Thursday, August 15, 2013

Mark Redwine's Home Searched

For those new to the case of missing 13 year old Dylan Redwine, Statement Analysis has concluded guilty knowledge of Dylan's death, by his father, Mark Redwine.

Please use search feature for more information.

The statements of Mark Redwine indicate a struggle took place between him and his son, and that his son is deceased.  See work by Kaaryn Gough, Analyst, in particular, for details on "leakage" from Redwine's public statements.


KUSA - The La Plata County home of Dylan Redwine's father was searched for a third time Wednesday.
The 13-year-old's remains were discovered in June on Middle Mountain near his father's house. The boy was last seen in November.
Mark Redwine said investigators from multiple law enforcement agencies came to his door with a search warrant Wednesday afternoon. They spent three hours at his home, which is near Vallecito Lake in southwestern Colorado.
Redwine says the investigators removed sections of carpet and wood flooring. He says they took a fireplace poker, clothing and a cell phone. Redwine said deputies also dug a hole in his yard underneath an outdoor staircase.
Authorities have never publicly identified Mark Redwine as a suspect.
Nearby residents reported a large police presence at the Redwine's home. It is unclear what prompted the new search warrant.
This is the third time law enforcement agents have searched through the Vallecito area house looking for clues. 
Officers did an informal search shortly after Dylan was reported missing. They also executed a search warrant about 10 days after the teen's disappearance.
(KUSA-TV © 2013 Multimedia Holdings Corporation)

83 comments:

Randie said...

Interesting choice of words for LE:

“We continue to seek every LEAD..."

“It’s just FOLLOW-UP on the still wide-open investigation,”

“an investigatory search to FOLLOW UP ON..."

Sounds like some has contacted LE with info on Mark.

_____________________________

LE collect physical evidence that may be linked to the disappearance of Dylan.

Investigators said they do not believe Dylan ran away. The investigation took a new direction where Dylan’s remains were found, Schirard said. “That, in itself, has narrowed some of the investigation,” he said.

Thursday, investigators towed two pickups that belong to him. They took them to an undisclosed location for further searching.

Investigators searched a travel trailer next to Mark Redwine’s house.

“But the METICULOUS nature of the search today required a search warrant,” Bender said.

The task force of 50 members started going door to door TUESDAY the 13th looking for any tidbit of information that could break open the investigation.

Anyone who took photos or shot videos that included VEHICLES along County Road 501 and Florida Road (County Road 240) from 6 p.m. Nov. 18 to noon Nov. 19 is asked to share a copy with investigators. The county dispatch center may be contacted at 385-2900.

"The Sheriff's Office is not calling Mark Redwine a suspect," said Bender, "However, since that house was the last place Dylan was seen, it is only prudent to do a more thorough search of that house and property for any information that can help direct us to Dylan." (The word HOWEVER just deleted not called Mark a suspect!!)



Trigger said...


Randie said,

"Sounds like someone has contacted LE with info on Mark"

I hope that LE finds evidence of Mark's guilt and prosecutes him for his crimes against his son.


Mark may have been in the throws of a drunken rage when he killed Dylan.

john said...

OT update Erica Parsons..

Search warrants returned in Erica Parsons case; adoptive mother hospitalized.

Snipped:

Two warrants released Thursday in the case of a missing Rowan County teenager reveal new details about what investigators have found while trying to determine what happened to the girl.

(I Wonder if LE in this case are trained in S/A)See below..

Investigators also documented that when Casey Parsons was interviewed about Erica, she referred to the teen in the past tense.

The search warrant states that investigators took electronics, bank slips, school records, notebooks, letters between family members and two knives wrapped in shrink wrap. They also took swabs of the walls inside some closets, behind some doors and behind a TV. They removed pieces of carpet and drywall.

Other items seized include:
Multiple pillows from beds
Multiple computers
Multiple cameras
Multiple cellphones
Documentation of a well construction on the property from Feb. 2013
White envelope sealed with "Erica Theeth" written on it and objects inside
Pants with red stains
Plasic bag with JonBenet Ramsey magazines
JonBenet book with notes inside about remodeling house
Baseboards, floor boards with red stains.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/adoptive-mother-missing-teen-hospitalized/nZPxB/

IMAGES: Search warrants released in Erica Parsons case.

http://www.wsoctv.com/gallery/news/local/images-search-warrants-released-erica-parsons-case/gCCxG/#3755913

Anne said...

I wonder if their son who turned them in was able to note some areas during questioning. This search sounds like LE has information.
One can't help but think why would you leave evidence such as a stained baseboard there for so long. In that amount of time a family could have remodeled their home or replaced baseboard or floors.
It is strange how often killers leave evidence. Maybe some people just think it goes away after time.
What was the adoptive mother hospitalized for?

Shelley said...

This is very interesting.

“ investigators removed sections of carpet and wood flooring……..a fireplace poker, clothing and a cell phone…. And dug a hole in his yard underneath an outdoor staircase”

With the fireplace poker, I am curious if there is some thought that the poker was involved in his death? And the carpet and wood also interests me.
I am very curious to see where this leads. I believe that Mark is responsible for Dylans death so any time where there is more searching done and could lead to evidence to bring justice I am all for it.

john said...

Coroner: Remains don't reveal how 13-year-old Dylan Redwine died..

Snipped:

LA PLATA COUNTY, Colo. - The coroner says her office has been unable to determine how 13-year-old Dylan Redwine died based on the remains recently recovered near the mountain town of Vallecito in southwest Colorado.

ast week, authorities announced DNA confirmed bones recovered during a five-day search in high, rugged terrain off Middle Mountain Road were Dylan's. They were found in a drainage less than 10 miles from his father's home, where he reportedly disappeared.

"So far, the items that have been found are not enough to make an actual cause of death or manner of death," La Plata County Coroner Jann Smith told the Colorado Springs Gazette. The manner of death is a ruling on whether a death is a homicide, accident or suicide.

"Until (the) investigation goes a little further, we may not know exactly what happened to Dylan," Smith added.

The La Plata County Sheriff's Office has not said what other items were found during the search, but they are treating the case as a homicide investigation.

"The information we have is there is no reason for Dylan to go to Middle Mountain and there is no indication he did it on his own," sheriff's spokesman Dan Bender said.
..............................
Does this mean that Mark Redwine will not be charged with Dylan's murder if there is no evidence of foul play?

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/coroner-remains-dont-reveal-how-dylan-redwine-died

john said...

OT..Erica Parson update..

Warrants say adoptive parents abused Erica Parsons, investigators testing stains for blood.

Snipped:

Erica Parsons, the missing teenage girl from Rowan County, was “routinely abused” by her adoptive parents before she disappeared two years ago, according to a warrant in the case.
Investigators with the SBI and the Rowan County Sheriff’s Office also say in court documents that family members of Casey Parsons, the adoptive mother, had told them “she couldn’t tolerate her and she does not claim Erica as her daughter.”

The warrants describe a troubled childhood and home for Erica. Family members told investigators they often saw bruises on her that the adoptive parents said were caused by other children.

“Family members stated another child in the home told this family member that Casey took a toy gun and broke it while hitting Erica with the toy. Erica was upset because it was her favorite toy,” the warrants say.
At one point, a family member told investigators Erica was sent to live outside the home by Casey Parsons, the warrants say.
“One witness said they took custody of Erica for about eight months after Casey contacted them and said she could not stand to look at Erica. This witness said Casey had brought Erica to their house.They said Erica had bruises on her bottom and Casey said she lost control and beat Erica.

Casey Parsons also told family members she disliked Erica because she reminded her of the girls’ biological mother.
“They said she could not stand to look at the daughter because she reminded her of Carolyn and she hates Carolyn,” the warrants say.

http://www.salisburypost.com/article/20130815/SP01/130819812/1016

Anonymous said...

“ investigators removed sections of carpet and wood flooring……..a fireplace poker, clothing and a cell phone…. And dug a hole in his yard underneath an outdoor staircase”

Was this a quote from Mark Redwine? His is sick twisted. I bet the sentence would be more truthful if he would have said

"And dug a hole in his yard underneath an outdoor staircase...where they found a fireplace poker, clothing and a cell phone"

Anonymous said...

Peter:

Something still hinky here.

http://news.sky.com/story/1128387/kidnapped-hannah-anderson-talks-of-ordeal

Anonymous said...

SMILING??? That is a recent picture of her with the cat. WTF!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2392452/Kidnap-victim-Hannah-Anderson-posts-selfies-answers-questions-Ask-fm.html

Anonymous said...

In response to a question about what Hannah would say to her brother and mom, the person replied: “That I’m sorry it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

The person also explained why she didn't alert the horseback riders who encountered DiMaggio and Hannah in the Idaho wilderness: “I had to act calm I didn’t want them to get hurt. I was scared that he would kill them.”

The online poster said she plans to see a therapist and is very upset about the death of her dog.

Anonymous said...

In response to a question about what Hannah would say to her brother and mom, the person replied: “That I’m sorry it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

The person also explained why she didn't alert the horseback riders who encountered DiMaggio and Hannah in the Idaho wilderness: “I had to act calm I didn’t want them to get hurt. I was scared that he would kill them.”

The online poster said she plans to see a therapist and is very upset about the death of her dog.

Hannah Anderson

Peter, please please SA this statement.
“That I’m sorry it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”
It is bizarre.

Anonymous said...

Selfies??? Is this chick a sociopath?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2392452/Kidnap-victim-Hannah-Anderson-posts-selfies-answers-questions-Ask-fm.html

Anonymous said...

So your mom and eathan were just at his house for no reason and the thing went off and they caught of fire and burned? He told us he was losing his house because of money issues so we went up there one last time to support him, and to have fun riding go karts up there but he tricked us.

Y was it uncomfortable to see ur dad? Well personally it's kinda hard to see any guy adult right now.

Do you know why he did it Because he's physco

I hope he burns in hell Me too.

Did he tell u that he had a crush on u or was that a roomer Yes he did he said it was more of a family crush like he had feelings as in he wanted nothing bad to happen to me.

Why didn't you tell your parents he creeped you out? Because he was a close family friend and my dads Bestfriend and I didn't want to ruin anything between them.

What were you doing when they found you? Sitting on the ground.

Did u cry a lot Yes.

Happy your ok. Stay strong<3 don't have to answer this but did he do anything sexual in any way? Can't answer that.

Did he make you help him put the tree branches on his car? Yes he threatened me if I didn't help.

What things did you loose in the fire? My family. Phone. iPod. My dog. My ID some money.

Do you wish u could have killed him I could never kill someone.

Are you happier they shot him or would you have wanted him to have life in prison? Shot him. He deserved what he got.

Did u talk to hikers? When u were in the woods? Cuz the news said that the hikers said that u were calm I had to act calm I didn't want them to get hurt. I was scared that he would kill them.


Her activities after the escape

When did you get your nails done ? Yesterday.

what advice would you give someone that has been kidnapped or is in danger? To stay strong and don't give keep fighting and gives clues as much as you can. People WILL be looking for you so don't ever think they are not. And to keep your head up and never let go.

why do you seem so okay with everything. you answer these questions it seems without emotion. what you have been through is tough and you had a lot of peoole praying for you, in fact I did. It just seems so weird that everything that has happened to you doesnt seem to effect you at all I'm trying to stay strong. And get out the truth. You don't know I could be crying answering these questions at the moment. You can show real emotion over social media. Do you really think I would be Ohkay with being kidnapped and hurt Nd finding out my dog lil brother and mom was killed.? Your f***ing crazy.

Who's your Idol? (: Kesha and my mom and Ethan.


About pets

How did your dog pass away? :( She burned on the garage with my mom and brother.

Why aren't you going to keep Oliver? I don't want the memories. But he's a trooper.

Can I have Oliver? I lost my cat after 22 years. :( She was my world. Maybe. I just really want him to go to a good home he's been through alot just like me.

Just wanted to say I am happy that you were found and sorry for the loss of your mother and brother. I kept watching your story and just praying you would be back home safe! Keep strong Cali girl, you're super strong for surviving such an ordeal! Oh and what's your kitty's name? He/She looks adorabl My cats name is puss puss lol. But the kitten I saved is Oliver.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2392452/Kidnap-victim-Hannah-Anderson-posts-selfies-answers-questions-Ask-fm.html#ixzz2c4zl8Bej
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dadgum said...

Why get rid of her cat? I cherished the pet of someone I lost. Just sounds so off for a girl of 16..

Anonymous said...

hannah talks and texts and it just keeps getting creepier and creepier...

She knew that her kidnapper had rigged the house to catch fire after they were well on their way, was afraid supposedly for her life and the lives of the ppl that found her, but thought her mom was still alive?

She tells reporters they have it wrong, but she doesn't want to tell them anything, it't none of their business and they do not need to know.....then says she's answering questions online to get the truth out there.

she says she's upset that her dog, her brother and her mom were dead, IN THAT ORDER.

She says he used her to carry his equiptment, yet she was carrying around a cat when found.

She goes out for manicures and posts smiling totally face-made-up selfies during her q & a

she contradicts herself quite a bit, and if she keeps blabbing away she's going to leak more out

Randie said...

Off Topic:

Q: why do you seem so okay with everything. you answer these questions it seems without emotion. what you have been through is tough and you had a lot of peoole praying for you, in fact I did.

A: It just seems so weird that everything that has happened to YOU doesnt seem to effect YOU at all I'm trying to stay strong. AND get out the truth. You don't know I could be crying answering these questions at the moment. You can show real emotion over social media. Do you really think I WOULD BE OKAY WITH BEING KIDNAPPED AND HURT and finding out my dog lil brother and mom was killed.? Your f***ing crazy."

"I would be okay with being kidnapped and hurt" are FRAMED WORDS.

I also caught the dog is listed before her Mom.

I don't have a good feeling about Hanna.... Something is not right.

Anonymous said...

so because some moron on facebook called in a tip because they forgot to take their meds and freaked themselves out over nothing, mark redwine's house gets trashed by LE and he is harassed once again. he is innocent, leave him alone. take your meds.

Anonymous said...

“That I’m sorry it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

Ended like that... Sounds like she wanted it end, just not like "that".

Anonymous said...

“That I’m sorry it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

wasnt she at cheer practice at the time? how would she have been able to try harder to save them?
yeh, i hope she never forgives herself.

Randie said...

Hanna Anderson said:

Peter said: "...We listen for the words "I'm sorry" to 'leak' from the brain of the guilty...it is interesting to notice how these words seem to slip out of those suspected of deception."

Hannah said: In response to a question about what Hannah would say to her brother and mom, Hannah replied: “That I'M SORRY it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”




Randie said...

"I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

"To try" and "trying harder" are two different things.

The first one shows she didn't try and the second one says she did try but failed.

Something is very wrong with her answers. She is contradicting herself

Randie said...

Hanna said: "He TOLD us he was losing his house because of money issues SO we went up there one last time to support him, and to have fun riding go karts up there but he tricked us,"

"up there" is sensitive...she repeats it twice.


BostonLady said...

Anonymous said...

“That I’m sorry it ended like that. I wish I could go back in time and risk my life to try and save theirs. I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

Ended like that... Sounds like she wanted it end, just not like "that".

August 15, 2013 at 9:46 PM

**********

The statement was made that Hannah didn't know that her mother and brother were murdered. But she makes the statement that :

"I will never forgive myself for not trying harder to save them.”

This doesn't make sense. If she didn't know that he was going to kill them, she couldn't try to save them. And then to say she will never forgive herself for not trying HARDER to save them. How could she try harder if she never tried at all?????

The other statement that has caught my attention was that the people on horseback said they overheard her say to the kidnapper "We're in trouble now". This seems like a pretty damning statement to me. She is considering herself part of the team with her captor.

Randie said...

I agree with you Boston Lady!!

Also: It said that 40-year-old DiMaggio and Hannah Anderson exchanged 13 phone calls before 4 p.m. PT (7 p.m. ET)

WHAT??? This feels HINKY!!!

Anonymous said...

Police who searched the torched home of kidnapping and murder suspect James Lee DiMaggio found firebombs, ammunition, used condoms, and "letters from Hanna," court documents show.
No. 37 on the list was "D & C letters from Hanna"

A DNA swab test kit was found inside Christina Anderson's burned-out car,.......

hhmmm was mom trying to prove rape of her daughter? cant rape the willing, is this what set hannah off to swing the crowbar?

BostonLady said...

I found the article about the horseback riders and Hannah's statement. Not something expected for sure !

Their group ran into DiMaggio and Hannah later at a lake. The girl was soaking her feet in the water, and DiMaggio was off to the side petting a gray cat, said John.

Just as he and the others were getting ready to go, Hannah said something that made little sense at the time.

"She said, 'Looks like we're all in trouble now,' or 'We're in real trouble now,'" said John. "I thought it extremely strange."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/11/us/idaho-riders

Pak31 said...

I know LE already took things from Mark's home earlier on. I only am hoping now that they are just digging deeper to find a murder weapon and/or proof of a murder. As for Hannah Anderson, the second day I read about her case I felt she was in on it with the kidnapper. She was with her mom and brother at his home. Where WAS she when THEY were being horrifically murdered?? Curious as to no mention of that. Just that they drove off afterward yet she didn't know they were dead. Secondly, she had the ability to go get her nails done, do her makeup and post pics of herself online after the rescue? I would think someone who thought their life was on the line would need a lot of time to recover AND to get over the shock of just finding out your family was killed. I'm willing to bet my house that they wanted to be together but family was in the way. So they killed(or he killed her family) and they fled. Even her own father didn't seem too worried about her.

Hobnob said...

off topic

The father of missing Utah woman Susan Powell - who has been missing since 2009 - is determined to keep looking for his daughter even though police have given up, and still has hope she may be alive, it emerged today.

Chuck Cox, from Oregon, has now dedicated his life to finding his daughter and spends most of his days traveling along Interstate 84 - where he believes Josh Powell may have disposed of her body - and following up tips.

He retired from his job as a veteran crash investigator with the Federal Aviation Administration so he could spend his days searching.

His experience tells him his daughter - who was just 28-years-old when she disappeared - is dead, but the father in him dearly wants to believe she is alive
Susan Powell was last seen at her home on December 6, 2009. Her husband Josh took their two sons on an impromptu camping trip even though it was mid winter and freezing temperatures.

He was later named a person of interest but was never arrested in the case. Cox strongly believed he was responsible for the disappearance of Susan and begged police to arrest Josh.

But they never did, and three years later during a supervised visit with his sons, Josh took an axe to them and killed them before setting his Washington home on fire, killing all three of them.

His brother has since committed suicide and his father is currently serving time in jail for voyeurism. Cox believes that all three of them had a hand in Susan's disappearance.

Due to the stress of the ordeal, Cox has lost 60 pounds. It has also taken its toll on his relationship with his wife and remaining daughters who want him to give up.

'If it were up to me, I'd pack up and be gone. I'd buy a camper and stay on the road until I found her,' he told the LA Times. 'I tell my daughters I love them, but that I'm going to find Susan. I'm not going to give up on her. I can't.'

One of his daughters Denise Olsen, 34, sometimes helps her dad on his searches and explains how - even four years later - her sister's disappearance still has a heavy effect on him.
'After losing Susan, he's been a lot more open and understanding,' she said. 'But every time he talks of not stopping until he finds her, his eyes tear up. And you just have to change the subject.'

Cox is getting no help from police - they stopped their search for Susan in May announcing they had run out of leads and had no choice but to wait for new information.

Hobnob said...


This frustrates him greatly as he believes they are holding on to vital evidence which could help him finally find his daughter.

Cox is considering suing West Valley City police because they refuse to release case files and have treated him like he is a 'meddling parent rather than a veteran investigator', he said.

'I was the victim's father, a parent. The idea was, "We can't trust him. He's a civilian, not capable of grasping the intricacies of police work". In reality, I was a veteran investigator.

'But I wasn't a cop. I didn't carry a gun. I understood why they didn't include me. They had to do the investigation. But their look always said, "You're not one of us".'
Mike Powell - no relation - a deputy police chief in West Valley City, explained their decision to distance him to the LA Times.

'Just because he was an FAA investigator doesn't make him part of this investigation. It wasn't prudent to tell him everything that was going on,' he said.

'There are aspects to this case that are not for public consumption. We have to respect the privacy of certain individuals.'

Cox has turned his home in Puyallup into his headquarters where he looks through case files, works on tips from the public and writes his blog. He is considering getting a cadaver dog to help him in his search.

His blogs also encourage women with abusive husbands to get help.

And as he searches, he still speaks of Susan like she is alive.

'She's a very happy person, the kind who'd find a roomful of manure and say all this means is there's got to be a pony in here somewhere,' he said, using the present tense.

Cox is not ready to give up. He has had no satisfaction of a conviction for either his daughter or grandsons and has not had the closure of a funeral. So he continues to spend his days searching and hoping.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395014/Susan-Powells-father-wont-search-daughter.html

Anonymous said...

why do you seem so okay with everything. you answer these questions it seems without emotion. what you have been through is tough and you had a lot of peoole praying for you, in fact I did. It just seems so weird that everything that has happened to you doesnt seem to effect you at all
I'm trying to stay strong. And get out the truth. You don't know I could be crying answering these questions at the moment. You can show real emotion over social media. Do you really think I would be Ohkay with being kidnapped and hurt Nd finding out my dog lil brother and mom was killed.? Your f***ing crazy.

"I would be okay with being kidnapped and hurt" are FRAMED WORDS.

I also caught...you changing the words! You're not allowed to say it for them! Ohkay?!

Anonymous said...

Where WAS she when THEY were being horrifically murdered?? ...maybe she witnessed it;

Anonymous said...

OT: re Hannah Anderson, from today's news...


LAKESIDE, Calif. (KABC) -- A new search warrant was released in the Hannah Anderson kidnapping case, as the teen who was at the center of the multi-state Amber Alert made her first public appearance.

The warrant details more than 50 items found on James DiMaggio's property and burned-out home. Among the items found were boxes of ammunition, arson wire, incendiary devices, two used condoms and a handwritten note, according to the warrant. Details about the contents of that note were not released.

The warrant also listed separately "letters from Hannah." No further details on those letters were provided.

Hannah Anderson's mother, Christina, and brother, Ethan, were allegedly murdered by DiMaggio and then burned inside his home in Boulevard. On Wednesday, unsealed search warrants said the two were tortured before they were killed.

The 16-year-old made her first public appearance since being rescued by FBI agents in a remote area of Idaho. She attended a fundraiser for her family in Lakeside at a restaurant managed by the mother of one of Hannah Anderson's classmates.


Clipped from - http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news%2Fstate&id=9207924

john said...

OT..

Hannah Anderson braves spotlight less than a WEEK after ordeal and thanks her supporters as father says she's 'happy to be home'
Abduction victim was seen attending a fundraiser for her family, making it her first public outing since being freed less than a week ago
Comes the same day as new search warrants made public that list piles of evidence that the first responders collected at DiMaggio's burnt house
'LETTERS FROM HANNAH' AMONG THE EVIDENCE AT HER KIDNAPPERS HOUSE HOUSE, along with 'possible blunt force weapons' and bomb making materials.

Hannah's mother Christina had a DNA test in her burnt car, raising more questions about their relationship..


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395276/Out-public-time-Kidnapping-survivor-Hannah-Anderson-spotted-attending-fundraiser-dead-mother-brother.html#ixzz2c6gd8MWi
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Anonymous said...

Yep, you watch...it will all come out that she was in a sexual relationship with him, and thought, as most girls her age do that he was the end all and be all..that he could give her a queens life, and her mother found out about it. DNA test kit? I bet that really set them off, hence the murders....I think shes trying to cover her culpability..her statements don't make sense..as a few of you have already noticed. so sad..

Anonymous said...

That's probably why she changed the appearance of her hands; blue or pink? I wonder what happened to her old nails...

Anonymous said...

Mark Redwine said investigators from multiple law enforcement agencies came to his door with a search warrant Wednesday afternoon.
Finally Mark murdered Dylan in November!

Yukari said...

Hannah´s statements remind me a lot of those by Natascha Kampusch, the Austrian girl who had been abducted at age 10 and held prisoner by her abducter until she was 18. She, too, seems very unemotional about the entire ordeal, refuses to answer questions if they had a sexual relationship and has a very conflicted attitude towards her family and her kidnapper. Of course the two cases are very different but reading Hannah´s statements, the parallels struck me. There may be similar experiences/coping mechanisms at work.

Anonymous said...

Yukari...it's weird that's she's been through horror, yet she' alone online. I wonder why the FBI is allowing her to be alone in the aftermath of the horror she's experienced.

Anonymous said...

Probably because the FBI is lame. They're notorious for being inept.At least they got her safely home...why in the world they failed to provide follow-up care might be typical of their callousness.

Anonymous said...

Thank-you Yukai for pointing out that Hannah is a young victim. Her time with a psychopath has clearly changed her life.

Anonymous said...

If Hannah is pregnant she needs help.

Anonymous said...

"i am the one true god"

so there is more than one.
must have been a discrepancy as to who was the "true" one.
i detect deception.
if he were for real the one true god, he would not have to say it, and we wouldn't have to say it for him.

Anonymous said...

at age 10 and held prisoner by her abducter until she was 18


so you are implying that this dude been having sex with hannah for many years or did she get stockholm syndrome over night?

Anonymous said...

I don't know what everyone thinks can happen with that DNA test kit. I used to work in a DNA testing lab, and there is not a lab around that will accept semen swabs through the mail, etc. There is a chain of custody that has to be observed for that sort of thing. YES there are paternity testing kits, but who do you think Mom was checking? She couldn't check to see if Hannah was pregnant with that. If Hannah HAD been pregnant, DNA could not be tested (due to ethical concerns) until AFTER the baby was born, and then Jim would have to submit willingly to a test, which would be done under court order. Mom could not have pulled that off without his consent. There is absolutely nothing she could have done with the DNA testing kit if there was no baby. It's not like she could swab her daughter's vagina for sperm, or his underwear, or her underwear. No lab would accept that without completed informed consent authorizations.
We can let go of the DNA testing kit. It doesn't logically lead anywhere.

Anonymous said...

P.S. Swabs can only be used on saliva. If Hannah had had a miscarriage, a hospital would have needed to be involved to send the products of conception in for paternity testing, and in order to compel Jim the cops would have had to be involved also, in a criminal charge.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @7:10
Check your history books and you will find that the pagans worshiped the Sun God, and others, including animals. hence God's need to use the term 'true.'

Anonymous said...

hence God's need to use the term 'true.' is this the analysis n Genesis? Telling what God needs? Very strange.

dadgum said...

re the DNA..
was there some question regarding the father of either Erica or her brother? Have seen this before with 'longtime family friends'..just a possibility.

Also..is the cat she is talking about giving away Jim's? Strange, though teens do strange things online..

dadgum said...

I have Erica on my mind..Hannah..

Anonymous said...

peter:
would this fall under the same principal as "because"? Should we highlight it in blue? Seems to me...

'He had a gun and threatened to kill me and anyone who tried to help,' she wrote.

Anonymous said...

Christ Crucified Is God’s Power and Wisdom

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”[c]
20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

Anonymous said...

It bears repeating
Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

STOP talking bollocks Observer

Jen said...

HI Dadgum-

This is far more likely than anything to do with Hanna, as was correctly pointed out up thread...a swab would serve no purpose in the Hanna/DiMaggio situation (unless it was a stunt of sorts, meaning the mother suspected something and used the idea that she 'had proof' to try to get a confession).

I'm not ready to believe yet that Hanna was complicit in her mom/brothers murder. Their relationship was clearly inappropriate, (whether by her consented participation or not). But if their goal was to kill those standing in their way and run off together, it couldn't be reached by leaving her father alive.

At this point anything is possible, but I have to point out that even IF Hanna WAS a willing participant in a relationship with DiMaggio, she was a victim of grooming. This man had known her for her whole life, he knew her home life, her insecurities, and her parents, which is a powerful tool to a predator. When she was out of sorts with her parents (as all teengers are at times) he could step in and sympathize/play her savior. For example: 'I can't believe your Mom/Dad is being such a jerk..he/shewon't let u _____...let me talk to them, maybe they'll let me take u, etc'. This type of behavior would build an alliance with him, and cause major problems with her parents providing discipline and boundaries.

Randie said...

WAIT! DON'T DISMISS THE DNA KIT!

Someone up above said: "We can let go of the DNA testing kit. It doesn't logically lead anywhere."

Incorrect, the DNA testing is not void...it was there for a reason.

I have used these kits. Both times were to test myself and another gal if she was my half sister (on my dad's side). They send you the kit (which is small. Two envelopes, two swabs and instrustion) and the cost was around 400.00....

Why would she have that in her car?

She was wanting to know if two people were related. Such as was her son actually Dimaggio's? (They all were old family friends) Was Hannah actually Dimaggio's daughter? Or it even could be the mom herself was testing on herself and someone else to see if they were a siblings, like I did. There are a multitude of reasons why that kit would be in her car.

Randie said...

Jen, I agree with you there was plenty of time in the past for this creep to "groom" Hannah. Get her to do whatever he wanted.

dadgum said...

Randie..agree..I have seen this a couple of times, and it can lead to a lot of anger when the question comes up.

At 16 in CA she is under age and cannot agree to sex, esp with such an age difference. She trusted him for years, as did her father. Perfect set up for a creep. Tragic. I hope there is counseling for her and her dad.

He was described as a 'big kid'..which can lead to him saying he understands her when parents don't. Ugh..

Hobnob said...

It seems more and more people each day are doubting her version of events, that was was kidnapped rather than a willing partner.

Most are picking up on her language in her q&a session and a lot are picking up on her strange behavior on being found.

The public know there is an expected behavior and language and are seeing in her case, the unexpected.

They may not know exactly why they are getting feelings of her involvement, they know something is off.
It is pretty blatant if even those with no SA experience or boddy language teaching are seeing what we are seeing.

I'm trying to stay strong. And get out the truth. You don't know I could be crying answering these questions at the moment.

Note she tells us she COULD be crying NOT that she IS crying.

Shelley said...

If she did really say "We're in trouble now" that is a very damming statement.
She is now connecting herself to this man. She was with him for too short of a period of time to have Stockholm syndrome. So I am just not buying that in any way. She connected herself to him AND to the “trouble”.
Also an odd statement….. “for not trying harder to save them” to me seems that she was very aware they had been murdered. If you had no idea, then her statement would have been, “I wish I had known his intensions or I wish I could have done something”. Especially since she has stated she was forced to go with him.
And these photos she’s putting out there, it’s like she just got back from vacation and is back on line taking selfies. Sorry, teenager or not, this is not normal for someone who was kidnaped, feared for her life and then found out her mom and little brother were brutally murdered. I know everyone always says everyone handles grief different…but I say it all the time in response to that… YES THEY DO. Innocent people show grief. Guilty people do not. This is not a navy seal or a 20 year cop who is used to horrible things. She is a young girl who seems to have come from a normal family. Normal does not equate to no emotions or fear after such a horrible ordeal. And, it’s not like this went on for years as I think that puts people in a different mind set.

And the day trips with this man that creeped her out. AGAIN, NO! That would not happen.
I guess overall, I just don’t get this family dynamic. If she was creeped out by this man, how did everyone else not see it? I don’t believe people just one day go from being totally normal to just freak out. Now, maybe if your child was murdered and you got your hands on the person that did it. Ok. But were expected to believe this man was so close to the family yet no one saw a single sign something was off and he just woke up one day and turned into a murderer and kidnapper. There were signs. I am sure of that. But I think they were ignored. It happens often.
So to that, we need to pay attention. I have a son. I am VERY aware who he feels comfortable around and who he does not. He has an older brother from his dads prior relationship and I see how he acted around him his last visit and could see that he was not totally comfortable around him. Because of that, I sat him down alone one on one and talked to him about his feelings. It took a while for him to tell me, but he did. I had to explain to him that he could tell me anything and that if he EVER felt uncomfortable or was hurt in any way, that he can tell mom will protect him no matter what.
He told me that his brother is mean to him at times. Now, he is 5 his brother is 16 and they do not live together and see each other only a few times a year as he lives in another city so this is not normal sibling rivalry between kids that live together and have a comfort level together. Also, my son is very well behaved (we get compliments all the time so not just my opinion). He respectful of his brothers privacy, does not get into his things, bug or pester him… So the mean issue really concerned me. AND, because of that, I don’t leave him alone with his brother and I always pay attention to their interactions and have stepped in when I felt his older brother was not treating him right.
So to me, I think as parents especially we owe it to our kids to pay attention. They may not always tell us something is wrong but if you pay attention you won’t need them to tell you. You will know something is off.
There had to be signs that this man was struggling with demons and if some of the suspicions are right and Hanna did have a relationship with him….The signs would have been there for that as well. It’s hard to hide intimacy when 2 people are always together with the others. Things slip. Even if it’s just a look. Pay attention.

Yukari said...

Anon at 7:12 am

The "at age 10 and held prisoner by her abducter until she was 18" was referring to Natascha Kampusch.

I didn´t want to imply DiMaggio had a long-time sexual relationship with Hannah before all this happened.

Shelley said...

And just off Hanna for one sec, and I promise, I am not accusing her dad of anything, but the man does not seem devastated by this. I actually thought at first that it was maybe his ex-wife and only Hanna was his child. So when I found out that was his wife and son, that didn’t sit well with me based on his calm relaxed manner. Maybe there is more to this family dynamic than we know at this point that could explain the behavior. But there is something beyond what it appears to be.

john said...

Shelley @12:59,i totally agree with you,i was of the same thought about her Dads lack of emotion..

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
so because some moron on facebook called in a tip because they forgot to take their meds and freaked themselves out over nothing, mark redwine's house gets trashed by LE and he is harassed once again. he is innocent, leave him alone. take your meds.

August 15, 2013 at 9:43 PM





Um are you one of his poop friends?

Sorry, "innocent" is also not he did not kill Dylan! He is innocent and will remain so unlit/unless is he is convicted.

Shelley said...

john said...
Shelley @12:59,i totally agree with you,i was of the same thought about her Dads lack of emotion..




I do think if we can learn more about the family dynamics, it will tell us more about what went wrong here. Dads lack of emotion could even be why he didnt see anything off with the sitution.

But we will have to see if we learn much more or if LE just calls this a murder and kinapp case creepy friend and close the case out.

I hope they dont. But I think that Hannas posts online will be the one that if anything does come out of it that bites her in the back side.

Anonymous said...

Anakis said: I find it interesting re: items that were found at DiMaggio's house that was reported to have 'burned to ashes'. Yet,letters from Hannah, clothing, toothbrushes, and used condoms were found. How did these items survive the fire, unless DiMaggio stored them in a fireproof container? Evidence collected should be telling. I hope that evidence collected in the recent search of Mark Redwine's house will be telling.

Anonymous said...

What if son was DiMaggio? Wife could have recently informed him. IF he and Hannah were involved, that scenario could be something he didn't want Hannah finding out.

Anonymous said...

Anakis: @ Anon 3:41: Speculation only: Did Christina confront DiMaggio re: paternity? Did she have the DNA test in her car to try to prove that?

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

so because some moron on facebook called in a tip because they forgot to take their meds and freaked themselves out over nothing, mark redwine's house gets trashed by LE and he is harassed once again. he is innocent, leave him alone. take your meds."

Maybe if he took a polygraph, maybe if he stopped trashing his exwife, maybe if he stopped being an idiot and actually admit something happened with Dylan. You need to take your meds because you can't see what is right in front of you. Mark innocent???? Then let him prove it. Hes a nasty excuse of a man who treats people like they are rubbish. He is above everyone else.

Anonymous said...

"We're in trouble now"

Also needs to be taken in context. If you watch the video of the horse riders, he explains that the second time they encountered Hannah & DiMaggio, Hannah was dipping her feet in the lake. He said to her something to the effect of, why are you putting your feet in the lake, don't you know there are fish in there?

She may have been responding to his comment. Or she may have been thinking that DiMaggio was going to harm them all since they had been found by the riders.

Hobnob said...


Anonymous said...

"We're in trouble now"

Also needs to be taken in context. If you watch the video of the horse riders, he explains that the second time they encountered Hannah & DiMaggio, Hannah was dipping her feet in the lake. He said to her something to the effect of, why are you putting your feet in the lake, don't you know there are fish in there?

She may have been responding to his comment. Or she may have been thinking that DiMaggio was going to harm them all since they had been found by the riders.


If this was the case she would have used the 2nd person pronoun YOU'RE as in relating to dimaggio.

The fact she use we're in relation to being in trouble shows unity and co-operation. It shows unity and sharing in relation to trouble.


if she thought dimaggio was going to harm them and herself at that moment why did she not shout a warning? they were on horseback and there were 4 of them,
If she thought they were in trouble she would have had nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Why would she try and conceal her face or not give some kind of visual warning?

her strange behavior comes back to the 13 phones calls that day to each other beofre turning them off at the same time (to conceal their location?) the handwritten letters to each other and the multi day trips, all of which contradict the claim by a friend that hannah was creeped out by him. You don't contact or go away with someone you are creeped out by,

Deejay said...

Let's not over analyze this kid- Even if at some point she was flattered by attention- this was clearly horrific for her. She said - 'He got what he deserved'. Do we really need to know more? She is never going to be ok- never. Her guilt will last her whole life- when she marries, has her children, when she wishes she had her mom to talk to. She is a kid- she hasn't processed this. Let's leave her statements alone...

Pak31 said...

Shelley said...
And just off Hanna for one sec, and I promise, I am not accusing her dad of anything, but the man does not seem devastated by this. I actually thought at first that it was maybe his ex-wife and only Hanna was his child. So when I found out that was his wife and son, that didn’t sit well with me based on his calm relaxed manner. Maybe there is more to this family dynamic than we know at this point that could explain the behavior. But there is something beyond what it appears to be.
August 16, 2013 at 12:59 PM------------Shelley, I am in total agreement with you. I saw her dad a couple of times and if I didn't know it was her dad I never would have known. It was almost like he wasn't shocked at all or he knew they were "together". He seemed calm, like he knew she wasn't in danger.

Pak31 said...

Anonymous Deejay said...
Let's not over analyze this kid- Even if at some point she was flattered by attention- this was clearly horrific for her. She said - 'He got what he deserved'. Do we really need to know more? She is never going to be ok- never. Her guilt will last her whole life- when she marries, has her children, when she wishes she had her mom to talk to. She is a kid- she hasn't processed this. Let's leave her statements alone...
August 16, 2013 at 10:55 PM------------No, that is what we are here for, to analyze her statements. Sorry, but if my mom, bother and dog were killed I would be a basketcase. It would take me a very long time to get over that. This isn't event mentioning being kidnapped on top of the family killings. To be kidnapped at gunpoint, forced to go on the run, then to be saved but learn your family is dead and dean in a horrific manner I'd be in shock. What did SHE do? She went and had her nails done!!! Then she did her hair and makeup and posed for pictures on the web. Sorry but that is NOT normal. This is why most of us can't leave her statements alone. If she IS innocent in all of this then she must lack human compassion. She hasn't shown one ounce of sorrow, true sorrow, for her family being killed and no longer in her life.

LC said...

Anon @ 7:14 AM ~
What if the DNA Test Kit shows that DiMaggio is Hannah's FATHER?

Anonymous said...

Update: A DNA swab test kit was found at the burned-out property of suspect James Lee DiMaggio, according to NBC San Diego. [Editor's note: NBC San Diego now says the DNA test kit belonged to law-enforcement investigators and was not found on DiMaggio's property.]

Anonymous said...

Randie:
We can let the DNA testing go because the cops said it was theirs.

The testing you are referring to is a 'sibship' and it is not illuminating in terms of paternity, only in terms of whether or not the siblings are related.

Randie said...

To Anonymous at 12:04

Where is your link to info is was the cops?

It was found in "the Mother's car."

Anonymous said...

Hannah and her brother are clearly siblings, their mouths have a specific angle when smiling, nordo they have any features of DiMaggio. The fathers DNA wes used to identify the burnt brothers remains. This knowledge when publicised ended the killers family wanting DNA tests done on Hannah. The DNA tests found would have been for some other reason.
Hannah's responses are partly numbness and reasonable if one can respond that way. She made it out alive and may as well live as alive as she can as succumbing to overwhelming grief won't bring anyone back. There isn't anything abnormal about clues of being a bit more distressed by innocent trusting animals ahead of humans. I was concerned for the cat Princess more than the humans und so relieved when I found out she was rescued and rehomed to the killers sister. The comment we're in trouble is reasonable because Hannah knew DiMaggio would end up in a suicidal shoot out, thus risking her if he flipped out and it was smart then to pretend team to deter him from a reactive taking her out to readily. Her father did express massive relief once Hannah was saved. He'd be an idiot to react too much publicly in case DiMaggio checked media reports. He needed to play on DIMaggio in acting as if he may have some remaining trust over Hannah to hopefully play on past trust that DiMaggio may be pulled towards living up to.
Some mothers just don't click with their daughters and can lack sufficient compassion in dealing with them while overall underlyingly adequate in most respects resulting in the daughter having love for the mother but not liking her too much. Hence at one time Hannah reached out to DiMaggio at one stage, but retreating once becoming uncomfortable with his emergent attraction. Hannah is a young type of teenager, not the kid to be into demanding old men. She's very into a peer needs stage and hence seeking contact via the net.Search DiMaggios father who in early middle age did much the same persuing a teen who was horrified by him plus later his father also became suicidal.There are men who are giving for a time but are partly expectant of sexual rewards becoming resenful and irrational when not reciprocated by that desire. He probably had once hoped for more from Hannah's mother sensing cracks in her marriage and then shifted to Hannah. Such men who can play mate for ages don't give clues and can seem to accept at first a rebbutal once they indicate greater intrest, yet keep seething and reconstructing justifications for feeling used and doing payback or even getting more forceful on a more vulnerable person. It's hard for the first target to see this until they display their angry disappointment, but easier to realise and defend against for a following target once hearing the bitter way they speak of the former persons whom they had a seemingly friendly helping role for many years. Like this killer such men seem helpful to their target family and many others as if ther are happiest living that way to fullfill their personal social partnerless void. Most people wouldn't think of the need to be wary, or are aware that few men give to non relatives for no form of returns. The unstated price underlyingly may be very high in these situations.

Anonymous said...

Hannas comment's about wishing she'd tried harder to save her mother and brother most likely come in the context of DiMaggio not returning to them and indicating they were going elsewhere and her raising the fact that her mother was likely to react, likewise her brother. DiMaggio could have indicated that it was not anymore an issue as he'd made sure they were temporarily tied up and hence not able to do anything about his new plans for Hannah. That would sound disturbing to Hannah, but in not knowing they were set for a timed incineration she'd focus on her safety assuming later at some stage they'd be found or released. On the otherhand she'd later realise that maybe if she reacted while in civilization that disturbed way of dealing with her family may have been better dealt with drastic escape efforts and maybe succeed in getting help sooner.Her comment of "end that way" is simply about the brutality of their end, rather than desiring an end to her family.It wouldn't be much better, but far less horrific, extended, terrifying and cruel had he just did a well placed bullet through them. Nor left her feeling she could have or ought to have done anything before a timed incineration took place.People ought to lay off in their projections of suspicions on Hanna's culpability or fabricating her as having sinister attitudes. She is a fairly young for her age peer focused teenager who needs to get on with her life as nothing can undo the awful loss. Focusing on the loss and horror would only impair her already loss impacted life to no sensible outcome. She survived and she ought to keep on living as normaly as she can. Being grief consumed won't bring anything back and it would leave the killer's legacy more millage in taking from her capacity to live any life she was spared to have.

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"VICTORY, S.B.T.C" = *Strangle Bind Torture Children* & Shadowgov Breaks The Case

Psalm 118:27 "Bind the sacrifice with cords to the horns of the altar."

"When the suspect's background, post-murder behavior, and physical evidence are put together, the identity of this monster will be clear to someonewho knows him."
~ The Ramseys

....AND WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO THAT MONSTER IS = *R*O*B*E*R*T *A*D*O*L*P*H *E*N*Y*A*R*T = *6*6*6* = *DAXIS* = *SON of SATAN* waiting for the "Small Foreign Faction" DNA Secrets to be Revealed & Justice to be served to the "Group of Individuals" responsible for this notorious crime and many more crimes against children.

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