I hope it is a case of the wheels of justice grinding slowly and not a case of them not grinding at all.
So.... what is the announcement?
the evidence recovered in the remains... in? Does this mean that they have a completed toxicology report confirming the presence of an illicit/illegal drug(s)?
evidence recovered in the remains confirms the circumstantial evidence.--------------really, IN the remains?? you didn't use the word WITH? what do you know that we don't?confirms the circumstantial..... which circumstantial? the drug allegations? the timeline? who was there? or just the fact that she is dead?
Billie made a false report when she reported Hailey missing. Hailey was only missing because she was murdered. Billlie legally should have made a report to law enforcement that Hailey was murdered, not missing and endangered.
Is the announcement today?
A reminder:We are deleting comments daily, and will delete any comment that responses to, or copy/pastes an insult. As Ms. Lemons has said many times...PLease don't feed the trolls.The form of attention seeking through inflammatory comments will continue as long as people respond. As to the Hailey Dunn case, I will update when I can, or when Nancy Grace Show has an announcement. Until then, we all continue to wait for justice.
I have been reading SA for about two years now, always hoping to hear some news of justice for these lost children and sad to say, there has not been alot of good endings or even endings, for that matter. If there is even a possiblility that there is going to be justice for Hailey Dunn, I can be patient and wait it out with all of you. For the troll/trolls, your comments are childish and only make you look foolish and constipated. They are senseless and unnecessary. Get a Life!
Apologies for the OT..Hannah Anderson update:I understand that what she went through must have been heart breaking,and for anyone to loose their Mum and Brother in such a horrific way is unimaginable. But this is case is getting stranger by the day.Was anyone aware of this.?Snipped:In her book, Hoffman also points to the encounter Anderson and her alleged kidnapper, James DiMaggio, had with four horseback riders they came in contact with in the Idaho wilderness. She questions why Anderson did not plead for help."As far as I've read, THEY WERE VISIBLY ARMED AND HE WASN'T ARMED at the time he was holding the cat that they had taken with them, so I don't understand what was going through her head at the time," said Hoffman.http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/hannah-anderson-update-controversial-new-book-written-about-anderson-kidnapping-case#ixzz2h8pVOBsL
Sorry, Peter. You are right. I was writing when you posted your comment.
and the evidence recovered in the remains confirms the circumstantial evidence.There was talk about drugs and there was also speculation that Hailey was pregnant. So not just her remains, but of another?That is purely speculation based on what was said on my part. Nobody knows what was found exactly except the person who found them and he wasn't never able say. But he always made reference to what he *saw*. So clothes (as in what she was wearing), bones, etc. Toxicology isn't exactly seeing something with the naked eye.
*wasn't ever able to say.
@john, i do believe it was said in one of the interviews with the horseback riders that they were armed, but they never said if Jim had any firearms. them mentioning they had firearms but not saying Jim did leads people to believe Jim was unarmed. and due to the fact that he was petting a kitten, he obviously didn't have a rifle in his hand... unless it was that one kitten with an ak47.... and after the horseback rider basically told Jim he was a fool for bringing a cat into the wilderness, drawing in wolves and such, Jim sheepishly hung his head feeling stupid. if Jim did have a firearm, that would have been an opportune time to tell them he had a firearm for protection against wolves... and against gubernment assassins!!
off topicPolice have reportedly identified the mother of the victim of one of New York City's most notorious unsolved murders 22 years after the crime occurred. The New York Times reported that police had identified the mother of "Baby Hope," a young girl between 3 and 5 years old whose remains were found doubled over, tied up, and wrapped in a plastic bag inside a cooler dumped in a wooded area of upper Manhattan on July 23, 1991. She had not been reported as missing by her family, appeared to be malnourished, and tests carried out by law enforcement showed that she had been sexually abused. Police have not released the mother's name, citing the ongoing murder investigation. No one has ever been charged with a crime in connection with the young girl's death. A law enforcement official told the Times they had identified the mother after receiving a tip from a woman who said she had spoken to a woman who mentioned a sister who was killed. Forensic tests confirmed the mother's identity. No other information about the mother was immediately available, though the New York Post reported that she was being questioned by police about her daughter's death. Over the summer, the NYPD announced that they were stepping up their efforts to solve the case. Officers canvassed the Washington Heights and Inwood areas of Manhattan near where the cooler was found, putting up posters and handing out police sketches. A $12,000 reward for information leading to an arrest or conviction is being offered. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/08/nyc-police-identify-mother-11-murder-victim-baby-hope/Once a crime is done it cannot be undone. Sooner or later you will be caught, forensic science advances almost daily, relationships change, family ties weaken. if you told someone or had help can you trust them to stay silent forever? can you rely on the body never being found/identified? Can you trust science not to show you did it?
Hailey Dunn was found dead, not lost or missing.
That post isn't from me. ^
Hannah doesn't exhibit any signs of sorrow for her mother or brother. I can't wait to read Chelsea's book about Hannah and demaggio (sp.).
Toxicology reports on haileys remains should be in by now. It took Missouri 4 months to do my sisters tox report.
Same old shit, nothing new here folks. Either arrest the bastards that killed her or let it go...tons of kids get killed and their parents get away with murder
"We continue to wait for justice for Hailey Dunn and call upon prosecutors to step up and either issue arrest warrants or take this case now to the Grand Jury."Texas Statutes - Chapter 19: ORGANIZATION OF THE GRAND JURY - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/CR/1/19#sthash.q0VnoPYh.dpufhttp://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/CR/1/19http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.19.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_of_Texashttp://www.txdirectory.com/online/da/.......................District Attorney Dana Cooley (Scurry County) 1806 25th Street #400 Snyder, TX 79549-2530 Phone: 325-573-2462 Fax: 325-573-1081 ....................District AttorneyAnn Reed349 Oak Street Room 208 Colorado City, TX 79512-6225 Telephone: (325) 728-3457 Ext.3Fax (432) 756-8697.....................Hardy L. Wilkerson (R)District Attorney (Howard County, Texas)Term Ends: 12-31-2016 District: 118General InformationProfession: Attorney Home Town: Big Spring Birthdate: 02-13-1960Contact and Phone Numbers312 ScurryP.O. Box 149Big Spring, TX 79721(432) 264-2220Fax: (432) 264-2222......................Which county in Texas, Peter?Scurry County, where Hailey's remains were found?Mitchell County, where Hailey last resided, and last seen alive?Howard County, where Shawn Adkins lists his address, with his mother?New Mexico is reaching a bit too far. -moWhich Grand Jury, Peter?Peter is making random statements.Why did you delete 'stirring the pot for justice', Peter?
off topicA mother in Washington state was found guilty Friday of assaulting her 1-year-old daughter by putting bleach drops in her eyes in a 2011 incident.A jury convicted Jennifer Mothershead, 31, of first-degree child assault in Pierce County Superior Court last week. Jurors also found aggravating factors that show Mothershead exhibited deliberate cruelty to a vulnerable victim, amounting to torture.The Pierce County Sheriff's Department started investigating Mothershead in May 2011 after her daughter, who was 14 months old at the time, was airlifted to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. Doctors found that the child had a serious head injury and a severe eye infection, which ultimately caused permanent vision loss in her right eye, according to Pierce County prosecutor Mark Lindquist.Suspicious of the child's injuries, hospital staff notified the sheriff's department. Lindquist said that when questioned by police, Mothershead said her daughter developed the eye problem after playing in a barn, and was treated with antibiotics and eye drops. Mothershead offered no explanation for the head injury, police said.Authorities sent the eye drops that were given to the child to a forensic chemistry lab for analysis, which determined the drops contained bleach, according to Lindquist."The damage to the child's eyes was consistent with repeated exposure to bleach," Lindquist said in a press release.Mothershead was arrested in April 2012. She pleaded not guilty at her arraignment.While a motive remains unclear, the prosecutor said Mothershead, who was recently separated from her husband, had been receiving help from friends."By torturing her child, she was able to get both financial support and sympathy for herself," Lindquist told MyNorthwest.com.The victim, who has not been identified, has lived with her father since 2012.Mothershead is scheduled to appear in court for sentencing on Nov. 15. Based on the aggravating factors, Lindquist is requesting a sentence of 30 to 50 years in prison.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/jennifer-mothershead-guilty_n_4063710.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
30-50 years? That's all?
OT-Baby LisaNancy Grace is covering the Baby Lisa case tonight, updating on the recent age progression. NG reports that Debra Bradley has not spoken to LE since the beginning of the investigation, (according to LE). Also Debra now claims that she 'doesn't remember' taking a polygraph, and also "doesn't remember" whether the cadaver dogs alerted to the floor of her bedroom. Both facts have been widely reported, and DB herself previously announced in an interview that "police told me I failed my polygraph".More to come...
Humm ... someone is getting very nervous about what is upcoming in the Hailey Dunn case. I wonder who that someone could be?
from letter written by Sean Phillips:There's been other letters to you. Ones that never were sent. Oddly this one has done the worst of all in telling you, yet its the one Im making myself send. If I don't again then when? There will never be one I feel right with. These things mostly need to be talked about in person. Annette has the original, tear soaked one. Addressed to you, only it includes that lie about me thinking you could have possibly killed her.Theres still a lot things I don't understand. 90% of the things you told them were lies. Some things I don't know if it was me or them you lied to them some other things. At the time it was something how you used her and acted a lot of the time like you could give a $#&@ less about her.How you kept dragging out the adoption, which would just make it harder on her. Couldn't believe you wanted to do that test before finishing the adoption that day, just to make me pay. I never once thought you had any intention whatsoever of keeping her.Question: analyzing his words(before finishing), was the adoption finished?
OT Baby Lisa-More new info from the NG show:The mother DB did give an interview to ONE local news station in regards to the newly released age progression. It was aired and she makes several statements about how she "would do anything to get her back" (will transcribe those in another post). Interestingly, when other news stations/reporters showed up at her house later the same day to interview her about the new poster, she told them that she had just hired a new 'PR firm' and they advised her not to speak to them. (In what world does a public relations firm advise the parents of a 'missing child' not to speak to the media/public about information meant to bring public awareness to the case?) Sounds more like her attorney saw the interview and told her to shut-up...especially since she clammed up within hours of the 1st interveiw. She also claims that she 'doesn't believe' that she actually failed the lie detector test, but thinks they told her that she did as a 'tactic', (so again she admits that she did fail the poly). She also makes a similar excuse for the cadaver dog hits, claiming that she 'doesn't remember' the dogs ever being in her bedroom, and "doesn't believe" what the media reported about the cadaver dog hits is true. Lol.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20743365,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+people%2Fheadlines+%28PEOPLE.com%3A+Top+Headlines%29hannah anderson has a new interview -- looks like a dewsey
I found an interesting fb page yesterday 'in loving memory of Lisa Renee Irwin'. Worth a read, I think. From what I've read on that page, it was started by Deborah Bradley's uncle on her mothers side.btw- its a peaceful page. Please keep it that way.
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/01/4523103/tips-dwindle-two-years-after-baby.htmlRead the article and it's very telling the way Deborah Bradley only has such nice things to say about the supposed "kidnappers" that "took" baby Lisa.. saying, “Wherever she is, she is being loved and taken well care of, because they went through a hell of a lot of trouble to get her.” And yet she had such harsh words for those that questioned her involvement, saying that those people would have to "answer to their maker for judgement" and "those people that spent all of that time judging me will be miserable". Wow!
OT-Baby LisaLink to Debra Bradley 'breaking her silence' on the investigation. Meaning, DB spouting tired excuses slightly revised to fit her current narrative of 'human trafficking', being the reason for Lisa's 'kidnapping'. DB declares, "you don't take a baby to hurt her, you just don't, and human trafficking IS real". (Not to be a stickler for details, but wouldn't 'human trafficking' fit the definition of 'hurting' a baby, something DB claims 'you' just don't do?) Sorry Debra, but your performance was pathetically transparent.PS- John, this may be a good one for body language analysis. Check out the face she makes when speaking about being interviewed by police, and how she's not ok with being asked the same question repeatedly. (even though she just said 'there's nothing in the world she wouldn't do to get her back'). Also I didn't notice her using Lisa's name once, only 'her, she, she'd, etc.'.http://fox4kc.com/2013/10/02/baby-lisas-mother-breaks-silence-on-investigation/
Thanks for the link jen.@ 1:38 when she says she doesnt have anything to hide.When she says this she leans back slightly as if to get away from her own words.Jen you pointed out her facial expression when she say's."I im not ok answering the same questions repeatedly" @ 1:40/1:41 this expression is consistant with fear.When people say i seen fear in their eyes,it is not the eyeballs themselves,but the changes in the eyelidsNotice the raised upper eyelids and the tencing over the lower eyelids.When the upper eyelids are raised we can see the whites of her eyes slightly above her pupils.The tencing of the lower eyelids slightly cover the bottom of her pupils.These eyelid actions may drop out when a person attempts to conceal fear, as we see here.If we could get a close up of her eyes we may find her pupils are dilated also.This all begs the question WHY she doesn't feel ok "answering the same questions" http://fox4kc.com/2013/10/02/baby-lisas-mother-breaks-silence-on-investigation/
I hope police or some investigators decide to follow them on Lisa's anniversary of her going "missing". Maybe Deborah and Jeremy will sneak away to pay a visit to wherever it was that they buried or dumped her poor lifeless body.
OTBaby Lisa case on Nancy GraceNG says Debbie hasn't spoken to LE since the outset of the investigation. http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/10/08/baby-lisa-mom-refuses-believe-she-failed-poly
JustMe, I seem to remember that doctor named Jeffrey MacDonald did the same thing. He called the 911 operator an asshole, but called those that slaughtered his family people. Debra is guilty of something she did. I can't believe these people can look at themselves in the mirror everyday.
Sorry for the off topic here, but Hannah Anderson is "talking" again.From the Today Show:http://www.today.com/news/hannah-and...or-8C11351106#"When I got into the house, he handcuffed me and zip-tied my feet and then sat me down on the couch and told me what his plan was," she told Guthrie. "He told me he was going to kidnap me and take me to Idaho, where my intention was just to carry his backpacks to the river. And that he was gonna live there. And then he'd get me home afterwards.""Hannah says DiMaggio told her that her mother and brother were in the house and alive, and that she feared for her life when he made her play a game of Russian roulette with a gun.""When it was my turn, I started crying, and like, was freaking out," she said. "And he said, 'Do you want to play?' And I said, 'No.' And I started crying and then he's like, 'Okay.' And he stopped."------------------I think the Today Show usually post a transcript, and if so, it would be great if Peter could do an Analysis !
""The form of attention seeking through inflammatory comments""Uhhhhh that's what YOU, PETER, are doing by fabricating lies (STIRRING THE POT) to generate web hitsTHIS BLOG IS ONE BIG INGLAMMATORY ATTENTION-SEEKING SITEDumb A$$!
4 DAYS AND NO ANNOUNCEMENT BECAUSE THERE IS NO ANNOUNCEMENT AND PETER ADMITTED THERE WAS AND IS NO ANNOUNCEMENT (STIRRING THE POT)
THE SAME PETER HYATT WHO POSTED AN ENTRY ABOUT SHAWN ADKINS NEGOTIATING A PLEA BARGAIN AND THE FBI FORCIBLY REMOVED THE PAGE
""Peter is making random statements.Why did you delete 'stirring the pot for justice', Peter?""PETER NEEDS WEBHITS
EXECUTE SHAWN "MY FACEBOOK BANNER IS A PHOTO MANIP OF WHERE I BURIED HAILEY" ADKINSEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "I REFUSE TO SEARCH THOSE UGLY FIELDS" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "KILLING A LITTLE GIRL IS JUST LIKE KILLING A DEER" ADKINSEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "I USED HAILEY'S SEARCH MONEY TO BUY NEW BREASTS AND A NEW NOSE AND NEW HAIR AND NEW STRIPPER DRESSES" NOT-DUNN-NOTHINGEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "ONLY SOMEBODY LOCAL TO THIS AREA LIKE ME OR SHAWN WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE ROAD LEADING TO WHERE HAILEY WAS BURIED" NOT-DUNN-NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "I LOVE HORROR FILMS FEATURING GIRLS BEING KIDNAPPED TORTURED RAPED KILLED AND I LOVE DRESSING UP IN MASKS AND PRETENDING TO KIDNAP TORTURE RAPE KILL GIRLS BUT I DID NOT LAY A HAND ON HAILEY" ADKINSEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "MY BOYFRIEND IS INNOCENT EVEN THOUGH I CALLED THE POLICE ON HIM MULTIPLE TIMES FOR THREATENING TO KILL ME AND MY DAUGHTER" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY PORN I DON'T HAVE ANY PORN AND IF THE POLICE FOUND PORN IT WAS SHAWN'S PORN AND IF I WAS IN ANY PORN VIDEOS SO FUCKING ACCORDING TO TEXAS LAW THEY'RE LEGAL" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "I WAS FIRED EVEN THOUGH MY BOSS SAID 1) I WAS ONE OF HIS BEST WORKERS AND 2) I QUIT WITHOUT GIVING HIM REASON WHY AND AFTER I WAS FIRED I DROVE TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE EVEN THOUGH MY CELL PHONE PINGS PROVE I DROVE TO BILLIE'S HOUSE THEN MY GRANDMA'S HOUSE THEN MY MOTHER'S HOUSE, NO MORE INTERVIEWS FOR YOU!!!" ADKINSBILLIE JEAN "I WANT TO SETTLE DOWN AND MARRY SHAWN EVEN THOUGH I REFUSE TO DIVORCE CLINT AND REFUSE TO STOP PARTYING HARD WITH MY SON DAVID" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "SO WHAT IF I SHOOT PORN MOVIES IN MY GRANNY'S LIVING ROOM?" ADKINSEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PORN AND IF YOU FIND PORN IN MY HOUSE IT'S SHAWN'S PORN AND IF I'M IN ANY PORN VIDEOS SO WHAT IT'S LEGAL" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "I HAVE 5 FLASH DRIVES FILLED WITH PORN AND I WEAR THEM ON MY BODY AT ALL TIMES" ADKINSEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "READING THE DETAILS OF SADISTIC CRIMES INVOLVING TORTURE-RAPE-KILL IS SIMPLY A FUN ENTERTAINING PASSTIME" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "I LOVED HAILEY WITH ALL MY HEART AND ALL MY SOUL BUT I CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT MY FIANCE I MEAN GIRLFRIEND I MEAN FIANCE I MEAN GIRLFRIEND" ADKINSEXECUTE PILLE JEAN "MY SON IS AWESOME BECAUSE HE BROUGHT ME A STRIPPER DRESS" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE PILLIE JEAN "I WANT TO BRING MY BABY HOME EVEN THOUGH I MOVED A HUNDRED MILES AWAY FROM THAT HOME AND REFUSE TO TELL ANYBODY MY NEW ADDRESS" NOT DUNN NOTHINGEXECUTE SHAWN "HAILEY WAS A SWEET AND INNOCENT GIRL WITH NO INTEREST IN BOYS BUT SHE WAS ALSO SLUTTY AND SMOKED POT WITH THE BOYS" ADKINS
from facebookThings are not going well in Billie Jean Dunn's world. Shawn Adkins came out of his silence to post on Facebook and it wasn't pretty. Is this a sign of things to come should one of them be arrested? I can't imagine what else Shawn is holding back. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Waiting-On-Justice-For-Our-Girl-HD/341139815923339?ref=ts&fref=tsShawn Casey Adkins Im not saying anything bad about you guys..I just said yall turned on her and Im sure it was because of some of her actions..Totally her fault. Yeah W.O.J I was just as shocked as you when she wanted to be friends again..You should have read some of the P.M's she sent me...But yeah I figured she was talking bad about me behind my back..I expected that much. In one of those p.m's She told me all about hooking up with her Ex boss from the carpet cleaning place..That man was married and had three kids..and his wife worked with Billie up there too..She doesn't care about anyone but herself..And his wife use to be a good friend of Billie's but surprise surprise Billie bared her fangs and ruined that friendship. It nice to see yall are seeing her for who she reallyShawn Casey Adkins Yeah she had also told me Ken(ex boss) had fired her from her job because Ken and his wife got back together..oh oh..David(Billie's son) works there too...and still does to my knowledge. And not to mention she told me she started drinking regularly and going out to bar and strip clubs..etc. Back to her old ways again more or less..I dont want anything to do with all that. So, what made her leave this page??Shawn Casey Adkins I know W.O.J you are 100% right..That the way Billie is..She is all about her. Everyone see's it now and she ran off because she can't handle the truth about herself.Shawn Casey Adkins That's Billie for ya..A coward. She loves blaming everyone else for her mistakes..and her inperfections.about an hour ago · Like · 3Shawn Casey Adkins Yeah she all that bad stuff about me because what I was saying about her was true. No bullshit..She isn't scared of me..trust me. I was the one a lil scared of her..she had a bad temper..Shawn Casey Adkins Not at all..You are right tho. She wore the pants in the relationship..She had to have it that way. She liked being in control.Shawn Casey Adkins After...She spent it on material things...drugs..etc. Sometimes she would use it on bills we needed paid..just sometimes.Shawn Casey Adkins Yeah, Ken is the one paying her bills...oh and David too. She can't pay her own bills and has to have her Son and sugar daddy do beause she sucks at being a woman.Shawn Casey Adkins Yeah she couldn't afford much because she had an exspensive habit..or habits i should say. Yeah she was gonna have her PI pay for her some new tires..and I think he wound up doing that for her too because she was in west texas a couple of weeks ago.Shawn Casey Adkins Yes she was on drugs really bad when we were together...and as far as I know she still is.Shawn Casey Adkins Exactly..she is the monster not me. Yeah she didn't spend any of that money to go towards finding Hailey...hell she hardly sent any of that money to David when he still lived in West texas. She isn't a great mother as you can see...although she makes her self out to be a saint.Shawn Casey Adkins lol I guess that's why she has me blocked again..She is back with that dirt bag. His name is Ken Moncebiaz btw..He is the owner of K&M steam cleaning..the place were Billie used to work..or maybe works again since she is back with him lol. She is with him because he is wealthy..she told me she stole money from him when they were together the first time. And yes I am telling the truth.about an hour ago · Like · 3Shawn Casey Adkins Remember me saying Ken's wife...who billie was friends with at the time..Leant billie thousands of Dollars?? Yeah she leant Billie about 30,000 dollars..and did all kinds of other stuff for her too.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/billie-jean/67/6ab/1a7?_mSplash=1you have got to see her description of herself. unbelievable!
From above link:"Will tale(sic) any opportunity to accel(sic) in the company.Billie, you might want to change "tale" to "take" and"accel" to "excel".You're welcome :)
Maybe Billie means she can tell a tale. She sure made one up about Hailey.
I think out only hope is for Billie or Shawn to turn the other in. As for the evidence from Hailey's remains, the FBI has not released the remains. At least I have heard nothing of a release. That is curious to me. Surely they should have competed the forensics by now
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