everett Grace aka Evie would have dimples
he actually said "hoped" in the interview but "hope" fits better for my response to the questions. It would be fantastic if police have been talking to him.
From BobCat: Jesus just downloaded on me too - He said DB is cray-cray. Did I communicate that properly?
That is hilarious! I haven't watched any of sermon but I can't wait to see your transcripts and SA. Jesus downloaded to me pretty early on the cray-cray thing too!! HA!
Heat and pressure are used to forge a sword. He was talking about becoming a sword for battle.
Bad Juju said...
Wouldn't "closest family members" include Amber?
February 16, 2016 at 5:19 PM
Not in a patriarchal religion, the women submit to the men.
Yay! Another sword for Amanda to use in her decorating scheme for heaven.
It occurred to me that it'sfunny that CD likes to imagine Jesus giving Amanda a sword, just like CD gave her for Valentine's Day.
Jesus must have uploaded the idea from Davey. Copycat.
CD: Lord, make me dangerous for Your Kingdom
LORD: What? MORE dangerous? Are you nuts?
I can't get the direct downloads, so I have to get info the old fashioned way, i.e in the shower.
Right Anon and I also put up video's like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7JbS7Jec4E and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJOmIlDcxQ - it's what I do and I would recommend you watch the first link I provided, seems like you could use a good dose of happy news ;)
Funny, anon @10:53 & 10:44 & 10:38. You crack me up. Did you go get in the shower and wait for God to speak directly from above, bypassing Ezekiel, Moses, all the other prophets of old, and Jesus? Bet you're still there then.
Well spoken mom2many, this subjection nonsense is what most men & women actually believe. But Jesus never said it. I've read every word of scripture given to us by Jesus, over and over and it simply is NOT there. Women have been so demeaned by this subjection idiocy that they have no concept as to how special women really are, actually believing we are under mental, physical and spiritual subjection to man. Mans' "biblical" subjection over woman is their excuse to do whatever they want too to a woman. This same evil is today being practiced by Islam, ISIS and every other so-called religion who believe God told them to lord over women, he owns them to do with as he pleases, little more than chattel.
But again, JESUS never said it. They do not know how to 'rightly divide the word' as we were told to do.
I watched my father, basically an illiterate man who barely had sense enough to come out of the rain (the poor man could hardly look after himself), keep my mother under his subjection all of her life until she became completely whipped down; and THIS was the will of God? NOT! She lived and died a broken woman due to his years of subjection over her, having to accept this was the will of God. It isn't.
I suppose Amber thought she had to be second fiddle to Davey as he led the way in his non-grieving "the best is yet to come" for Amanda? Poor woman doesn't know any better. This could be the same reason that neither she or her mother have taken no steps to investigate Davey or try to get little Weston away from him. They give over to him like they actually believe he is above them in superiority when he is nothing but a blubbering fool and very likely Amanda's real killer. ABB
I see your post above Kate and I'll be looking up your videos later today. Thanks for posting them. You're good at it, girl! Keep up the good work.... ABB
Hey Everyone! In looking over at Peter's newer statement analysis articles I see a lot of our posters are involved in some of the latest missing cases. I read a couple of them and find them very interesting (as well as the excellent statement analysis courses he discusses), and with a lot of good feedback going on; however, I've been involved off and on for the last past seven years or more in many of the previous cases and have decided for now to back off in taking on more for awhile.
This case particularly took a lot out of me, seeing so much unresolved deception in Davey Blackburn as well as in his ministry, so for now I don't think I want to take another one. It takes its' toll. I wonder sometimes how Peter does it. These cases are heartbreaking, particularly when the obvious guilty ones are never prosecuted, consequently are never brought to trial and their innocent victims never attain justice for the evil and horrendous murders and injustices that were done to them. It is very disappointing.
For now, I will be sticking with this one, checking in from time to time, and hopefully we will see some action taken against sicko Davey Blackburn someday. IMO, he is going to be a very difficult one to pin down. If at all. Maybe Judge Jeannie, who does not appear to be easily deceived, nor does she appear to hang onto the coattails of Nancy disGrace, will stay on top of it and create some action, and Kate will keep making her youtube videos exposing him. I hope so. ABB
OK, here it is. Have at it!
Interestingly, he bookends the entire sermon with "Can I be honest with you?" Typical projection. Lots of goodies and leakage, and we specifically are shoe lint to DB. Ha ha!
2/14/16 Sermon Part One
30 seconds: I’m gonna um, I’m gonna be really honest with, with you guys, is that OK? Can I be honest with you today? Is that alright? Is it OK to be honest in church? Heh, heh. I know you’re not used to it, but, um, I’m not doing so good today. I don’t know, I don’t know what it is. I don’t know if it’s, a, combination of a lot of things. I, I don’t think it’s just because it’s Valentine’s Day. That’s probably what’s popped into your mind. Um, I get to rejoice in the fact that my, my Valentine is, is spending time with her first Valentine, Jesus, right now, so I can rejoice in that, but, something about today I just don’t, I just don’t, I don’t feel very good.
2:01 Introduces 2 Samuel 23:13 …At that time, David was in the stronghold. Here’s what I believe today. I believe there are some people in here, that you feel like that you’re in a stronghold. That there’s been pain, or sin, or, um, uh, some kind of relational bitterness, unforgiveness has kept you in a stronghold, and I believe today is the day that you’re gonna be freed from that stronghold. That you’re gonna be released from it, and all I’m asking you to do is lean in. Lean in to this because I wanna show you today how you can be free from your stronghold.
3:20 (talks about three mighty warriors bringing water from the well to David and David wouldn’t drink it)
4:20 Today, I want to title my message “Just, Drink the Water.” Just Drink the Water. If you really want to get a little bit crass, you can put in parentheses Just Drink the Frikkin’ Water.
6:35 Unintelligible…we’ve had, we’ve had those things. Or maybe you’ve gone through a long season of just feeling relational strife or, your marriage is frustrating right now, or your kids are really frustrating right now, or, or maybe, maybe you’re in, maybe you’re in a, in an addiction that has lasted for a long time, and you’ve promised over and over to yourself and to God that you would not be in that addiction anymore, and may, maybe you’re in, in, in a mindset that’s just continuing to circulate over and over.
7:00 Whatever it is, you might have a stronghold that you’re trying to break through today. And here’s what I know. Those people who have great community have breakthroughs.
7:11 Breakthroughs and breakdowns slogan.
Part Two
12:05 Today I want you to start thinking – Do I have good people around me? Do these, do these people lift me up or do they bring me down? Do these people point me to Jesus, or do they drag me away from. Will these people have my back when I’m going through something difficult? Will they give me the shirt off their back or will they turn their backs? Which one? Who do I have around me? So, the first word, ONE: Direction.
12:55 I, uh, I just got a, a new car, and um, it’s pretty awesome. I really like it but here’s what’s cool about it. …(talks about reverse camera and display, then describes driving around town in reverse with a passenger)… Now, if that were the case, you would look at me and you’d say OK, Davey needs counseling. Our Pastor is on crack. OK? I get it, but here’s the crazy thing. We look at that, and we say that’s abnormal, but when it comes to our own lives, we think it’s normal to drive in reverse.
14:45 Oftentimes, you and I can get stuck in situations because we are consistently looking through the lens of reverse. You know there’s a reason why the windshield in a car is a lot bigger than the rear view mirror. … (talks about David in the stronghold wishing for water from Bethlehem, his hometown) … He’s saying, I wish I could go back to greener pastures. I’m stuck in this cave of Adullam, and I wish I could just go back to then. Now, David’s driving in reverse, because BethleHAM for him is long gone. He is now en route to something better, and he’s stuck in the cave of Adullam. Here’s what’s crazy. The other three hundred men who came around David originally when he was at the cave of Adullam, somehow, they were able to be elevated out of Adullam, and go on to greater things. David’s stuck in Adullam. The reason he’s stuck in Adullam is because his mindset is stuck in reverse, nor forward.
Part Three
16:34 Now we do this. For some of us, maybe our mindset is stuck in reverse, not because of good things that we remember in our past, but because of really bad things. Maybe one of the reasons you can’t move forward in relationships and you can’t trust anybody is because you had some, somebody that hurt you five, ten, fifteen years ago and you still can’t let that go. You’re afraid to trust anybody else, and therefore your friendships and your relationships will always be stifled and stuck in Adullam instead of getting to the place that you need to go.
Maybe you did something two, three, four, five, ten years ago, that you consistently live with regret of, and because of that, you’re not able to move forward into the plans that God has for you. You haven’t embraced the fact that God has forgiven you, that he’s wiped that clean, that if you’re in Christ, you are a new creation.
17:54 Maybe it was something that was done to you. Maybe legitimately you were a victim of some monstrosity, some pain, some hurt, and although everything inside of you wants to move forward, you’re stuck in Adullam because you keep your mind set back there. And you buy into the lie; how could God ever use me for something great, there, when, this, is all I see about me?
19:09 Decisions, decisions
(Quotes Dave Ramsey – you are the average of your ten closest friends. Physical spectrum – fat or fit – advertises crossfit and community. Financial spectrum – broke or wealthy. Spiritual spectrum – dry or full.)
Part Four - Doozies Here!!
22:55 So, look at what happens here with David. It says: So, the three mighty warriors, Stop! These guys weren’t always mighty warriors. These guys, it says, way earlier in David’s life, came around him at the cave of Adullam because they were broke. It says literally they were in debt, in distress, and discontented, which I’m, like, man, that’s probably the life of every church planter in church plants. Right, it’s like, everybody just, kinda comes around ‘cause they’re all broke and discontented about everything else, so we’re gonna like start a church together, so that’s. That’s us. And, and, and so these people come around David and they weren’t always mighty men. They were misfits, but because they were around David. David spoke truth into their life. David spoke strength into their life.
23:40 He stroke, spoke potential into the, their life, and he took them from being a misfit to being a mighty warrior. I wonder who you can be that for. I wonder if there’s anybody in your life that’s gathered around you that you’re going; man, I’m not really sure I like being around this person but I feel like God has brought this person into my life for an opportune moment for me to take them from being a misfit to being a mighty warrior. Wives, do not elbow your husbands.
24:24 (Brings other people on stage to act out bible story)
25:10 Zach, Travis, Derek, you guys are the mighty warriors. I’m David, it’s not too far of a stretch of your imagination. So, I want you guys to surround me. Here’s what the mighty warriors did. They were such great friends. They said: NO, you know what. If the Philistines (other group of people on stage) are going to try to get to David, if the enemy’s gonna try to get over here, they gotta go through us, first! That’s the kind of friends that we want. We want friends, not friends who, listen, not friends who would turn their backs on us, but friends that would give us their backs when we have difficult circumstances that we’re going through. These men, listen. These men had nothing to gain from this.
David is in a spot where they should’ve deserted him. They should have been “Bye Felicia” gone! But they didn’t. They stayed. And I happen to believe it’s because David knew how to be a great friend to them when they were in times of need, and so then, they were great friends to him when he was in times of need. Pause right there. Some people in here wonder why you don’t have community. You don’t have great friendships. You feel isolated and alone and, maybe, I’m just saying, maybe perhaps it’s because you haven’t been a great friend to anybody else. Maybe it’s because every relationship you get into, you take from, and you take from, and you take from, instead of pouring out and giving of yourself, and when you pour out and give of yourself…when you get in a situation where you’re surrounded, you’re gonna have people around you to say “Hey, I got your back, bro. Because you poured into me, I’m here for you.”
Part Five - We're shoe lint!! Woohoo!!
32:10 Can I tell you something? I don’t know if you’ve looked on the internet at all. There’s a lot of people saying some really dumb stuff about me. And people ask me, does that bother you? The trolls and the critics and all that, does that bother me? And here’s what I tell them. I ask them if a warrior is bothered by a piece of lint in his shoe. Is he? No! Now, at first I was, because at first, I was putting more stock in this (points to outer ring on whiteboard – represents outsiders) than I was here (points to center of ring – represents 3 close friends). But I’ve got great people around me, who know me inside and out, who speak truth into my life, who are OK with telling me: Hey, Davey, you need to knock it off here. Hey, Davey, you’re doing a great job here, and they’re OK with that, and I began to put more stock in this (center of ring) than I did here (outer ring) and these people (outer ring) have become a lint in my shoe. It doesn’t bother me. In fact, I pity them, and I’m hoping one day we can reach them. But I’m not gonna trouble myself with them, and neither should you.
34:00 Denial (Three D's - Direction, Decision, Denial)
(Shows extremely violent “’Tis but a scratch” clip from Monty Python and the Holy Grail to give an example of denial.) https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&p=monty+pyhton+tis+but+a+scratch
38:31 (Talking about why David poured out the water that his warriors had brought to him)
I think David was in denial. You know why I think David was in denial? Because somehow, like I said earlier, somehow all the men had found their way out of Adullam. Do you know what Adullam means? Adullam means locked up or locked in. Listen to me, listen to me. Some people in here, you know you need help, but anytime somebody approaches you to give you help, you’re like “Why do we gotta talk about me? Why don’t we talk about your problems? I don’t. I’m good, man. I’m goo, I’m good.” You’re in denial.
39:06 Hey listen. It’s because of pride, and pride will always keep you in a prison. David was locked up.
(It appears that DB & Weston are staying with Derek and Ashley Barrett.)
40:00 I walk out into the living room this morning and there was a Valentine card from Derek and Ashley for me for a coupon for a free sixty minute Swedish massage. Now, listen, yeah, right. What if, I had been like, pshhhh, which we haven’t talked about it since then, but… What if I had been, like, You, yo, you’re on a worship leader’s salary. You can’t afford this. You need to spend more money on your deep vees and skinny jeans and scarves. Don’t give me a massage! I don’t need a massage. I’m good, man. I’m good. What if I had been like that? I would be in denial.
51:55 Can I be honest with you? I’d rather have a biopsy than an autopsy, any day. Any day.
It sounds like DB is in denial that Resonate is failing and he is stuck in Indy (Adullam) while the other warriors/pastors have broken free and succeeded. His pride is keeping him (and his three musketeers) in prison.
Bobcat you already analyzed the whole thing??? That must've taken many hours or even days!!
It took a while to transcribe, but I have not analyzed it. I am still a beginner at analysis.
Wow his sermons make my head spin. I can understand them but at the same time they confuse me. He just seems to ramble in circles. Talks more like a therapist or counselor than a preacher. Everything is about relationships and stress. I don't like that he referenced crack and autopsies. His lingo and his constant references about the same thing over and over are just too much for me. Why would his friends get him a Swedish massage? That's kind of weird.
Davey, you're catching on to some of what the shoe lint blog commenters are saying.....
You've started to feign some love and longing for Amanda and that's good. (Either you or your ghost writer, that is.)
You've mostly dropped the tripe about Amanda's death being good after your mentor preached at Resonate that it wasn't good.
But you need to study Statement Analysis a bit more. Going on and on about how honest you're about to be throws up big red lying-flags!
And I will predict that within the year your 3 keepers in the circle will have moved on, realizing that without Amanda, you're just plain old Crazy Davey as PN said. You know they do read, as you said, what's posted on the Internet. They will reflect back on the way you treated Amanda, the recurring violence in the past and present pathetic pulpit rants, the incredible coincidences on the murder day and how quickly you tried to pump up your business with Amanda's "story".
We here on the blog may just be unnoticed lint in your shoe (though I doubt that) but we will keep pointing out your guilt until it becomes a huge jagged stone making your days miserable. Wait for it!
"We here on the blog may just be unnoticed lint in your shoe (though I doubt that) but we will keep pointing out your guilt until it becomes a huge jagged stone making your days miserable. Wait for it!"
I don't think that's the purpose of this blog. Not the last time I checked.
One more thing, Davey, how annoyed must church members and Amanda's family & friends be....those who donated money with which you purchased a new well-equipped vehicle (mentioned in your "sermon") and to hire a contractor and designer for your house?
Did Amanda's murder cause your existing car to stop working or your house to be inadequate?
Did your salary stop coming from PN? Was there not talk that donations would go into an education account for Weston?
What about all that while you're feeling so honest, Davey?
Anon at 11:50
I and others here feel quite committed to pointing out the dishonesty in Davey's statements.
It is, indeed, why we are here.
Why else?
"Adullam means locked up or locked in."
Kinda like prison, right Davey?
Is this a bit of foreshadowing/projection?
Tick tock, CD.
Concerned: Statement Analysis?
If your goal is to make Davey Blackburn miserable, maybe you should start your own blog.
If people who say mean things about you are shoe lint, what does that make the scum who murdered your wife and unborn child? Are they shoe lint too? They don't bother you?
Your perspective is out of whack, Davey.
PS. You did not issue a reliable denial of the accusations made against you by the shoe lint crew.
Anon at 11:59
In Statement Analysis we learn that liars like Davey have become accustomed to getting away with their lies and
finally having them pointed out makes them angry.
The goal of most commenters here is to point out Davey's lies.
He will make himself miserable.
We'll just watch and wait....
And comment.
Sorry.
Concerned: Then you know that "Can I be honest with you?" doesn't automatically mean the speaker is lying, right? It can mean a number of different things. You should read up on the subject. It's important.
You said "But you need to study Statement Analysis a bit more. Going on and on about how honest you're about to be throws up big red lying-flags!"
You're doing drive-by Statement Analysis. You're not even trying to do it right.
Re: shoe lint
CD says ".....In fact, I pity them, and I’m hoping one day we can reach them."
Yet in his very next breath says;
"But I’m not gonna trouble myself with them, and neither should you."
Such. Stunning. Hypocrisy.
Anon at 12:37
Comments like that throw up the flags and make us notice what follows.
I realize they don't prove guilt.
But thanks for the tutelage.
Both Davey and I have a lot to learn.
Come on, Anon @ 12:37.
CD: Hey, can I be honest with you?
SHOELINT: No, please lie to me.
SA definitely recognises, and flags for deception, the word "honest" in a statement.
Out of style trends that you should phase out of your wardrobe:
Deep vees and skinny jeans.
This is not SA, but I'm just sayin'.
Crazy Davey,
May I suggest you check your definition of "stronghold" ?
Not so fast. "Can I be honest with you.." "he he"; This is not cute like you think it is. I thought preachers/pastors were always honest... right Davey? You actually admit that you're not always honest, 'eh, Davey?
While the spotlight is on Davey, like it always is; again it's all about him, and NOT about leading lost souls to Christ; now he's being David and his three supporters are his warriors. They've got his back, or do they? Get real Davey, you are NOT David who slew Goliath. There's that violence thingie again! You just can't get away from showing your violent side, can you Davey?
I see you managed to humiliate one of your warriors too, your friend. You point out to the poor guy that he needs to phase out of his wardrobe his deep vees and skinny jeans but can't afford too on a worship leaders salary. Not that you NEED a worship leader. How humiliating for this poor guy and his wife, that it appears, you happen to be free loading off of. Yikes.
With friends like you, who needs enemies? You actually imply to these three who jump around at your attention, that you are going to lead them from being misfits to mighty warriors. "Just drink the water.." "drink the friken water." You mean kool-aid, doncha? Same dif. Shall I go on? You are a disgusting little man, Davey Blackburn, hiding under the cloak of being a man of God, with lonely and lost souls actually falling for it. At your mercy and servitude was poor Amanda. ABB
Pak31,
I'll transcribe a little more about the "stress and tension" comments that led the Barrett's to get DB a massage. What's typical is he never says "Thank you", but insults Derek's salary and wardrobe.
Did anyone catch him saying "stroke"???
He also mentions gangs and community. Since he is trying to push his "community" program, I didn't transcribe everything he jabbered about it. His sermons are so circular and repetitive!
Bobcat, you did a fantastic job transcribing Davey Blackburn's latest crap. How DO you do it? You're a trouper and a gem. Sweet Jesus, it's almost more than I can handle just to skim over it, trying to read it but trying not to read it at the same time. Yet, I deeply appreciate you posting it for us. Make sense? Hope so.
Yes, I saw him saying 'stroke'. Now I'll have to get back up there and see what he was talking about, having tried so hard not to allow any of his disgusting garbage to sink into my mind.
Recognizing it when I see it; I don't like any works of the devil (which his clever words surely ARE since they do nothing to lead others to Christ; in fact, they lead others AWAY from Jesus and HIS teachings, with only praises for his glorious self); creeping up on me but I guess sometimes we just can't avoid it.
The fool actually said he'd rather have a biopsy than an autopsy???!! Well who the hell wouldn't! What an idiot. I just can't believe people in their right mind would actually sit through listening to this ridiculous madness. ABB
Bobcat, thank you for transcribing the sermon!! WOW!! I haven't read through all of it but the car thing just bothers me. I don't want to speculate too much because maybe his car died, it was very old. But doesn't he have two cars now since AB is gone? Maybe he traded both in to get something great but the whole interior designer, new car thing just seems super selfish and too soon. It has to be a red flag and a turn off to AB family? If my brother n law sold my sisters car( speculating, not stating fact), bought a new car (fact) and hired a designer(his words) this soon it would make me so sad 3 months later. It sounds like a nice, new car too with the back camera and motion sensors. These kind of things might just catch the eye of LE.
Also, I was looking at some old news articles and comments regarding the case. One person from Indy said that two of the guys arrested were well known attenders or possibly male prostitutes at local bath houses. I have NO IDEA if this is actually true but I found that interesting. Any connection there I wonder? AGAIN, just speculating and wanted to see if anyone had heard this?
From Concerned:Was there not talk that donations would go into an education account for Weston
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My thoughts exactly. Davey hasn't lost his salary, most likely got life insurance(very curious about this one and if police checked into this) and AB was a stay at home mom. Why all the donations needed but to help Weston. Someone should set that up so all the $ won't go to tight silk pants, brand new cars, remodeled houses and expensive haircuts. I wish AB parents would set up their own fund just for WESTON and not more money just going toward Davey. I can only imagine how much money he has received thus far!
A tiny, old Hinda Civic is not ideal for toting around a toddler ... just getting him in and out of his car seat would be difficult. Maybe Amanda's car had mechanical issues and it was just better to get a new one. I'm not sure LE would care if he got a new car three months after her death. If they were interested in his car, they had plenty of time to check it out.
In the sermon he says he "just" got a new car. Months ago, someone here was claiming he got a brand new SUV. Was that just made up?
I don't understand the significance of the word "stroke." He had just said "spoke strength," and it sounds like he just tripped over his words. Are people implying it was some kind of Freudian slip?
Also, why is "Bye, Felicia," bolded in the transcript? It's a popular movie line that people use to basically say, "See ya, loser!" It's used a lot on a discussion board where I'm a member.
What is the context of the biopsy/autopsy comment? What he said before and after is missing. I know it's a lot of work to transcribe this stuff, but it's nearly impossible to properly analyze statements when the context is completely removed. I'll watch the whole thing this afternoon when I have the time.
In reference to Davey and Weston staying at someone else's house ... I'm surprised that other folks are surprised he doesn't want to stay in the house where his wife was murdered. That's not uncommon ... lots of people move after something like this. Also, if he has decided to sell the house, it might need some sprucing up. My husband has a home improvement business, and one of his big clients is an interior decorator who helps people trying to sell their homes. It wouldn't be an insult to Amanda's decorating style, it's just a fact of life when trying to sell.
True JuJu, it did sound like he needed a new car and it sounds like he got a really, really nice one. Thanks for your perspective from the other side. I do enjoy hearing other theories etc. Just want to get your thoughts on the whole shutting down all donations and making them go through his tax deductible church? Also, don't you think it would have been nice to have an education fund strictly for Weston. That just seems to be the way I have seen it done when a parent dies in the past. I had a friend who died of cancer and her husband had all funds set up in his kids names for their future education. He also set up a fund in her name to support her favorite charity. Davey sure hasn't done anything resembling this but maybe in time he will. Maybe he is a completely different person than he has shown himself to be in the public eye.
Bingo @ 11:43 am said:... Maybe he is a completely different person than he has shown himself to be in the public eye.
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Maya Angelou — ‘When someone shows you who they are believe them'.
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Thank you Anon Ms Dp @12:06. Maya Angelou! LOVED her. "When someone shows you who they are believe them." Truer words were never spoken.
My favorite prose/poetry writer of all time. Greater even than Somerset Maum (College Lit) and many other great philosophers. A VERY wise and knowledgeable woman.
Maybe, maybe, maybe, Bad JuJu. Yeah, right. Maybe the sky is falling too, henny penny.
Oooopsie Daisy! Forget to sign off on my post at 12:31. Sorry 'bout that. I am ABB.
Bingo, don't forget; Davey has proved himself to be a rapist. Didn't he brag that Amanda had to have sex with him before they could even eat their evening meal? No matter if she was tired and hungry and needed to discuss something of vital interest with him, or might have been sick, or the baby might be crying and needing attention; she Had to accommodate him sexually FIRST. THAT my dear is R.A.P.E. R.A.P.E. R.A.P.E. Force or coercion is RAPE.
Didn't he preach and brag that his wife was under his subjection, there to meet his sexual demands at anytime he wished, however he wished, even tossing 'butter' (a very descriptive and highly embarrassing implication) into the mix? THAT is R.A.P.E. R.A.P.E. of the sordid kind AND bragging about it.
Didn't he flail his arms about while charging around in one of the videos Kate posted, (IN a sermon no less!) demonstrating and bragging about how he would sling everything off the top of the counter and slam/throw Amanda up onto the counter and force sex on her right then and there? THAT is R.A.P.E. He claims seven times a DAY he thinks of and needs sex!
THEN the lo-life belittled and despised Amanda for being pregnant after HE got her pregnant.
Davey Blackburn, you are a dirty lowdown rapist, no better than Mohamed what's-his-name, the false prophet the Muslims preach, teach and follow. ABB
Why are you still responding to my posts, ABB? Why? Can you not control your nasty mouth? This is the last time I'm gonna tell you ... LEAVE. ME. ALONE. HARPY. Don't talk to me. Don't talk about me. Get a grip.
UP yours JuJu. Look look. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!
How dare you tell ME who I can and cannot respond too. You don't like it, don't post here. The "LAST time you're gonna 'tell' me?" AND JUST WHAT THE HELL DO YOU PROPOSE TO DO ABOUT IT, FOOL? You don't like it, don't respond!
Is that nasty enough for you? I can always say worse, you know. YOU get a grip. Don't you have sense enough to realize you are posting on a public forum for all to see and read AND RESPOND TOO, henny penny? ABB
Bingo, I'm not gonna say he didn't get a really nice car, because I have no idea what kind of car he got, but rear view cameras are available in many affordable cars. Not sure if he decided to get another Honda, but they're already standard in 96 percent of Honda cars and all of their light trucks.
http://www.carfax.com/blog/cars-with-standard-rearview-cameras
http://www.drivingthenation.com/vehicles-with-back-up-cameras-andor-sensors-as-standard-on-driving-the-nation/
On the subject of donations ... I agree a college fund for Weston would be great, but I have no idea if they've started one or plan to.
As far as having all donations go through the church, I can only assume it was maybe to avoid the taxes? Taxes etc. are really not my department, and I don't know how the church's finances are handled. But he certainly wouldn't be the first person to try to avoid paying taxes on something. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but he's been reported to the IRS, so if he's doing something improper, I think they'll figure it out and put a stop to it.
I could take some wild guesses on other reasons he might do that, but I don't think it would be helpful. And I can't remember who started the Gofundme accounts :)
Thanks JuJu. Always like to see all sides of things and appreciate your input.
ABB-
You have repeatedly told other posters on this blog not to respond to you, and threatened some when they said things that you did not like. Yet you tell JuJu "how dare you tell me who I can and cannot reapond too". JuJu has the same right to tell you not to respond to his/her posts, just as you have that right. Every one of us who read these comments regularly know that you do not agree with or like the observations that JuJu posts. That's fine, its your right. You and JuJu have had words here before that weren't friendly, so why even respond specifically to JuJu? You get very nasty when people assert their rights and/or opinions. "Up yours"??? Very nice, from a 75ish year old woman who touts so much knowledge of the bible and what Jesus would do.
So true, Rella!
Does anyone else think it's creepy how ABB talks about butt sex all the time? Doesn't seem proper for a devout Christian lady, amirite? I wonder why it's on her mind so much.
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He was/is a whining, complaining q---r homo like they all are who find themselves trapped with a woman. They just can't stand it! She could have been the most beautiful and wealthiest woman in the world, he STILL would have despised her. How he even found the ability to have sex with her without being impotent is truly amazing, as he would have hated every minute of it and had to fantasize his thoughts elsewhere while forcing himself to perform. Lo-down dirty dog would have been demanding and forcing anal sex on her, just so he could do it. ABB
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This little dumpy unattractive former babysitter some think is involved with him? Could be, who really cares, when she is nothing to him but usery when all he really needs is a baby sitter and she perfectly fits the bill. But she'd better get ready to experience some painful anal sex which is what she's in for while HE goes on performing his anal and lollipop sex outside the bounds of their relationship. Was she already involved, at least with siding up with him prior to Amanda's murder? Very well likely since for some strange reason she suddenly moved out of their home and Amanda stopped posting right about that same time. ACTIONS speak louder than words. They always have and they always will. ABB
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OMG, and all that humiliation he put her through over his 'bad' marriage and how having a baby makes it worse, and his disappointing sex life with her, even making embarrassing innuendos of threatening her with anal 'butter' sex. I just can't imagine how no one in Amanda's family ever picked up on what an a'hole he really was in his treatment of Amanda; idly standing back, watching him destroy her soul. ABB
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Unfortunately, Amanda is the one who paid for it for the rest of her horrible marriage to him and his anal buttered up sex that publically hinted at and forced on Amanda. Poor girl. He sickens me. He is a despicable human being guised as a man and a minister of the gospel, a leader and a pastor. ABB
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I believe his use of the butter term in conjunction to using butter during sex was meant as an anal threat to Amanda, "you know what I did to you with the butter..." Being all but impotent with Amanda, the nasty thing would use all the props he could, to hell with Amanda's pain, displeasure and humiliation. He didn't give a shyt whether she liked it or not. I believe Amanda had come to despise Davey as she silently kept her anguish to herself. ABB
BJJ:
In all the sermons I have transcribed lately, DB said "stroke" ONCE, by accident, in the context of building up misfit men into might warriors. It's interesting.
I bolded "Bye Felicia" because of the way he said it. It just sounded soooooo juvenile - it made the kids on stage giggle. It's at 25:45 in the video.
Moving on - more context, more of the end of the sermon transcribed!!
The massage gift:
39:50 I mean, just a couple days ago, for the past couple days, I’ve been telling Derek and Ashley “Man, I need to go get a massage, I need to go get a massage." I just felt stress. I need to just go get a massage, and, like, carrying all this. Weh unintelligible go get a massage. I wasn’t doin’ it like, “Man I sure hope somebody gets me a massage! Sure hope somebody pays for it!”, but I walk out into the living room this morning and there was a Valentine card from Derek and Ashley for me for a coupon for a free sixty minute Swedish massage. ...
DB talks about community and joining resgroups, and mentions gangs:
45:50 45:50 Most people don’t have great community. Why do you think people are looking for them? They’re looking for them in drugs, alcohol. Hey I heard this the other day, from somebody who’s all up in this world, but they’re looking at it from, in, in gang related activity. You know what gangs offer? They offer a family. We got lots of people in this city who are just looking for a family of people that will say “Hey man, I’ll accept you for who you are, and I’ll bring you along in this process”, and, and, and, and the thing that distinguishes us is we say “Hey, I’ll point you to the one who can actually do something for you to heal you, to fill you, to put back the broken pieces. That’s what we want to do for you.”
Context before biopsy/autopsy comment:
51:10 Maybe today something I said struck you and you said Man I need to talk to somebody about a stronghold in my life. Maybe there’s an addiction or maybe there’s a stronghold of your psyche, maybe there’s bitterness, maybe there’s mental ill, illness. Whatever it may be, maybe you’re like me and I just need to confess that stuff to somebody as the first step of healing. I want to offer this to you. We’ve got folks at guest services right now, I’m gonna any of our leadership team who is present right now to go ahead and step to the back, and I’m gonna ask you right now, in this moment, as we sing this next song; I’m gonna ask you to just slip out. “But, Davey, people will know” You know what? It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. 51:55 Can I be honest with you? I’d rather have a biopsy than an autopsy, any day. Any day. Maybe today there needs to be a little bit of just cutting out of the, the thing that, maybe people need to see it’s OK. Listen, it’s OK to not be OK.
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