Friday, November 2, 2012

Question Within Open Statement

This is Lance Armstrong from 2007.

Note when someone asks a question in a statement that the subject does not wait for an answer. 

It may be that the subject is reliving the event, and speaking to himself. 

2007:

Armstrong forcefully denies all these claims. "Say you cheated in '99, and got away with one," 
he told SI last week. "Remember, in 2000 there was not a test for EPO, 
and we clobbered everybody. Some would say the entire field was on EPO.
 But only one athlete, and only one team, was federally investigated in France, 
had all their samples confiscated and got them tested, by three separate laboratories.
 So, in 2001, you're saying to yourself, I'm not taking that chance again.
"Then how was it, in 2001, that I went faster? And in 2002 faster still.
 [2003] was a bad year, but in '04 and '05, I never slowed down. 
If I cheated, How did I get away with it?"
When asked point-blank whether he was clean when he won all of his Tours,
 Armstrong told SI: "Absolutely. I won the Tour de France once, twice, seven times, because I
 was the most talented person in the field."

10 comments:

john said...

OT.Peter could you look at paragraph 10,there is no reliable denial.

Savile: Celebs 'Frightened By Police Probe'

Major stars from the 60s and 70s are terrified of being named in connection with the Jimmy Savile child abuse scandal,according to PR guru Max Clifford.

Mr Clifford told Sky News that up to 15 celebrities in Britain and beyond had been in touch with him in recent days to express their fears.

The stars are concerned because of their hedonistic lifestyles when they were at the peak of their fame, when young girls would throw themselves at them, he said.

His comments came as the Savile family released a lengthy statement expressing their horror at the revelations.

Mr Clifford told Sky: "In the last few days, I have had an awful lot of calls and expect to get a lot more - some from very famous people who in the 60s and 70s were in the middle of this music explosion in this country.

"I'm very close friends with a lot of these people and have been for 40 to 50 years. I am in the middle of the media world so I'm the first person they turn to.

"Their lives often depend on popularity and public perception. There are a lot of things that get put out there that have nothing to do with reality but can be very damaging.

"They are all saying that they were totally unaware and they themselves have never done anything remotely like Jimmy Savile. Naturally they are concerned because names are being mentioned - 95% of it is total nonsense but it is happening."

He added: "If you're 19 or 20 and suddenly you become a pop star and a dozen girls burst into your dressing room.. you don't actually sit there and ask for birth certificates."

Mr Clifford said Freddie Starr was one of those who had been in touch and had called him several times.

"Freddie said to me 'look Max, I've done nothing. There's nothing I ever did but I'm worried to death, I've got a bad heart. I'm in a real state"

He added: "There's a lot of people that are very very worried about what is going on"

Mr Clifford's comments came after The Sun newspaper reported that Savile allegedly molested a teenage girl live on TV in 1976.

The woman, then aged 19, was allegedly attacked by Savile during an episode of Top Of The Pops.

The woman, named by the newspaper as Sylvia Edwards, approached a BBC producer immediately after the alleged incident, but was reportedly told to "get lost".

"I felt so embarrassed and ashamed because it was live on TV and all my friends and family were watching," she told the newspaper.

"The worst thing was that he was so casual when he did it. He was committing a sexual assault live on the BBC and no one gave a damn."

Scotland Yard has said their investigation into accusations of abuse by Savile, who died in 2011, now involves around 300 potential victims.

Police have described him as a sexual predator who could have been one of the most prolific paedophiles Britain has ever seen.

The scandal erupted after an ITV documentary at the start of this month broadcast allegations by a string of women who said the Jim'll Fix It star had assaulted them.

It has since emerged that seven alleged victims contacted four separate police forces - Surrey, London, Sussex and Jersey - while he was alive but no further action was taken.

A retired police officer has also told Scotland Yard that he investigated Savile in the 1980s while based in west London but did not have enough evidence to proceed.

cont..

john said...

cont....


Commander Peter Spindler said he believed the allegation was of an indecent assault, possibly in a caravan on BBC premises in west London, but officers have still not found the original file.

Another allegation, of inappropriate touching dating back to the 1970s, was made by a woman in 2003, but this was treated as "intelligence" by police because the victim did not want to take action.

Surrey Police submitted a file to the Crown Prosecution Service containing references to four potential offences, including an allegation of indecent assault on a young girl at a children's home.

The allegations related to three potential victims in Surrey and another in Sussex, and Savile was interviewed under caution in 2009, but prosecutors decided there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

The seventh allegation emerged in 2008 when Jersey police received a claim that an indecent assault occurred at children's home Haut de la Garenne in the 1970s.

Again it was decided that there was insufficient evidence to proceed.

Mr Spindler said Savile was "undoubtedly" one of the most prolific sex offenders he had come across and that Operation Yewtree, looking into his alleged crimes, would be a "watershed moment" for child abuse investigations.

Claims have also been made that former DJ Savile, who died last year aged 84, targeted children while they were in hospital.

He had a bedroom at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, an office and living quarters at Broadmoor and widespread access to Leeds General Infirmary.


http://news.sky.com/story/1003415/savile-celebs-frightened-by-police-probe

john said...

OT.

Karen Ward, a woman that ITV News interviewed making allegations about Jimmy Savile, also made allegations about Freddie Starr. She said that he "groped her", that he had a case of "wandering hands," and that it was in Jimmy Savile's dressing room at the BBC.

Freddie Starr himself has strenuously denied this. Over the last few weeks he's given interviews denying this. This is what he had to say a few weeks ago:

Freddie star.

"I never, I never have done. i never would do. Its not..(pause) my style. It's not my, it's not in me to do that."


I,first person pronoun,he is taking ownership.

Never is repeated showing sensetivity.

Never does mean No or i didnt.

"I never have done done"

"Have done"

Is this a embedded confession?

"I never would do"

Never crops up for the third time making it even more sensetive.

"Would Do"

Would do what?

He doesnt tell us so we cant say it for him.

"Its not(pause)my style."

What is it that not his style?

Anything in the negative should be noted..

"Its not my,its not in me to do that"

Broken sentence is there missing information.

Its not its not is repeated,making it sensitive.

"To do that"

He doesnt tell us what "that"is,again we cant say it for him.

When someone says"did you do that"and you have done something similar the usual answer is "No i did this"
So has freddie Star done something that becomes(THIS).??

NO RELIABLE DENIAL..

Anonymous said...

Since it has now been determined that Lance Armstrong was lying about doping all those years gone by, what took you so long to figure it out Peter?

You, of all people, have the least excuse to feel so disappointed to find out after this late date that Lance lied about "never" doping, wouldn't you say?

Anonymous said...

Susan Murphy-Milano died this past Tuesday, October 30th.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2012/10/30/daily-commentary-tuesday-october-30-2012-susan-murphy-milano-loses-her-long-battle-with-cancer/

If you'd like to light a candle for her, this is the addy:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Susan

Anonymous said...

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http://www.facebook.com/#!/susanmurphymilano

Anonymous said...

I followed Peter's blog for about a year now and he has stated earlier that Lance has never issued a reliable denial on his doping. It sucks when someone you look up to turns out not to be what you thought they were. Lance was the most talented however his talent had help from EPO's. I think in his mind he won fair and square because almost everyone in cycling dopes.

Seamus O Riley said...

I was a Lance fan, too, and minimized his drug use thinking that they all did it.

This goes against things I have taught.

Liars are trouble.

He not only used, he appears to have out-used others and we have learned that there were those who did not use that Lance verbally taunted.

But worse than everything is how he sought to destroy others who dared questioned him and used money and lawyers to do so.

He needs to pay back all the money, and go to prison.

Perjury, drug use and a host of other crimes.

Peter

Lis said...

OT John, that is an interesting statement, I think you picked up on something there. Here's my take, fwiw.
Freddie star:

"I never, I never have done. i never would do. Its not..(pause) my style. It's not my, it's not in me to do that."

Never is not reliable denial.
Incomplete sentence, he does not say what he never had done or would do.
"It's not my style" is present tense, might it have been his style in the past?
"It's not my" - incomplete sentence; my what? What was the word that he decided to drop at the last minute?
"It's not in me to do that" again present tense, what about in the past?
"that" is distancing.

Oh, the goings on in the show business world!

Lis said...

Anon, I'm not sure when I first read about Lance on this blog but it seems like quite awhile ago that Peter first covered it.