Monday, October 14, 2013

Statement Analysis Quiz: Stolen Merchandise?



                                                Stolen Merchandise by Peter Hyatt

Here is a statement from an employee suspected of theft.  The background is that he is a truck driver delivering merchandise.  The names have been changed, as has the "merchandise", but the statement is precisely as written.  How much of this short statement can you use in analysis? Can you enter into what took place?

This is a good example of just how deeply we can enter into a short statement. The capitalization, spelling and punctuation are as written.  You do not need to know who the people in the statement are for the purposes of analysis.  The capitalization is how it appeared, but due to the sloppy writing, it is unclear (at least to my eye) if all caps were intended or not.  Because of this, exercise caution before assigning too much meaning to the effort it takes to capitalize.

The driver was to deliver merchandise to each market (individual store).  Randy Jones is likely his supervisor, while John Doe is the investigator to whom was addressed. The subject used a / symbol in his writing.

Post what you believe happened to the missing merchandise that was to be delivered but never made it there.


Bob/ To John Doe

I Left the Warehouse at 5:35AM
Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee
I Hit the Highway and Went to My first
stop Before I Got To Farley's Market
When I Left Farley's market, I Was On
MY Way TO Bangor, I Did my
First stop There, and Then I Went
TO Rachel's Market that's When I Notice
that My merchandise were missing and
then I called Randy Jones after that.

75 comments:

Mouse74 said...

Farley's Market, what happened at Farley's Market. Missing Information.

Apple said...

He took cigarettes from the warehouse and sold them to someone at Farley's market?

Shelley said...

Still being a newbie to this, the part that stood out to me was...



"I Was OnMY Way TO Bangor"


What happend while he was "on his way"?

sha said...

Something happened between leaving the warehouse at 5:35AM and "hitting" the highway" to get to his first stop. "Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee" has a dropped pronoun, if he can't say he went, we can't say it for him. Did he sell the cigarettes he was supposed to deliver to someone at the gas station? (I am assuming the cigarettes were the missing merchandise as why would a truck driver call anyone, especially a supervisior, about his own personal lost pack of smokes.

I could accept the "TO" written in all caps a lot easier if there was a "FROM" somewhere else in the logs.

Masquerade said...

Who went to the gas station? Missing pronoun? It's hard to say, as there's no punctuation. Coffee is usually a social drink. Where was his first stop? His first stop was in Bangor? Well, I'm totally confused. Is his statement all out of order? That's a red flag in itself.

Masquerade said...

Here's how I'm reading it.

Left warehouse at 5:35.

Gas station for coffee.

First stop.

Farley's Market.

Bangor (named as first stop? 2 first stops?).

Rachel's Market.

Noticed cigarettes missing.

Called Randy Jones.

Anonymous said...

went to gas station for coffee is missing "I" - thought that was it - that he couldn't own that statement so it wasn't true that he stopped for coffee at that time. BUT then there is a bigger ommision - a whole skipped incident later ----- FARLEYSSSSSSSS in the billiard room with the wrench.

Masquerade said...

Actually "notice" is in present tense. It should be in past tense.

Anonymous said...

how do you notice cigs missing WHILE DRIVING? you'd notice only when looking in back of truck.

Anonymous said...

i take it all back --- it was the first thing he did. he didn't stop for coffee, or of he did he also dropped off merchandise somewhere. BEFORE hitting highway. just logically ----- why wouldn't you do it first thing. Then he stalls -- when he ports them missing -- to give impression it could have been somebody else at one of these other places. The all caps stuff is just him getting tired of printing, getting stressed, etc, I think they are neither here nor there.

Anonymous said...

went for coffee = went and stashed stolen goods

Masquerade said...

I think he sold the cigarettes at his "first stop".

Sus said...

"First stop" is on his mind and he is leaking that.

he says he "was on my way to bangor" , not that got to bangor, when he made his first stop. I would think the stolen merchandise is somewhere between the warehouse and bangor.

He also gives a precise time he left the warehouse, but seems muddled about the rest of the day. And he uses "left". His mind is on the warehouse. Did something happen there?

I don't know why he would call in cigs as stolen. It must be the merchandise. But he calls them " my cigarettes". He thinks of the merchandise as his and/or he has them within his possession.

elf said...

OT
I just saw the sketch of the new suspect in the Madeline McCann case. It might be just me, and I don't know who gave the description for the sketch of this potential suspect, but that sketch looks like Gerry McCann lol I would love to hear other views on this.

john said...

I Left the Warehouse at 5:35AM
Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee

"I left"

In statement analysis we give the word "left" the color code Blue the highest form of sensitivity along with why something happened.(Because etc.Note that when the word "left" is used, it often indicates missing information. 70% of the missing information is due to time constraints, rushing, traffic, etc, with the other 30% being sensitive information.


"Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee.

Dropped pronoun.We must ask why they are not taking ownership of this part of the statement.

"To Get Coffee.".

When someone says they went for coffee tea etc,we ask them were they with someone,given that this can be a social event with other people.


I Hit the Highway and Went to My first stop Before I Got To Farley's Market.

"I Hit the Highway and Went to My first stop"


Were there is a first there is usually a second,was there more stops before they got to Farleys Market ?..

When I Left Farley's market, I Was
On
MY Way TO Bangor, I Did my
First stop There, and Then I Went
TO Rachel's Market that's When I Notice
that My cigarettes were missing and
then I called Randy Jones after that.

"When I Left Farley's market"

Again we have the sensitivity with the use of the word "Left"


"I Was MY Way TO Bangor"

They don't say they got to Bangor only that they were on their way.

"I Did my First stop There"

They don't actually say were the first stop was.


"and then I called Randy Jones after that",

After what? Missing information.

Improper social introduction.(ISI), Who's randy Jones

"and then I called Randy Jones after that",

When a phone enters into a statement we flag it for sensitivity,it is possible it will tie them to a crime.

By using just the word "Left" i think his mind was on the warehouse were he had taken the cigarettes.Then it enters again after he leaves farley's market.my guess is they are at farleys market.

S + K Mum said...

notice that my cigarettes are 'missing' not stolen? Minimising.

He mentions Farley's twice, the other places only once, so it's important. I think he off-loaded goods on the highway between the gas station and getting to Farley's. Using stopping for coffee to allow for the time he was meeting with his friend who was off-loading the goods.

Probably be totally wrong, can't wait to find out what your analysis is on it Peter.

GetThem said...

Leaving the Warehouse at 5:35 is important enough that he wants to establish that as fact. Went to the gas station and states the reason why (most would assume for gas), so maybe he is social with someone at the gas station (maybe a co-conspiritor?). HIT the highway. Odd terminology as in a "hit" from the ciggarette or drugs? I think he dumped the stash at the gas station and let the clerk sell the stuff there so they could split the proceeds. He doesn't feel the need to explain away anything at his next stops, so they were probably uneventful. He does say his FIRST stop again, but no need to explain why it was his first stop.

GetThem said...

Oh and cigarettes/tobacco is what I think the stolen merch is. Pretty expensive commodity these days!!!

GetThem said...

Oh, oh, oh, me Mr. Kotter!!!

I think he repeated the term "first stop" because the first stop is sensitive to him. As in the reasons I described above.

Masquerade said...

OT

John,

I can't find too much discussion online regarding Abigail Hernandez. The only place I could find some, is at Websleuths, which I'm not a member, so I only read. It is being speculated that her statement was pre-prepared (possibly by LE or the FBI). If you've watched her statement, what do you make of that, and her body language? She was previously stopped from speaking, by the County(?) Attorney. Why would a mother be stopped from speaking when their child is missing? The silence on this case is maddening.

Anne said...

Ok this is the first time I have been brave enough to do this:

I Left the Warehouse at 5:35AM

Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee

I Hit the Highway and Went to My first stop Before I Got To Farley's Market
When I Left Farley's market, I Was On MY Way TO Bangor, I Did my
First stop There, and Then I Went
TO Rachel's Market that's When I Notice that My cigarettes were missing and then I called Randy Jones after that.

There is a dropped pronoun - went to my first stop. Farleys Market is mentioned twice.
Something happened before at or right after Farleys Market. The capitalization and use of pronoun MY cigarettes, shows that he considered the cigarettes his at this point.

john said...

Hi Masquerade,

Iv'e been checking also to see if more statements have been released,as of yet i can't find any.Is her dad still around,i haven't seen him ?.

Regards her Body Language there is not a lot to go on.What i did notice is she flicks her hair when pleading for Abigail to come home..At first i thought she may be pushing it away from her eyes but it is not in her eyes.If it was, i would expect her to brush it back away from her face,but she flicks it back almost as if she is courting the camera. Now this could be a trait of hers.If it is not, it is very odd behaviour.

In the UK a while back there was a girl called Traci Andrews who killed her boyfriend and blamed it on a alleged road rage incident with another man.She was found guilty of his murder. The reason i mention this case is that she also was caught on camera flicking her hair as if she was flirting.As i say though,this may be totally innocent action.

I think the words she uses when pleading for Abigail are more revealing at this moment.

sidewalk super said...


I think he sold/stole expensive cigarettes while getting his /their coffee at the gas station, which was before he hit the highway to Farleys, the first stop in whatever town he delivered to first. Bangor is another city, another set of numerical stops, Rachel must have ordered those cigarettes. Oops, gosh, I"m robbed...gotta phone Randy."

Sus said...

OT kind of...
Stealing and reselling tobacco is kind of a big deal. Remember, the govt gets the taxes off all tobacco.

ATF = Alcohol, TOBACCO, and Firearms.

Jen said...

Bob/To John Doe

- A strange heading, I would guess either HE is Bob, and he is putting his name at the top of his statement like he's turning in his homework, or he is providing this statement to both 'Bob' and 'John Doe'...the investigator. If so, then I would wonder why he feels the need to explain to 'Bob', as well as the investigator. Is Bob the normal delivery driver? The owner?

I Left the Warehouse at 5:35AM
Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee

-He establishes an exact time when he 'left' the warehouse. He doesn't say 'around 5:30' which is what I would expect.The exact time makes me lean toward the idea that he is lying about his departure time, and the use of the word 'left' also indicates sensitivity about what took place at the warehouse. This idea is bolstered by his next sentence where he drops his pronoun, and then explains why he went to the gas station...making the stop at the gas station and the time immediately after he left the warehouse sensitive.

I Hit the Highway and Went to My first
stop Before I Got To Farley's Market
When I Left Farley's market, I Was On
MY way TO Bangor.

-This whole part of the statement revolves around Farleys market, which he mentions twice using it's full name. Although he mentions it twice, he avoids the topic by talking about what he did before, and after he 'left' Farley's, but includes no details of what happened while he was there. He again uses 'I left' to describe his departure from Farley's indicating that his mind is still on something that happened there.

I Was On
MY Way TO Bangor, I Did my
First stop There, and Then I Went
TO Rachel's Market that's When I Notice
that My cigarettes were missing and
then I called Randy Jones after that.

-He skips from leaving Farleys to being on the way to Bangor...then before saying he made it to Bangor he states he 'DID' his first stop there'. This is a change is language from how he described his 'first stop' earlier. In the first part of his statement he 'went to' his first stop, now in this part he 'did' his first stop. Did he not deliver anything at the first stop, or did something else happen that caused him to label the two stops differently? He connects this sentence with 'and' indicating missing information and then says he went to Rachels market, the only other market he calls by it's full name.

-After identifying his location as Rachel's market he claims 'that's when I notice my cigarettes were missing'. This is a soft language and contains no details despite being the focus of the statement. 'I notice' is present tense, and 'missing' is soft. The cigarettes didn't walk away, so if he found them gone then they were obviously stolen. His avoidance of this reality is telling, since he seems to want to distance himself from the idea of the items being stolen...instead they are just 'missing'...like they have been misplaced. He then jumps to the conclusion of the account without giving any other details, again using 'and' to skip details, ending the statement with calling Randy Jones 'after that', which distances him from his statement about noticing the cigarettes gone.

I think whatever took place started at the warehouse, and possibly ended at Farley's market. He shows sensitivity about both locations and he seems to slow down his statement and include more details when approaching the Farley's part of the account. He includes what happened before and after the stop at Farley's, but not during. He mentions Rachel market in reference to noticing the missing items which is the 'headline' of the account, but devotes twice the words to Farley's market.

I am excited to read Peter's analysis and see reader all did!

Anonymous said...

Common sense: He was hauling a valuable cargo. Why wouldn't he have kept his truck locked at all times when in and out of the vehicle, then no one other than him could have had access to the cigs. Instead he makes it convenient for someone to steal them, making him a coconspirator.

His confusing words about his various stops is just icing on the cake that indicates his guilt. One doesn't just lose a load of cigarettes in mid air while traveling from one destination to another. Idiot.

elf said...

He used present tense when he said 'that's when I notice my (merchandise) is gone'. I think using a phrase like hit the road or hit the highway is something I would expect a trucker or some type of professional who travels long distances.

Where does it say the merchandise is cigarettes?

GetThem said...

Elf, you're right. Where did cigs come from? And, where did I get cigarettes from? Okay, I looked back and it was from using the comments in here as reference instead of the actual post. I look forward to P's analysis!!!!!

Masquerade said...

Thanks John.

Haha Elf. I'm pretty sure it originally said cigarettes, but now it says merchandise. To be fair though, Peter said the names and type of merchandise had been changed. Maybe we were placing too much importance on the "cigarettes", when the merchandise probably wasn't even really cigarettes?

Masquerade said...

As past commenters have said, he claims the merchandise as his own, saying "my merchandise was missing". In his mind, to rationalize, he doesn't consider it stealing, because it was his merchandise.

Lemon said...

Use of "left" can indicate missing information.
Missing pronoun "_ went…" lacks commitment.
"hit the highway" is extra information.
"Farley's Market" is repeated, sensitive.
Use of past tense, until "I notice" present tense.
"My merchandise" takes ownership with "my".

Did the 'merchandise' go missing between the warehouse and Farley's Market?

Lemon said...

Also, "hit the highway" seems carefree and jovial. Does this give the sense he is upbeat after liberating the merchandise? I think it might.

Anonymous said...

the cap letters are confusing.. but first thing said is, I Left...then dropped pronoun Went to the gas station..hmm why drop the pronoun?

Lemon said...

It was too heavy? :)

Anonymous said...

OT
Madeleine McCann: Police reveal 'pre-planned abduction' theory
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24528530

Anonymous said...

STOP saying"cigarettes"DOPEY!

Anonymous said...

The British police are stupid bastards.

john said...

OT.

Abigail Hernandez update:

Last call from missing teenage girl's phone made from ski resort five days ago
Abigail Hernandez, 15, disappeared last Wednesday in Conway, New Hampshire
Sniffer dogs and officers have combed 3,000 acres of land for teenager


Read more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2458851/Missing-Abigail-Hernandez-Mother-pleaded-safe-return-birthday-message-daughter.html#ixzz2hlzaWE64

Anonymous said...

OT

"elf said...
OT
I just saw the sketch of the new suspect in the Madeline McCann case. It might be just me, and I don't know who gave the description for the sketch of this potential suspect, but that sketch looks like Gerry McCann lol I would love to hear other views on this."

elf, lots of people say the same. I'm wondering about how good memory one needs to have to be able to assist making a scetch of a man he saw 6 years ago.

"I GUESS I was looking at Madeleine's bed and I couldn't ...couldn't make it out, and I realized that she was not actually in that bed and I thought ahh...I wonder if she has woken up and gone through to our bed...She wasn't in our bed and that was the first time where I GUESS panic kicked in."

http://gma.yahoo.com/maddy-mccann-cops-release-sketches-several-possible-kidnap-205434208--abc-news-topstories.html?vp=1

Yukari said...

Can anyone recommend a good board to discuss the Maddie McCann case?

Reading the latest news, I can´t help but wonder what it is they must have on certain people (and I wonder who?) to keep this ridiculous charade going on and on - taking up resources that could be used for solving *actual* cases. This stinks to high heaven.

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sidewalk super said...


on re-reading:
the only statement without the "I" in front is
"went to the gas station"
There is the alibi.

yes?

No?

sidewalk super said...


Missed one:

"and went to my first stop before Farleys"

yes?

C5H11ONO said...

Straight from my Peter Hyatt notes:

I Left the Warehouse at 5:35AM

--Many false statements start with “left”. (i.e. When I left my house). In this case he chose to start it I left the warehouse. The word “left” is a point of sensitivity. Likely due to rushing, time, traffic, but 30% likely related to missing serious information. Maybe there was some sort of altercation prior to him leaving the warehouse?

Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee

--The driver left the pronoun “I” out of this statement. It should be noted that deception is often indicated in statements that begin without a pronoun. He has weakened his assertion by dropping his pronoun. Also the driver found the need to explain why he went to the gas station. The driver must have been anticipating that someone would ask “why” and felt the need to explain that he/she went to get coffee.
Whenever the word "coffee" or "tv" ("television, telly, tube, etc.) is in a statement, we flag it to ask, "were you alone?" since these two activities are often associated with being with another person.


I Hit the Highway and Went to My first

stop Before I Got To Farley's Market

--The driver indicated that he/she “hit” the highway. This is unexpected language. I have to wonder if the driver hit something earlier or if the driver was involved in a physical altercation with someone earlier. The driver states he/she went to his first stop before he got to Farley’s Market. If this is his first stop, then there should be a second and third further down.

When I Left Farley's market, I Was On

MY Way TO Bangor, I Did my

First stop There, and Then I Went

--The driver used “left” again, which signifies that there was increased sensitivity at his “first” stop before he got to Farley’s Market. Something extremely sensitive caused him to use “left” again. There was tension. Now he states that he was on his way to Bangor, and did his first stop there. Whoever will be doing the questioning will need to get a lot more details about when he hit the highway and went to his first stop before Farley’s Market. Where did he stop there? I believe this is where the stolen merchandise is.

TO Rachel's Market that's When I Notice

that My merchandise were missing and

--The driver uses present tense, “That’s when I notice (present tense) that (using distancing language a second time in this sentence) my merchandise were (not was).

then I called Randy Jones after that.

--The number of lines dedicated to what was going on before the event: 7.5
The number of lines dedicated to what the occurrence itself was: 1.5
The number of lines dedicated to what happened after the event: 1

Truthful statements have three parts that are balanced. 1/3 before, 1/3 during and 1/3 after. This statement is not balanced.

Masquerade said...

Thanks John.

GetThem said...

Thank you C5. I got part of it right, but now I see I failed to continue analyzing the 2nd half of the statement. Do we get to find out what kind of merchandise? :)

Anonymous said...

There's tons of deception but if he made three stops before noticing the merchandise was missing- WTF was he doing at those stops? Farleys, first stop, then Rachel's. If he stole the merchandise at or before first stop, how can he possibly imply he didn't notice it was missing until the third stop? Is there no record of those 3 markets receiving merchandise? Is he that stupid a liar?

Coffee as a social drink? No, at 5:35 AM coffee is liquified caffeine. Too many people attempting analysis on here focus on behaviors and not on language. If I had a dime for every perfect parent on here who thinks Celis or Bradley or whatever parent is guilty offender because "I" would have done it differently, well, I'd be a richer man. It's statement analysis, not behavior analysis.

Buckley

Seagull said...

Very good analysis C5. I' inlcned to agree. There's little more I would add other than there is passivity in the statement and sensitivity shown by repeated language and the need to explain why he went to the gas station (to get coffee) The statement isn't completely from memory as he makes two first stops, once before and once after Farley's market. I pickd up on the language, hit and when he refers to the word,"merchandise" Fnally as you point out, he uses distancing language (use of the word That twice at the end)Finally the shortest answer is te best. He could have finished by saying, "and then I called Randy Jones" he adds "after that" which is unnecessary and weakens the statement. I also noticd the lack of full stops, periods. This may indicate inforation is being withheld. There are also no parenthesis around (I was on my way to Bangor)The whole statement is out of order and is not coming from memory. There is sensitivty and passivity. If the person doesn;t tell us he did something then we can;t believe he did.

Seagull said...

oops I apologise for the missing letters on my comment (or my spelling). This is a new laptop and I need to press the keys harder.

elf said...

The word cigarette was holding me up lol I kept looking at Peters post and was like huh? Lol
I don't think he stopped for coffee because he didn't say he stopped for coffee. Just 'went'. If he can't say it we can't say it for him.

elf said...

I'm glad I'm not the only one to see the similarity lol

C5H11ONO said...

Anon 11:23

I believe you are correct. The problem is that the driver found the need to include his stopping at a gas station to get coffee. This was the free editing process. This means that he technically could have written pages and pages and pages of stuff he did, but in his editing process in his mind, he found the need to write that he went to a gas station, and to explain why he went to a gas station, which he wrote was to get coffee. This was important to him and that is why it was important for him to include it in his summary of what he did. I have coffee every morning too. I need the coffee to wake up. But, if I were to write a one day page of what I did, drinking coffee would not top my list of important things. That is why this is flagged. He very well may have had coffee alone, and/or he may have needed the coffee to wake up. But, it requires further questions. Because he said he went to the gas station - to get coffee, I would ask if him if he met anyone there.

Skip said...

I 'Did' my first stop there... why not, I 'made' my first stop there? Hitting the highway... sure it's trucker lingo but people seem to use slang more when they're trying to act casual/ nonchalant.

Seems like distancing. The first part of his day was a total lie.

Jen said...

'I hit the highway, and went to my first stop

I keep coming back to this phrase because it is out of place, he has already left the warehouse, beginning his delivery run...yet he places the beginning of his trip a few lines into his account. After reading this again I'm thinking maybe he didn't steal the merch, and wondering if the driver didn't secure the 'merchandise' properly at the warehouse, and maybe it was dumped out on the road, since he uses the phrase 'hit the road'?? ( he shows sensitivity about warehouse departure, time and pre-explains what he did after leaving)

Anonymous said...

I agree the statement about went...for coffee is revealing, but that a deduction that it's a social drink is off base.

I take the "stop for coffee" and then "hit the road" as explaining time away. He left at 5:35, not five thirty, stopped for coffee, then "hit the road" to his first stop as if that's when he really started work.

Is he sensitive about his slow start? Or something else? Could he have moved the merchandise at the first gas station, then sold it at Farleys?

Buckley

Seagull said...

What is the acceptable breakdown of a truthful statement? I'm led to believe it's 25% before, 50% during and 25% after, although I have heard 20% before and 30% post incident.

Anonymous said...

A 5% difference is significant in determining truthfulness?

Buckley

john said...

Masquerade said...
Thanks John.

Hi, this is why i keep coming back here,99% of people here have respect not only for Peter,Heather et al..But also for all the members and regulars and along with new new posters,whether they post as a Anon or not..We give them respect..if they choose to #x5$ it up then that's their choice..

They are missing out on,for want of a better,good people.

Masquerade said...

I agree!

Masquerade said...

I agree to a point, Buckley.

I get coffee almost every day, by myself, for myself. Of course it happens. The fact that coffee is considered a social drink doesn't mean he absolutely had his coffee with someone else. It's just flagged. Just like the number 3. Things happen at 3:00 every day. Things happen in 3's. It's not always a lie or deceptive. It's flagged, then all the flags can be looked at separately as well as, as a whole.

Most of us here are far from SA experts. We all pick up on certain things/flags, and miss others. As a group, if you read through all the comments, we probably picked up on at least most of the flags.

C5H11ONO said...

Get Them @ 11:08:
Peter stated that he changed the names, so he may have changed the locations to reflect "Market". Based on this language if he changed the name only, then I would assume the "markets" were places where food and/or beverages were. I don't see where a grand theft would occur with stacks of potato chips, but the high end products like meat, seafood, beer, or liquor. Maybe he was a Heineken driver? Or a liquor distributor? Maybe he was a route merchandiser for a big food distributor. This would require him to stop somewhere first to unload his bulk product. This would be where he "tripped up" and stated he went to his "first" stop before getting to Farley's market. Then proceeding to repeat his official "first" stop with the company. I think he must have been in cahoots with someone else that had a warehouse to store the stolen merchandise.

Anonymous said...

" As a group, if you read through all the comments, we probably picked up on at least most of the flags."

Yes, and then some. My point was that people are increasingly picking up on what they see as behavioral flags as opposed to linguistic flags from the statement.

Buckley

Clear2Go said...

Peter,
In fairness I will not post as you appear to have 'changed' some of the words. My RSS reader, picked up a previous version of the statement from the one you have on the website.

But I did want to say I like this exercise.

-mike.

Nic said...

I really enjoyed your analysis, John. I think you hit all the highlights and then some.

Sus said...

The driver changed what he did at each stop.

He WENT to the gas station (no pronoun, thus no commitment )

WENT to my first stop. (Again no pronoun)

I GOT to Farley's Market

I DID my first stop there (said directly after I was on my way to Bangor)

And then I WENT to Rachel's Market.

I would find out how this driver speaks about drop-offs, but most drivers say DID A STOP. Saying he WENT somewhere doesn't mean he unloaded anything there.

Farley's is definately on his mind. He mentioned before and leaving there. But I'm not convinced that's where he left his merchandise. I think he made an extra stop somewhere between Farley's and "on the way to Bangor.." Did a cohort meet him at Farley's?

Sus said...

Oh, now when I write it out I can see it. He left the warehouse with the merchandise. He did not go to the gas station or a first stop. (No pronoun.) He went straight on the highway and GOT to Farley's, which does not mean he stopped. He drove by. He did a stop, which means unload merchandise, on the road to Bangor. He then goes to Rachel's where he has no merchandise to unload...thus he uses "went" again.

Anonymous said...

SA Noob here.

I apologize if I missed it, but as far as I have seen no one else has cited the thing that jumped out to me the most:

"Went to My first
stop Before I Got To Farley's Market"

That means there was a first top BEFORE Farley's market.

What was that first stop?

He doesn't say Farley's market was the first stop, so we can't say it for him.

There was a stop before Farley's market.

john said...

Update:

Missing Girl Abigail Hernandez Searchers Uncover Gruesome Evidence.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/162582/missing_girl_abigail_hernandez_searchers

john said...

Update:

Erica Parsons' adoptive parents cancel DSS hearing; lawyer says 'stay in area'

http://www.wbtv.com/story/23697983/erica-parsons-adoptive-parens-cancel-dss-hearing-lawyer-says-stay-in-area

Trigger said...

"Went to the gas station to get coffee."

dropped pronoun

An alibi was needed since he did not purchase gas.

gas station is important

Trigger said...

"I notice that my merchandise was missing."

"notice" present tense verb, it should have been past tense verb if he was being truthful.

"my" merchandise was missing. He takes ownership of merchandise and uses "missing" instead of stolen to minimize the event.

Masquerade said...

LE is now saying that her phone was not used at 6:30. They are saying that it was used that day, but not that it was used at 6:30 near the resort.

Her boyfriends father said that her boyfriend, James, last saw Abigail when he got on the school bus to go home, and she was going to walk home. School got out at 2:30. She sent him a <3 text at 2:52. He said when he was getting on the bus she was texting away, so I wonder who else she was texting. I'm sure LE knows, I'm just being curious.

There is quite a bit of statement from the boyfriends father in this article. I don't think he's involved at all, but I do see that he referred to her at one point as, "she was my boys first girlfriend". I'd like to see analysis of his statements, because he seems to really care about her. He was livid that no Amber Alert was issued. He's spoken out the most about her. I don't know if him saying she "was" my boys first girlfriend, refers to some other meaning of was, as if he was thinking of them becoming boyfriend/girlfriend 9 months ago? Or he might feel she might be deceased now a week later. I'm not sure. He has spoken out a lot though on Facebook.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20131016/NEWS07/131019559

Masquerade said...

Actually, I reread the article. He refers to her in past tense multiple times. I don't feel he's involved, but I can't ignore the past tense references.

Dawn SoCa said...


OK I haven’t read any of the other 72 comments so forgive me if this is redundant… But I want my eyes to be fresh.
I Left the Warehouse at 5:35AM
If the first or last verb is “left,” deception is present.
Went to the Gas Station To Get Coffee
Dropped pronoun could mean lack of commitment, but in this case I think it’s to hide WHO went to the gas station. He was not alone. Also, the mention of coffee – a social thing – again, he was not alone. I would be interested to hear which gas station and pull video.

I Hit the Highway and Went to My first
stop Before I Got To Farley's Market
Seems to gloss over this time frame of his first stop. Where was it? Who was there?

When I Left Farley's market,
Either he was in a rush or leaving Farley’s was sensitive

I Was OnMY Way TO Bangor,
He WAS on his way, but something happened. I would ask him what?

I Did my First stop There, and Then
What happened between his first stop in Bangor and Rachel’s market? “and then” shows lapse in time

I WentTO Rachel's Market that's When I Notice
Notice is in present tense after everything else was past. Lacks commitment – this was not when he “noticed” – he already knew that the merchandise was gone.

that My merchandise were missing and
then I called Randy Jones after that.
“and then” and “after that” both show more lapses in time.

This guy had a co-conspirator and met up with him over coffee and delivered the goods to him on the way to Bangor.

Apple said...

Peter,
I love to learn from my mistakes. Could you post your analysis on this statement?