Saturday, August 3, 2013

Mother Fed Rat Poison to Child Cuts Deal



A Chinese immigrant charged with killing her baby by eating rat poison while she was pregnant pleaded guilty Friday to a misdemeanor count of criminal recklessness as part of a deal with prosecutors.

Bei Bei Shuai, 36, pleaded guilty to criminal recklessness and was sentenced to time served, which was 178 days, Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. Charges of murder and feticide were dropped.
Curry said he decided to accept the lesser charge because a number of evidentiary rulings by the court had hurt the prosecution’s case. He says he decided to accept the lesser charge rather than to appeal those decisions.

There were evidentiary rulings that would have made our case difficult to proceed,” he said. “We felt it was appropriate to resolve it with the plea and with some acknowledgement of culpability and everyone can move on.”

A message was left at the office of Shuai’s attorney, Linda Pence, by the AP late Friday afternoon seeking comment.

Prosecutors had argued that Shuai, a Shanghai native, killed her child by eating rat poison in December 2010, when she was eight months pregnant. Shuai gave birth to Angel on Dec. 31. The baby died three days later.

Among the rulings that hurt the prosecution’s case was one in January when a judge ruled that Dr. Jolene Clouse, who performed the autopsy on newborn Angel Shuai, didn’t consider other possible causes for the brain bleeding that caused her death, including a drug that Shuai received while she was in the hospital.

The case drew international attention from reproductive rights advocates who contended it could set a precedent by which pregnant women could be prosecuted for smoking or other behavior that authorities deem dangerous to their unborn child. About 80 organizations have filed friend-of-the-court briefs on Shuai’s behalf, and more than 10,000 people from Australia to New York have signed an online petition supporting her.

But Curry said those arguments weren’t a factor in the case.

“While well-intended, those assertions have been completely incorrect from the start. There was never any intention to monitor pregnancies. As has been pointed out on more than one occasion, Indiana appellate courts have already weighed in on those issues,” he said.
The plea agreement states that the two sides believe the conviction “will not trigger adverse immigration consequences,” and if it does the plea agreement will be set aside.
The trial was scheduled to begin Sept. 3.

39 comments:

10,000 evil rats said...

10,000 "people"signed an online petition supporting her?????? The dirty rats.God help this messed up World.

sha said...

I can't imagine being in such a desperate state of mind to eat rat poison as an abortion method. What a horrible situation, but how much do people want this woman punished when it's okay to have abortions past the time when some pre-mies live? She needs some kind of help.

Anonymous said...

"mother fed rat poison to child' is misleading.....if she ate it herself then technically you could say she fed it to a fetus

Peter Hyatt said...

The fact that the child was pre-born, within her, has caused the controversy.

Life feels so cheap sometimes.

Step away from it and think:

if she had a license, and used a different method, she would have been paid for what she did, and not put in prison.

patrice said...

It's cruel what she did to her unborn baby. Now why didn't she die from eating rat poison? Yes, 10,000 people signed a petition supported her- yes, our world is wacked.

lane said...

Suicide attempt and the death of Shuai's child
Shuai, a Shanghai native, immigrated to the U.S. in the early 2000s with her then-husband. In late 2010, after her marriage fell apart, she became pregnant with the child of another man. When he abandoned her, Shuai attempted to kill herself by taking rat poison. She survived, but her daughter Angel died on 3 January 2011 – 33 weeks after her conception, ten days after the poisoning and two days after her birth in an emergency caesarian section.[3]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bei_Bei_Shuai

lane said...

(snip)
But, Curry said, those circumstances also included a note that Shuai wrote before taking the rat poison, indicating she specifically wanted to kill the baby as well as herself.

The saga began Dec. 23, 2010, when a friend of Shuai's found her in her car at a gas station in Anderson. He thought she looked ill and suggested he take her to his home so his wife could help her.

Shuai later acknowledged she ate rat poison in her Indianapolis home to kill herself because her boyfriend -- the father of the child she was carrying -- had left her.

She first went to an Anderson hospital but was transferred to Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis, where she gave birth to a daughter, Angel, on Dec. 31 via Cesarean section. Angel was put on life support, but those machines later were removed and she died Jan. 3 from bleeding in her brain.

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2614301

Anonymous said...

Now why didn't she die from eating rat poison?
?????
Gross story!!

Anonymous said...

Angel obviously was old enough to survive without his mother, I recall my own pregnancies; unborn babies have a mind of their own. It seems that she made the choice of suicide for him, yet he struggled to live?

Anonymous said...

Angel was old enough to survive without her mother...Wrong ! Angel was trapped in her mothers womb! Angel was completely dependent on her mother making all choices. Angel could kick, sense light open and close her eye-lids and was beginning to become chubby for birth.

Anonymous said...

This woman is a nasty evil cow.I pray it gets sent to hell,Observer

Lemon said...

Poison…pill...semantics...

10,000 evil rats said...

Why was my "abortion"comment Deleted?are we in north korea?????? Cheeky twat!

10,000 evil rats said...

Ooooops ,i am on Predictive text,replace "tw**"with "twit"im very sorry,no malice was meant.

10,000 evil rats said...

She has a rats face.Thats why it lived.

lemon fan said...

:0(

shmi said...

This woman is obviously mentally ill. I think she would have eaten rat poison whether she was pregnant or not. She is a danger to herself and others. Somebody lock her up and give her a mental evaluation.
A horrible thing to do to your unborn child. But she was trying to kill herself. How could she have known rat poison would kill the baby, but not her.

I don't understand what "pre-born,
within her" means.

shmi said...

Do we (US) have mental hospitals?

I don't know of any in my town.

dadgum said...

shmi.. most county hospitals have at least several beds in a locked mental unit for evaluation and short stays. It depends on the state and population. There are larger mental hospitals serving areas in the state(with units for adults and children), as well as smaller residential treatment facilities with more specific services.. Most folks don't know how the system works unless they have some connection to it.

Things have changed over the years..once someone is not in an acute crisis, or they are stabilized with medication, they are discharged. For the severely ill, this often means back onto the streets, where they decompensate, cannot obtain meds, are not supervised, and will be again hospitalized.

sella35 said...

OT sorry if a repost about baby Elaina, the two year old missing.

http://www.toledofreepress.com/2013/06/21/relatives-of-angela%E2%80%99s-cellmate-contact-fbi-with-tip/

john said...

OT..

Alex Rodriguez Talks PEDs, MLB Suspensions, Future Plans After Minor League Game.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/03/alex-rodriguez-mlb-peds-contract-trenton_n_3700251.html

Anonymous said...

Feticide (or foeticide) is an act that causes the death of a fetus.

In the U.S., most crimes of violence are covered by state law, not federal law. Thirty-five (35) states currently recognize the "unborn child" (the term usually used) or fetus as a homicide victim, and 25 of those states apply this principle throughout the period of pre-natal development.

If this were really the case, wouldn't most doctors who perform abortions be in jail? I think maybe the books still list fetecide as a crime, but like those old laws we laugh at now..(Feeding a horse a hamburger while walking backwards on sundays, is against the law in some states)....I wish this law wouldn't end up the way it does with another dead fetus.

Anonymous said...

O/T

John, or someone experienced care to do SA on this one...

-No idea how an open honest debate over art can insult a buyer. The more one learns, the better I would think.-

Thanks.

sha said...

This woman is from a totally different country and background than we are, whether we are americans aussies or brits,....this woman comes from a different type of place, and the shame and stigma of not having her husband around, and then being pregnant with someone else's baby...well the shame could have been too much. don't judge her by your own life.

john said...

Hi sha,i don't think people will have much sympathy with what she has done, be it cultural differences or not.

But hey what do i know..

john said...

Hi Anon 6:25.

Maybe members would look at it if you had a link. :-)

Sella35 said...

@ sha said...
This woman is from a totally different country and background than we are, whether we are americans aussies or brits,....this woman comes from a different type of place, and the shame and stigma of not having her husband around, and then being pregnant with someone else's baby...well the shame could have been too much. don't judge her by your own life.

August 4, 2013 at 7:41 AM
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No excuse in my opinion. First, if you migrate to a new country you should learn and respect the laws of the country.

It reminds me of the dad in Texas who was from a different country/culture and him, his son and his brother did an "honor" killing against a young woman who was too "westernized"...do you think there is an excuse for him, since he grew up different than our laws here in the USA? His excuse was shame and stigma that the young girl brought on his family. He is still rotting in jail, where this girl belongs as well, IMO.

john said...

Hi Sella35,

I happened over here in the UK a few years ago.

I think Peter done an SA on it.

The parents murdered their daughter because she was becoming to westernised.

The last straw with her parents was,their daughter had a t-shirt on that revealed her arms.

Shafilea Ahmed’s father 'had briefcase full of gold bars so he could flee justice at any moment'
Iftikhar Ahmed, 52, and wife Farzana, 49, of Warrington, Cheshire, suffocated the 17-year-old with a plastic bag
Judge: 'Shafilea was squeezed between two cultures - the culture she wanted to embrace and the one you wanted to impose on her'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184750/Shafilea-Ahmeds-father-briefcase-gold-bars-flee-justice-moment.html

stomp on it's head said...

signatures from Australia, look this up, they are also trying to pass a law that it is ok to kill a baby after it is born, calling it, after-birth abortion.

Anonymous said...

U dirty scumbag.god forgive u for that sick viewpoint.scum

Anonymous said...

Evil ozzy turds.

Anonymous said...

That was my first thought. Why would anyone stand by this monster?

Yet people can't stand up for what's right?

Shelley

sha said...

I feel sorry for this woman; I think I'd feel sorry for just about anyone who thought their life sucked just SO BAD they had to eat rat poison and kill themselves (let alone themselves and their little fetus).

And I'm pretty sure that anyone with a lick of sense in their head knows that PUNISHING someone for trying to kill themselves is just ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

OH SHUT UP u Evil shit.

Anonymous said...

Turnips

Anonymous said...

Turds Ur a dogs turds@ Sha

Anonymous said...

Sha must be a chimp.

Excruciating Headache said...

Sella35, You clearly have no idea how difficult it is to learn all of the laws of a country.

This woman probably would have done the same thing regardless of whether she believed it to be legal or not.

How sad that she didn't consider the feelings of the soon-to-be outraged pro-lifers when she poisoned herself and her baby!

A little empathy goes a long way. If she had been shown some early in her pregnancy, the outcome might have been vastly different. How about being a little Christ-like by showing her some now?

Sella35 said...

@Ex-headache- I assume you know this person in rl? You say she was shown no "empathy" from early in her pregnancy from pro-lifers (how do you know this, unless you are a rl friend?), so you must know her on a name-to-name basis? Since you two are so close, was she shown "empathy" from pro-deathers, in her early stages of pregnancy?

Here is my issue, I have placed a baby for adoption, and I have had an abortion. I think you are trying to say I am some sort of person who has never shown her empathy, based on the fact that I said no excuses. I am empathetic about her situation, because I lived it...i think you got sympathy and empathy confused?? I have never had to eat rat-poison to kill my child, so I can sympathize with her.

EX-Head- I know that no one has ever walked in my shoes. I have never walked in anyone's shoes. What I do know is that we have laws, every country and state and province does...if we live some place we follow the laws....

example- I wake up every morning and think.."Gosh, I could go rob a bank and have money! Then I think of this thing called a consequence. I weigh it out in my mind....get killed, go to jail, etc..then I decide okay today I will not break the LAW, and rob that bank and I will stay poor.

I also know she has no excuse. I have lived in 7 countries, I have traveled and stayed in all but 2 U.S.A. states (Maine and Hawaii)..and I have followed all the laws every where I have been, whether they were federal or state laws.

I do not know if she was suffering from an illness, but I know that in my mind it is still NO EXCUSE. Yes cultures are different. I grew up in the south where we ate gravy made out of meat juices (bacon grease), then I moved North where they eat gravy made from butter, flour and milk. Every where is different and though I hate "Northern" gravy..that is what I cook to please the yankees in my life.

PS watch - stoning of sonia m and then tell me do you have empathy or sympathy.