Thursday, October 10, 2013

Hannah Anderson: Seeking Media Attention

Photo Hannah posted on Facebook

Kidnapping survivor Hannah Anderson says her family’s friend-turned-captor handcuffed her and tried to make her play a game of Russian roulette until she started “freaking out.
James Lee DiMaggio used zip ties to bind her feet and then told her that he was going to take her to Idaho to help him settle there before releasing her, according to the San Diego-area teen, who described her ordeal two months after she was rescued by FBI agents and returned safely to California.
He told me that he was going to kidnap me and take me to Idaho, where my intention was just to carry his backpacks to the river. And that he was gonna live there. And then he’d get me home afterwards,” Anderson told NBC’s “Today” show on Thursday.
DiMaggio assured her at the time that her mother, Christina Anderson, and 8-year-old brother, Ethan, were alive. He then forced her to play Russian roulette on his couch, Anderson said.
And when it was my turn, I started crying and, like, was freaking out. And he said, ‘Do you want to play?’ And I said, ‘No.’ And I started crying and then he’s, like, ‘OK.’ And he stopped,” she said.
DiMaggio, 40, was killed by FBI agents in the Idaho wilderness Aug. 10, one week after he allegedly abducted the 16-year-old and killed Christina and Ethan Anderson at his home in Boulevard, 65 miles east of San Diego.
Authorities have said DiMaggio set fire to his home with a timer, giving him a 20-hour head start.
The remains of Anderson’s 44-year-old mother and brother were later found inside the burned home. Investigators said they couldn’t determine how Ethan died due to extensive burns and tissue loss. They said gunshot wounds, asphyxiation or burns from the house fire were all possibilities. The mother is believed to have been bludgeoned to death.
When Anderson thinks of her captor she feels “just mostly sick and angry” and said he got what he deserves.
The teen’s disappearance triggered a massive search spanning much of the western United States and parts of Canada and Mexico.
The Amber Alert helped her be found, she said, and has “helped me keep going through healing and stuff, knowing that people were looking for me and that they’re on my side.
Her father, Brett Anderson sat with his daughter during the interview

164 comments:

Shelley said...

I sure hope LE is paying attention.

Clearly she needs to be asked more questions.

I tried to ask good SA question on her FM site but she never answered. Not surprised.

One of the questions I asked was "why should we believe your statments about the kidnapping"

Nothing...

Anonymous said...

http://www.today.com/video/today/53242928/#53242626

http://www.today.com/video/today/53243067/#53242928

Anonymous said...

This girls story just keeps on growing. Russian roulette?? REALLY!

I caught something on the tv about her talking to Jim about her mom and the troubles she had with her mom.

I think everytime the limelight fades, we will get a new version updated with more horrendous things. That does get her air time and sympathy.

john said...

Ive just watched the full interview.

Peter,she says she was drugged and he kidnapped her,yet after she says all this she uses "WE" a lot showing unity. She also calls him "JIM"...

Is this natural for a survivor to use this kind language when talking about what they/she went through ?.

http://nation.time.com/2013/10/09/hannah-anderson-will-detail-her-kidnapping-ordeal-on-today-show/

Vita said...

Inconsistency Hannah
Her interview on Dateline, she freely answering, her quoted from NBC Transcript: >> hannah was surprised to learn about the nationwide search for her and says she never heard of the amber alert

>> i didn't really know what it was. but i know it helped people find me and it made them like realize that it's hard to find people out there. but with everyone's support, it can help a lot.

I watched this interview as it aired, and I questioned my own self, wait wasn't Chelsea King and Amber Dubois from the same community and or near where Hannah lived/ her high school. Both teen girls abducted remotely close to Hannah's own community. Sure enough Chelsea King school was within the same sporting events as Hannah's school. I then looked up Chelsea King, and there it was a quote of Hannah and her grandmother, of the Amber Alert on Chelsea & Amber
* they recalling 2010* Sara Britt is Hannah's maternal grandmother.

Hannah’s grandparents, Ralph and Sara Britt of Santee, attended the fundraiser and thanked everyone for coming.

“We have received messages from all over the world,” Sara Britt said. “It’s overwhelming.”

Asked about the loss of her daughter and grandson, she said, “There are no words for that. He stole our heart and soul. They’re in a better place. We’ll get through it.”

She said she and Hannah once watched the news accounts of Amber Dubois, 14, of Escondido, and Chelsea King, 17, of Poway, who had gone missing and were found murdered by John Gardner in 2010. He is serving two life sentences.

“She said, ‘Nana, if that ever happened to me, what would you do?’” Sara Britt said. “I said, ‘Hannah, we’d never sleep until we found you.’”
--
So much for, never knew or heard of Amber Alerts, missing people, what reaction her own community was capable of. There is something very wrong within this entire case as it's not allowed to be asked of Hannah. She is a minor, she is protected. Her brother was a minor too. No voice for him. I found Hannah's Pinterest, she and her Grandmother (Britt) follow each other. Tina Saincome Anderson, her pinterest remains online, Tina (Hannah's Mom) her mother Britt not connected to Tina.

There is 3 Pins that stood out, pinned 40 wks ago, between Britt and Hannah, a Girls HOW TO escape your Wrists being Zipped Tied, and 2nd how to confuse a person to make them stop Texting you. Type back to fool them an Error Message. The 3rd one, is how to fix/operate an Iphone thats case fascia has been cracked/damaged. All pinned in same 40 wks ago, consecutive.

Disturbing. Hannah and Britt plotting and planning along with or against or its simply " tactical measures all 15 yr old girls should know" ? she to turn 16 in July 2013. There is too much within this case that doesn't add.

Hannah: http://www.pinterest.com/hanban722/

Sara Britt: http://www.pinterest.com/sebritt60/
4 my hunny bunny this the Board the 3 Pins are on, Hannah to repin them to her own boards.

Zip Tie escape
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002288667691/

Vita said...

The two other Pins links
If Tragedy befell wrote Sara? I guess this isn't considered tragic to me.

Kokopeli • 40 weeks ago
Just in case this tragedy befalls me...how to fix a cracked iPhone..so glad I found this!

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002288680882/

On Texting: wonder if this was Genius Idea was used within the before hours of the Kidnapping of Tina & Hannah's brother. Hannah to type this to her Mom? pre-the napping of her Mom and Brother. Wasn't it that Hannah's phone turned off at 4PM, while she was had 11,12,13 communications prior to, with Dimaggio. She to say to press, they were Not phone calls they were texts, paraphrased.

Texting Error as response http://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002288667641/

Something is very messed up within this family, that I do believe it was an inside job. Not solely Dimaggio's brain snapping, however the media has spun him to be.

TopixNut said...

The father looked very uncomfortable during the interview. Hannah seemed to be making it up as she went along.
She used present tense once, I believe that's a lie indicator.

Why is there someone losing their mind on here about the Ayla case?

Anonymous said...

so many tells that girl gave and the interviewer and her dad I'm sure caught them but just sat through them. The russian roulette -- the most rediculous one I suppose. but some others:

why did she note that her mom's car wasn't there? What was that really about?

How did she know that her brother was gagged???? she even physically describes it - it's very vivid for her. It wasn't in the coroner's report -- his body was burned so bad they couldn't identify anything on him. The that's the clincher -- .

Then we get to the woods --- "they" built a fire -- "TO GET HELP"? say what? working together now but not earlier?? & why did Jim want outside help suddenly? also very strange story about how/why he got shot. is she covering for fbi??

my friend says just cause she's a crazy liar doesn't make her a killer. it's a frustrating but valid point. however the truth within the lies speaks to very guilty knowledge.

Anonymous said...

she only seemed to be upset that Jim was dead - not her mom and bro

Anonymous said...

http://instagram.com/_hannah_x0x0#

Anonymous said...

check out the hate she feels for her father when he speaks for a few minutes. i think he brought her on the show out of fear for his own safety - I think he wants everybody to see her for who she is.

Anonymous said...

I don't think LE wants back in. I think they have something to hide themselves --- the shooting/killing of Jim when he wasn't shooting @ them. I would be one hell of a hurdle for the to choose to reopen this case.

but .... she KNEW Ethan was gagged. And she was YELLING HIS NAME BUT COULDN"T HELP>? or wouldn't. why just yell his name -- why not _call_ out -- I love you -- where are you --- help me --- etc.

Maggie said...

Off Topic:

Peter, I just wanted to bring this to your attention, because I figured you would be very interested in taking a look at this:
Jazzie noticed under an old newspaper article from Dec 2011 about Ayla's case, there is a commenter from Lewiston, ME who starts out with the screenname "Facts Not Fiction" but changes his screenname multiple times(obviously the same person) who posts about a dozen comments over the course of a year and a half under this newspaper article that are incredibly vicious bashings of Trista.
The poster here named AJ noticed that in one of the comments made by this individual from Lewiston, ME that he left in April 2012, this very angry commentor refers to Ayla's case as a "Pandora's Box".
I need to post the comment separately because it was too long when I tried to send it through.


Shelley said...

That comment about gagging is VERY alarming.
Does any one know if its ever been stated by LE?

I would think that if he was burned as bad as they stated that even if he was gagged, that evidence would not be present and would never be known unless someone was there.

Which again, if that is the case, I think she just slipped up that she was there or at the least knew what happened.

Hobnob said...

BBM

Was Hannah Anderson heard rehearsing her story for the 'Today' show interview that airs today? According to one Pierre Hotel employee -- who wishes to remain anonymous for very obvious reasons -- she was. The hotel employee reached out to me privately and shared that she had been eavesdropping while Anderson's "newly hired PR person" coached her on what to say to Savannah Guthrie during their interview. To be clear, the anonymous tipster told me that she had witnessed a "very damning prep meeting."

The Pierre Hotel employee continued to say the following:

"Hannah was corrected numerous times [by her PR woman] to refrain from saying we planned and packed up our things to he and his things."

The anonymous employee of the famous hotel claims that Brett Anderson was present (along with Hannah's grandmother and friend Alan McNabb), but Brett kept getting up and walking away from the table. So what does this mean? If this employee of the Pierre Hotel is being honest, then she witnessed coaching that pretty much changed the tone of the story to try to make her seem more like a victim than she claims to be. If this is something that truly happened, then it is absolutely shameful. So the question to ask now is: Who else saw Hannah Anderson in this area? If she was at the Pierre meeting with her PR agent, then someone should be able to confirm this.

Click here to read more by Chelsea Hoffman or fan her Facebook page to follow her latest projects. If you’re interested in learning about criminal profiling, missing persons or serial killers, consider enrolling in the Crime Studies class taught by crime analyst and profiler Chelsea Hoffman!

Chelsea Hoffman is based in Henderson, Nevada, United States of America, and is an Anchor for Allvoices.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/15719891-eavesdropping-on-hannah-anderson-what-was-heard


If this is true then it is damning, We shows unity and co-operation thus contradicting her claims she was a victim in all this .

Maggie said...

Peter--Here is the comment which was left under a newspaper article in April 2012 which refers to Ayla's case as a Pandora's Box. I will post the link to the newspaper article and comments.
I am wondering if this individual may have written Phoebe's recent press release where she too uses the term "Pandora's Box".

"smdh, the statement by MacCausland is very interesting.
they are obviously still running parallel investigations..living or dead.
it was reported that following an anonymous tip that Trista was sighted with Ayla, LE re-interviewed her.
it was rumored that was a pretext to go over her story again in more detail.
at any rate, it seems like they are crossing their tees and dotting their i's.
and to be fair to LE, this story is a pandora's box..
i believe we will see some information released soon, LE can not keep saying 'ongoing investigation' for much longer without showing some results or admitting defeat.
the latest article published says LE 'justifies' spending half a million dollars on this investigation..they will have to show the public something for that money soon..even if it is inconclusive.

allowing speculation to flourish and sitting back while a community is destroyed by divisiveness and vigilante rabbel rousing is an extremely detrimental reflection of LE's policy imo.
fanning the flames of social media with cryptic and conflicting statements saying 'it's helpful' is a very unprofessional. it makes it seem like they want facebook to solve their case and just creates more drama and frustration in the public. if this drags on much longer they risk someone being hurt by an idiot like the window breaking vigilante.
insinuating the guilt of the paternal family without providing any evidence to back it up seems like a poker bluff that backfired.
LE should have named suspects and been up front about their suspicions, it comes of as a smear campaign and blundering, since with the limited information released there is as much reason to suspect the maternal family as the paternal.(more imo)
why was it kept secret that Trista was in Waterville area when Ayla vanished?
if it is all so innocent why did it take more than 4 months to come out?
why did she lie to Nancy Grace and say she was in South Portland??
why won't she clarify her itinerary that day with time stamps?
why has Jessica Reynolds vanished? she was Ayla's main caretaker, now she is in the wind.

i lost a lot of respect for the investigation when they used the statement 'straight face test'.
an investigation should be built on facts and evidence and carried out professionally, not like some hi stakes tv poker match.
i think LE should have been forthcoming with information by now.
it is beyond ridiculous to tell the public there are 'tests'(i assume forensic?) still incomplete.
LE needs to tell the public where we stand on finding Ayla and be honest with us.
as to your question about ongoing searches:
i believe there is also a push for more funding for home security (Maine is a border state entitled to special funds i think).
Massey's (premature) special press release concerning SAR,(praising them and thanking the community for free food etc) and the over the top press coverage of a boy who recently wandered off,(found by a civilian ironically), coupled with many of the 'searchers' getting higher certifications (which mean earned pay hikes) through Ayla searches as well as the godsend of overtime in a strapped economy gives me the impression that some of these searches are the theater of a budget-driven agenda.
it's all very confusing since there are so many departments involved.
SAR is an honorable profession and i do believe LE wants to solve this case but searching willy nilly doesn't make much sense to me given the time elapsed and the sheer immensity of Maine's rugged lands."

Maggie said...


Peter, below is the link to the newspaper article and comments--the comments by the poster from Lewiston, ME were notable because they continued for a year and a half and because they were extraordinarily angry and bashing towards Trista and her family.



http://www.topix.com/forum/city/south-portland-me/TKDQPU8O2QO222V3V

rob said...

Looking at the photo above, I'm thinking this is one happy-go-lucky girl, getting on with her life, who just happened to have been kid-napped, and had her mother and brother brutally killed, all with-in a month or so.
She is so unreal, I can't believe the father hasn't shut her down. His young and wife (or Ex)were the other victims. Or the only victims.

rob said...

Add 'son' to the comment above.

Anonymous said...

get that hotel person on an interview!!! cover him/her in shadow, etc.



the dad knows ---------- but the dad has got to feel conflict --- protect his daughter or protect his own safety. rt now he's trying to ignore the reality. but not getting far with that I suspect. he MUST REALIZE she's guilty --- hearing everything she says off camera too.

Anonymous said...

ambian doesn't knock you unconscious for exactly the time it takes you to get to idaho --- not like an on off switch.

also it's a pill you gotta swallow.

Anonymous said...

Tina's car was there, remember LE had a DNA kit and media falsely reported it was in the car, but I remember they said her car was there and her mug was in it or something...

Anonymous said...

I'm working on a transcript of the entire interview now - this will be my first attempt to analyze on my own. Only about 4 minutes in and lots of changes in tense, several times not finishing sentences. also noticing "so" "because" etc. I can't wait to see everyone elses analysis to compare to mine when I'm done!!

Carnival Barker said...

@ Vita,
So glad to see you're back! I always look for your comments, as they are always so insightful.

john said...

My take on Hannah Anderson's Body language.

Updated:

When doing a Body Language Analysis i prefer to watch it with the sound turned down before i see or hear the words spoken.By watching it with the sound down we can concentrate on her Body language without getting distracted by what she is saying.The reason i do this is.If i pick up on micro expression, and or Body language movements i will take note of were they appear.I will then go back and watch it with the sound up and see what was said for them to display these actions,and whether they are sensitive questions or not.

Although this is a retrospective analysis on Hannah Anderson, it is still quite interesting to note her facial reactions and her body language,or lack of it given what she is talking about.. In the short clip with Today News(Full interview being aired later today).

She is asked "Did you feel in fear of your life"

She reply's.

"Yeah, when we got into the house after he told me the plan".

There is a very slight lowering and contraction of her eyebrows.This, according to EKman can mean the person is either feeling sad,distressed,or is feeling guilt.

She goes on to say.

"He made me play Russian Roulette with him on the couch"


Interviewer buts in and says ."with a real gun"..This is a no no.She is putting words in her mouth.She should let her speak freely and introduce her own words!

Hannah says.

"Yeah.And when it was my turn i started crying and like was freaking out.and he said do you want to play,and i said no and was crying and he said ok."


Were is the sadness(apart what from what i mentioned above,however,it could be any of the three i mentioned ?)

Were is the anger towards him ?.

were is the fear ?.

Were is the disgust towards him?.

Given that she is allegedly recalling an horrific event ?.

These emotions are all missing,i would expect to see at least one of them if not all...

She is also holding he right wrist with her left hand.This could be a self comforting gesture,or she may have a sore wrist..

Hannah may display all the emotions i have listed here when the full interview is released,we will have to wait and see.


http://www.today.com/video/today/53225870

.............................

Update:

There are numerous Body Language cues in this interview,i will just touch on Hannahs tears.

When Hannah talks about her mum and brother she starts to cry,we can all see the tears,however,there is some very important,and highly reliable signs we look for in sadness.These are the eyebrows.When someone is upset the eyebrows angle upwards in the corners,and most often there is slight wrinkling in the center of the fore head. Hannah does not display any of these actions when she cries.I would personally have doubt if she was upset at this moment.

If you watch the interviewer when she is talking about Hannah receiving the news about her Mum and brother,she is displaying the signs of sadness in the eyebrows and central fore head that are missing in Hannah.She is actually empathizing with her.

The last 4 1/2 mins will not play for me.so i don't know if in the last for mins of this vt Hannah displays these reliable signs of sadness.

To finish,as i stated above earlier,she still does not show any anger,disgust towards Di Maggio,i would also expect to see some fear when she is recalling the events of what allegedly happened.


http://www.today.com/video/today/53242928/#53242626

Anonymous said...

Of the Russian roulette. "My turn" : she is owning it. to me, this is unexpected. if someone made me play Rr, it would be "when I was forced" not "my turn".

Also....how if she did not see her brother gagged, would she know he was gagged? She says he was "trying to scream". That is unexpected. I would think a more straight forward answer would have been "I heard him screaming". It was muffled." Describing what she heard...as she says, not what she saw unless she really saw it.

Anonymous said...

@John interesting post, I see in one statement you have this... She is asked "Did you feel in fear of your life"

She reply's.

"Yeah, when we got into the house after he told me the plan".

Why would she choose to say THE plan, instead of his plan? Very telling girl. I just think she is going to get away with two murders she helped plan with her love-interest.

Jo said...

She says at one point she heard her brother upstairs but his mouth was gagged. How did she know that since she never saw him and nothing was left of his body to determine he was gagged.

Anonymous said...

I don't know if any person who sees this interview thinks she's telling the truth. this is a basic case of very obvious lying. so much so -- it's almost boring -- loses tension. BUT my question is ---- will she face anything legally???? What is still possible? Is case closed or can she still be charged with conspiracy? Murder? Lying to police??? Fleeing crime scene?

Suzanne said...

"knowing that people were looking for me and that they’re on my side.”

-Something very strange about the "on MY side" comment. The people looking for her were "on her side" who's side were the rest of us on? Her mom & brother's side? DiMaggio's side? Side of What? Maybe an argument with someone?

Anonymous said...

I am listening to the video on Today of Hanna.

What is with these reporters? They just assume everyone is telling the truth and do not question things that clearly look off.

I also watched a DVR episode on Jane Velez on the Maccan parents and talked about these parents as total victims. Saying basically there was no reason for them to have ever even been suspects. She even talked about their "listening" to the kids rather than actually staying with them as it was totally normal and said they were close.

Do these reportors listen or even know the facts in the cases or do they just read what they are told to read.

I mean these parents left 2 and 3 year olds alone. That is beyond dangerous and neglegent no matter how you look at it. Kids that age dont always sleep through the night. They get things, touch things, put things in mouths.

I stopped watching Nancy Grace because she was not "investigating' as she claims she does on her commercials, but just reporting what ever the popular topice was.


These reporters are just reading a story. They clearly do not pay attention to the facts or ask the important questions.

Anonymous said...

anon @ 4:59, I agree totally with you, and I stopped bothering with Nancy Grace and the gang there at HLN too when I noticed them accept things which are off. I also hate the way JVM yells, cutting everyone off just to yell some more even if she missed the point, and that screwy Dr. Drew, who I feel sure isn't a doctor (Dr. Phil comes to mind too as far as charlatan doctors go). What a sad lot of *reporters* and *news anchors* smh.

Jo said...

At the very least, she gives Jim's family a legal reason for going after LE. He was shooting in the air for help and they shot him.

I am surprised the interviewer did not ask her why they were signaling for help. If he was attempting to get help, draw attention to themselves, how was Hannah in danger?

Jo said...

When she talked about carrying one back pack and then going back for the other - that made no sense unless Jim was carrying one and her the other. I think it was probably when she couldn't carry hers any longer, Jim carried his and then went back for hers.

As far as RR goes, she was handcuffed at the time. The point of RR is that you pull the trigger yourself. Would he really take a hostage, tell her his plans and hand her a loaded gun? I doubt it. If he kept possession of the gun, it was not RR, he held a loaded gun to her head and would have pulled the trigger instead of asking if she wanted to play.

Also, if Mom was in garage and Hannah did not know she was dead, that means Jim's vehicle was outside. He drugged her and carried her to the vehicle outside chancing that someone would see her. And put her in the front seat where other motorist would see her drugged out instead of laying her across the back seat.

Anonymous said...

Something very fishy about Hannah's story......

BostonLady said...

I watched the interview but with interruptions so I need to go back and re-watch again. What really stood out to me is that her father only once reached out to comfort her and that was very awkward. She sat with her arms gripping each other as if to contain herself. She hesitated in some responses and she used "We" "Jim and I " And then the russian roulette GAME? Game? Most would say I was forced to play russian roulette, not russian roulette game. And she said that she had handcuffs on her wrists and ties on her ankles, how was she going to hold a gun ? And why wouldn't she take the gun and shoot at "Jim"? By then she knew her mother and brother were in the garage... or wait, was her brother upstairs ?? She stated both.

The camera did pan over to the father as Hannah was making statements and you could see a flinch on the father's face at some of what she was saying. That was telling. And again, he didn't hug her, comfort her.. There was one statement where she seemed to slam her Dad too. (I definitely need to rewatch)

I don't think Hannah is telling the complete truth. The reporter said there were very grisly details that they were not going to go into but the Sheriff has stated clearly that Hannah is the victim here..

MizzMarple said...

Anonymous said...

I don't think LE wants back in. I think they have something to hide themselves --- the shooting/killing of Jim when he wasn't shooting @ them. It would be one hell of a hurdle for the to choose to reopen this case.

but .... she KNEW Ethan was gagged. And she was YELLING HIS NAME BUT COULDN"T HELP>? or wouldn't. why just yell his name -- why not _call_ out -- I love you -- where are you --- help me --- etc.

October 10, 2013 at 2:33 PM
-------------------------------

I agree -- LE screwed this up big time, and she is going to get away with murder !

And speaking of LE, this is the same Sheriff and crew who said that Rebecca Zahau Nalepa committed "suicide" -- Rebecca was murdered !

Hannah's "stories" about little Ethan and her mother are all LIES ... I think there were some serious issues between her and her family, and with the help of this "family friend," he helped Hannah accomplish what she wanted.

All JMO !

Maggie said...

The Russian roulette story is the strangest detail of all. She's claiming the abductor played the game with himself and then says "when it was my turn I started to cry" and then he lets her not play Russian roulette. In my opinion it sounds either a) completely made up or b) like they were making the mother and brother play Russian roulette. How could it be "her turn" unless there were other people being forced to play the game? Very doubtful the abductor played the game w himself!!!

Carnival Barker said...

I just transcribed the interview. How can I post it here?

Transcribing her words verbatim (I'm a court reporter) made some inconsistencies and oddities stand out:

1-She first said she was handcuffed and zip-tied when she walked into the house. Then she said they played Russian roulette. How did she hold a gun to her own head if she was handcuffed? Why would he bother handcuffing her if he was going to handcuff her hands in front? If he was holding the gun to her head wouldn't she have just said, "He held a gun to my head" and not that they played Russian roulette?

2-She said the first thing that made her suspicious about the day was when they got to his house and her mother's car wasn't there. She just asks DiMaggio, "Where's the car?" not, "Where's my mother?" It almost made me feel like she was asking where the car was because she wanted to know how he had executed that part of their plan.

3-She also said she knew something was wrong immediately when the car wasn't there and when she asked where it was she went on a tangent about Ethan had a friend that lived next door so they were probably next door. Why would Tina need to drive next door? And even if she did, would she pull into the neighbor's garage? Wouldn't the car still be visible?

4-The moment when Guthrie tells her the hikers who rescued her were there and asks if she wants to meet them is completely bizarre. Hannah makes this weird face when she didn't think the camera was on her. It was like she was saying, "Okay, this is awkward." She credits these people with saving her life, but when they come out she could only manage to give them a one-armed hug and a back tap and won't make eye contact with them.

5-When she describes DiMaggio setting a fire as a signal for help, I was like Say What?!?!? Why is he now signaling for help? She said she told him to shoot his gun in the air 3 times because she read that that means SOS. He shoots twice and the next thing she knows there is all this gunfire and he drops. She said she saw him fall and asked, "Are you okay?" Why would she care if her captor/rapist is all right?

Anonymous said...

What conversation took place that led up to the need for "DiMaggio assured her at the time that her mother, Christina Anderson, and 8-year-old brother, Ethan, were alive." ???

Did she ask if they were dead? Why would she even speculate that?

I think she knew exactly what was going on. This whole thing is a setup that started with her telling her friend the he "creeped" her out. She was setting the stage!

Anonymous said...

I have a question about how RR is played. Isn't it played with a revolver where the chamber is spun before each "turn?" I wonder if she could describe the type of gun used for both the "game" of RR & for the shootings? Are revolvers still manufactured? Is "revolver" the proper term for the type used for RR? Can RR be "played" using another type of gun?

Anonymous said...

Hannah says, "He made me play Russian Roulette with him on the couch"...yet she then says she DID NOT play it! It came her turn and she cried and said NO.....what a filthy liar she is!

If she had of played RR like she was MADE to do, then she could tell a better story....he never forced her to do anything.

Anonymous said...

@anon 6:42pm- They still make and sell them, normally they are a 6 chamber gun, but they can be 8. In the game you empty all chambers but one and it has a bullet.....

Anonymous said...

There wouldn't be much point to playing russian roulette with a spring loaded magazine..

Sella35 said...

@Carnival Barker, you should send the transcript to Peter on Facebook account.

Also, I agree with you on missing VitaK I was worried about her and glad to see she is back again.

nice posts, you are so right, how is she using a gun to play RR with her hands behind her back? I am going on your knowledge here, as I have not seen the interview yet. Thanks for the post, <3 Sella

Anonymous said...

the rulette thing is just pure B.S. there was no gun for it and no reason for it. she's trying to tell a cool story about bad things happening --- she probably saw it in a movie or something. Maybe she watched deer hunter. There's just not a smidge of truth to it.

she doesn't know how to fill the time in her account -- they were murdering during that time -- she's trying to think of something to say they were doing instead. it's just nonsense.

if she was a smart liar she'd say he never even took her to the house they just straight hit the road -- there's no explainable reason for him to take her back there first if they didn't do the murders together.

Anonymous said...

look at her eyes when she says he made me play russian roulette -- she's so proud -- like she thought of something good.

Sella35 said...

I think one of the anon posts has it RIGHT! The police have closed this and declared this girl innocent. For reasons we do not understand or know.

My personal opinion is the sister of DeMaggio has it right. The girl used him. I bet we see her name again in the newspapers, sometime, in the future.

SALurkerOne said...

Peter:

Girl missing from Conway, NH:

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/259465/314/Search-underway-for-missing-Conway-NH-teenager

Anonymous said...

The court transcriber needs to send this info to the police. NEEDS to. This is too important not to share with them. Who knows if they've even picked up on this? Well done.

Maggie said...

Anon @ 6:55--That's exactly what came into my mind was the movie "Deer Hunter" after hearing Hannah say he "made her play Russian roulette".

Shelley said...

PART ONE OF TWO Hannah on the Today Show
Now I am still very new with SA. But her appearance on the Today show was very interesting to me. They had the transcripts on the site but as I was listening and reading along I realized there were lots of typos and missing info so I didn’t copy and paste the whole interview. But the parts I have quoted below I corrected the errors. I would love Peter to analyze or Hobs!
First, he told her he was going to “kidnap her”?
Do Kidnappers tell their victims “I am going to kidnap you”? Maybe she was just stating what is known, but I would think if she was really recalling this moment she would have switched to his language?. She never does that. Peter?
She with regards to where her mom and brother she says he told her
“that the whole time that they were alive the whole time. But I didn’t know.
She says “the whole time” twice. I know Peter talks about when something is repeated there is sensitivity… She also stated that she was restrained for 2-3 hours before she was drugged. So what was going on this whole time?
Then the interviewer asks her:
“From what I understand, there was a time when you were in the house that you thought you heard your brother”
Hanna said already that even though Jim told her they were alive, that she “didn’t know”.
She replies
“Yah, I heard him um trying to yell upstairs, but he was um gagged so I couldn’t do anything to help him. I was yelling his name. But I couldn’t do anything.”
He was gagged so that is why should couldn’t help? She doesn’t say why she couldn’t help. I would really want to know more about all that happened in these 2-3 hours.
She also says um here twice but unless I missed it, I didn’t catch it in the rest of her interview so I think this is important? Anyone?

Then on the hikers
“I remember hearing them come behind us the first time and Jim would say, don't, act normal. if you say something, i'm going to have to kill them. so I’d have to sit and act normal. and they'd come up and look at us and we would be quiet but Jim would talk to them and then they'd left.”

Verb tense here:
“Jim would say” instead of “Jim said” or “Jim told me” since she was being “forced”
“I’d have to sit and act normal” instead of “I had to sit and act normal”
“they’d come up and look at us” instead of “they came up and looked at us”
“Jim would talk to them and then they’d left” instead of “Jim talked to them and then they left”

Shelley said...

PART ONE OF TWO Hannah on the Today Show
Now I am still very new with SA. But her appearance on the Today show was very interesting to me. They had the transcripts on the site but as I was listening and reading along I realized there were lots of typos and missing info so I didn’t copy and paste the whole interview. But the parts I have quoted below I corrected the errors. I would love Peter to analyze or Hobs!
First, he told her he was going to “kidnap her”?
Do Kidnappers tell their victims “I am going to kidnap you”? Maybe she was just stating what is known, but I would think if she was really recalling this moment she would have switched to his language?. She never does that. Peter?
She with regards to where her mom and brother she says he told her
“that the whole time that they were alive the whole time. But I didn’t know.
She says “the whole time” twice. I know Peter talks about when something is repeated there is sensitivity… She also stated that she was restrained for 2-3 hours before she was drugged. So what was going on this whole time?
Then the interviewer asks her:
“From what I understand, there was a time when you were in the house that you thought you heard your brother”
Hanna said already that even though Jim told her they were alive, that she “didn’t know”.
She replies
“Yah, I heard him um trying to yell upstairs, but he was um gagged so I couldn’t do anything to help him. I was yelling his name. But I couldn’t do anything.”
He was gagged so that is why should couldn’t help? She doesn’t say why she couldn’t help. I would really want to know more about all that happened in these 2-3 hours.
She also says um here twice but unless I missed it, I didn’t catch it in the rest of her interview so I think this is important? Anyone?

Then on the hikers
“I remember hearing them come behind us the first time and Jim would say, don't, act normal. if you say something, i'm going to have to kill them. so I’d have to sit and act normal. and they'd come up and look at us and we would be quiet but Jim would talk to them and then they'd left.”

Verb tense here:
“Jim would say” instead of “Jim said” or “Jim told me” since she was being “forced”
“I’d have to sit and act normal” instead of “I had to sit and act normal”
“they’d come up and look at us” instead of “they came up and looked at us”
“Jim would talk to them and then they’d left” instead of “Jim talked to them and then they left”

Shelley said...

PART TWO OF TWO Hannah on the Today Show

She is asked
“What do you remember about that moment? “What did you see and hear”? (Referring to the moment the authorities confronted Jim)
“I was on the ground in front of the fire. He was trying to start a fire to signal for help.
And um, Then all of a sudden the fire wasn't working. So i told him, I said that I read in a book that if you fire a gun in the air 3 times that means SOS. So, he went to fire it once, And I was watching him and then he fired it the 2nd time but he like lowered it, and then a bunch of guns went off and I looked and he fell on the ground and I like kinda looked over and I was like are you ok? And then a bunch of the FBI people came out telling me to get down. And I was just terrified. I didn’t know what was going on.”

She says that she was in front of the fire then…. Jim was “trying” to start a fire. So was there a fire or not? She then tells us why he was trying to start one. But that was not asked.
AND THEN OMG! Why didn’t the interviewer ask why he was signaling for help???? If she got help he told her he was going to kill her. But now he is trying to get help? For what AND for who?
So then… Aside from the fact that I find it highly unlikely that right AT THE EXACT moment that the cops are about to “confront” him, Jim decides to fire his gun to signal for help? After being out there for several days why now? At this exact moment? What are the odds?

Here I almost feel like Hanna is trying to protect Jim by explaining why he had a gun and why he fired shots... Anyone else pick up on this?

So then she also says he “went to fire it once”. She didn’t say “he fired it” but like he only attempted? Then she says “I was watching him” FUTURE TENSE instead of “I watched him” and jumps into the second shot saying he fired it the 2nd time. Then the guns all went off and he fell. And in this chaos, she “like kinda looked over” and she asked if he was ok? That seems like an odd place in the midst of gun fire to ask your kidnapper if he is ok.

Terrified seems to be at the right place in her statement. But then even if she was involved, she may very well have been terrified at this point. I guess either way, if you have a bunch of guns going of that would be terrifying.

This interviewer already just assumed she was totally innocent and didn’t ask the right questions at a couple of places that to me are very concerning.

Anonymous said...

If this girl gets away with this she is going to be our next Casey Anthony. I don't understand why Savannah didn't ask her why he was trying to signal for help!! What an obvious questions. Wonder if Hannah's PR person gave Savannah a script & she was not allowed to deviate or the interview was off.

I agree with posters above, we'll see her in the news again, maybe this time she'll get caught for he lies.

Randie said...

1. MY INTENTION was just to carry his backpacks

2. AND AND AND AND (missing information).

3. a. carry backpacks
b. he was gonna live there
c. he’d get me home afterwards (this is our of order. It should be: carry backpacks, get me home afterwards, then he would live there.

4. Did she start to cry when it was her turn? Or did she start to cry when he said, ‘Do you want to play?’ And I said, No? She's not telling her "story" right.

5. Started? Means she started something and never finished because it was "interrupted"

6. Twice she says "when we got into the house" First she says WE which means unity. Second, this sentence makes me think that the mother or mother/son put up a fight or locked themselves in the house. Then the "we" had to "get into the house" !!!!!!!!

7. How did she know her brother was gagged??? She KNEW he was gagged! I believe once inside her son tried to fight back or protect his Mom, that is why he was seperated from his Mom and taken in the house. Remember, at first she told us that her Mom and brother were IN the garage.

8. She is drugged, she plays RR, she has zuppoes on she is handcuffed......etc....her story is screwed up because she keeps changing it.

9. THE plan?!!! Not his plan?!!!

10. She makes a point to keep talking about the "couch"---it is in her brain....marbles....

Randie said...

GOOD POINTS SHELLEY!

Randie said...

Excellent point Shelley!

"So then she also says he “went to fire it once”. She didn’t say “he fired it” but like he only attempted? Then she says “I was watching him” FUTURE TENSE instead of “I watched him” and jumps into the second shot saying he fired it the 2nd time. Then the guns all went off and he fell. And in this chaos, she “like kinda looked over” and she asked if he was ok? That seems like an odd place in the midst of gun fire to ask your kidnapper if he is ok. "

Randie said...

When someone says: "a gun" it is because in the statement it hasn't been the gun hasn't been introduced yet. After that it is called "the gun".

Hannah says: "Then THE guns all went off and he..."

1. He either had many guns at one time and they all went off or...

2. She KNEW of the FBI guns!!!

Shelley said...

If you guys look at google street maps, this is Jims address:

2071 Ross Avenue,
Boulevard, California

It is 2.91 acres.

So the comment about "driving to the neighbors" would make sense. But that is about all that does.


So I am curious about her statement that Jim said the fire was set to go off at 7pm. Was this the next day? She didnt say that but the fire was reported the followign day.


But she said Jim picked her up at her high school (Sweet Water) at 4pm. Now I find it a little odd as its a one hour drive from his house to her school based on map quest.

But maybe. But then add in the fact that he picked her up at 4pm. That is right at the start of rush hour traffic. So I have been near San Diego area traffic. A 20 min drive would easily take an hour. So I woudl want to add in some extra driving time.

So I find it interesting she didnt clarify if she meant 7pm that day. Or that he set it to go off the next day.

If he told her that day, well, if she didnt get to his place until 5:30, she was still there at 7pm.

I really wish the interviewer asked more questions.

Randie said...

She brought into the conversation the words "russian rullet"

It must have happened but not the way she is telling her story.

Shelley said...

Also noticed that the first 2 times Joe went to fire the gun. She just said "fired it"

It being the gun. She does not call Jims gun a gun but rather "it"

Carnival Barker said...

A few more observations from transcribing her interview:

1-The backpacks. She said she was carrying two 50-pound backpacks the whole time. Can a backpack even support 50 pounds? How is she lugging around 100 extra pounds with her through what she described as slippery, rough terrain while dodging falling boulders?? And, by the way, was there a scale in that backpack because how did she know they were 50 pounds each?

2-This part of the interview was chilling ...
HANNAH ANDERSON: "We believe he gave me Ambien, a couple of Ambien so that I was out sleeping cold the whole time, SO I WASN'T AWAKE FOR ANY OF IT."

Her brother was alive when she walked into the house because she describes hearing him, so I think the "any of it" she wasn't awake for was Tina and Ethan's murders.

~mj said...

Sorry if someone else got this, I haven't enough time to read all the comments yet. My point is this:

She claims she was drugged. (http://www.10news.com/news/in-interview-hannah-anderson-tells-of-being-drugged-handcuffed-and-her-own-self-doubts-10092013)

Yet back in August she said this:

"Hannah said she "basically" stayed awake for six straight days and repeatedly told her captor she was hungry. She couldn't escape because DiMaggio had a gun and "threatened to kill me and anyone who tried to help."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/14/hannah-anderson-breaks-silence-online_n_3754388.html

Whoops! Lying is stressful and one cannot recall all the lies that have been previously told.

Jo said...

When asked when she knew something was wrong, she said she asked "Where's the car?" Not where is Mom or Ethan. Then she says "When I got into the house, that when it all went down.......(fades off) from there."

She says he handcuffed and zip tied her but never mentions a struggle or any questions to why he was doing that. She started to cry about playing RR but not when he said he was going to kidnap her. I agree with prior post that he would not have used that word "kidnap". He would have said she needed to go with him or something else but wouldn't say kidnap.
She says "we" think he gave me a couple of Ambien but then says "when he gave me the pill" She claims to have been knocked out before getting into the car which she describes as "it was before we even got in the car". She would not have gotten into the car, she would have been carried and put in the car.
She then distances herself from the rough conditions in the mountain by saying "you would fall, trip, and slip down some stuff"
When she talks about the backpacks, she says "I had to go back and get the other backpack and bring it up again" What was Jim doing, just walking along side her or waiting 2 miles up the mountain for her to return?
When her father is answering questions, she looks annoyed and doesn't even turn to look at him when he mentions Ethan's birthday the next day. There is no closeness between her and her father.
Then when she talks about getting on social media, she says "I was just checking up on things cuz I was gone for a week" Really, what could possible be so important to check up on, what would be bigger, more worthy information that she would need to know about after being kidnapped and having her family killed? She then says she felt she had to answer "some" of the questions.

When she talks about Jim making a fire for help and then shooting his gun, I wonder if they hadn't discussed turning themselves in. When she said Jim shot one round and then lowered his gun on the second shot, I wonder if that shot wasn't from an FBI gun and that he never got a second shot off. Asking him if he was okay - very telling.

marietje said...

I just think she is Southern California shallow. However, the fire-lighting bit to signal for help does make me wonder. Peter, I would like to know if a person is incapable of using the English language correctly, does it have an impact on Statement Analysis?

Jo said...

Carnival Barker said - This part of the interview was chilling ...
HANNAH ANDERSON: "We believe he gave me Ambien, a couple of Ambien so that I was out sleeping cold the whole time, SO I WASN'T AWAKE FOR ANY OF IT."

Or was her brother given Ambien and that is why she mentions not being awake for any of it.

Lynx said...

In a prior posting, Peter compared her reactions to this "kidnapping" to other women who were genuine kidnap victims and the one thing they all had in common was they didn't want to talk about it.
I was a victim of a home invasion. Tied up, gagged, beaten (not raped, thank The Good Lord.) The perp is in a Nevada prison for 15 years on multiple charges.

My point is:

1)My story did not change. The trial dragged on for 2 years and still my story did not change . . . not one word.

2) After giving a verbal, recorded statement to LE that night(while in the hospital) I was not physically or emotionally capable of talking yet. My best friend called my family back East to tell them what had happened. I only talked about it with investigators and the DA's office. There was just no point in talking about it. A victim just wants to move on.

Hobnob said...

Hi Anonymous Carnival Barker

if you have a full transcript of what was said bith from the interviewer and hannah and her dad i wouls appreciate it if you could post it here.

With longer comments it may take several posts to show the whole thing, due to character limits ( annoying as heck) i have done analysis on something and i have had to post it over 4 or 5 posts. Peter may well then get the whole transcript and post it as a new topic making it easier to read yay :)

From what i have read things are out chronological order, there are dropped pronouns, we instead of i, contradictions, strange explanations as to why something was done ( why kidnap a girl after killing her mom and brother and then go camping in the wilds and then start a fire/fire shots to call for help?
She tells us things such as brother being gagged yet earlier she didn't know what happened, then his being gagged stopped her helping him etc. So far she has not said she was not involved in the torture and murder of her mom and brother, she has made no strong reliable denial as to her involvement, her explanations as to the calls texts and overnight visits are contradictory, she comes up with stories for why something did or didn't happen when she is questioned about something, such as handcuff. She made no mention about being tied up until someone on ask.com brought them up and now we have sensitivity about handcuffs in the latest version of event. her body language and behavior is unexpected. LE need to haul her in a polygraph her or have her intervirewed by an experienced statement analyst. She will fail spectacularly.

Lynx said...

I wouldn't be surprised if Hannah Anderson goes down in SA textbooks as a classic example of someone who made every SA mistake in history of SA :)

Sella35 said...

@ Randie said...
She brought into the conversation the words "russian rullet"

It must have happened but not the way she is telling her story.

October 10, 2013 at 7:55 PM....

IMO, she made this up, perhaps she had seen or knew of a movie that had it in it. It makes no sense that the man would kill a woman and child and then play RR to try to kill himself. Yes, I know that often people do a homicide-suicide. If that was what he was going to do, he would not have played RR, or set his house to blow up on a 20 hour delay timer.

This part of her story just sounds like a movie script that she is using now to try to SENSATIONALIZE her "STORY".... to get more air time and/or sympathy.

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous Lynx said...
I wouldn't be surprised if Hannah Anderson goes down in SA textbooks as a classic example of someone who made every SA mistake in history of SA :)

October 10, 2013 at 9:19 PM


I think Casey Anthony holds the record...sad to think he girls who look cute get away with murder..since this girl is about to get away with it as well.

Lynx said...

I agree Anon. Casey does hold the record. What frightens me is that perhaps LE and the DA's offices around the country are choosing not to go after certain cases because of the supreme financial cost and lack of available resources. I'm afraid that it's monetary not evidentiary.

Pak31 said...

I've seen many pics today of her and I am literally disgusted. She acts like nothing happened which leads me to believe she was in on this. Either that or she's totally unemotional, heartless and selfish.

Anonymous said...

this girl is unreal - her demeanor is so disturbing - she just needs to shut up and go away but she won't. As Peter says, liars can't stand not to be believed and she said that her purpose for coming on was to tell her story. I contrast her demeanor with Elizabeth Smart as well as others and it's night and day - shes puting on a act pure and simple. I feel so bad for her dad - the look of pain on his face when she said that she heard her little brother upstairs trying to call out for help is just heartbreaking. I hope investigators don't let this go and keep looking into her - there's something drastically wrong her. Her father deserves to have the truth.

Anonymous said...

I just noticed Peters title to this post..."Hannah Anderson Seeking Media Attention"... how true is that! I think it could just say...seeking attention..or seeking world-wide attention.


Not many kidnap or rape victim would come out and display themselves the way she has. I am trying to think of any cases, short of them being a witness in court that have came out very publicly.

This girl is an attention-whore...sorry Peter, you can delete this comment if you need, but that is the word I could think of when thinking of her.

Anonymous said...

amen Anonymous 10:08 pm. - she is a media whore - you would never know that she lost her mother, brother and was supposedly terrified for her life just 2 short months ago - It took Elizabeth Smart over 10 years to finally get strong enough to go into the brutal details of her assault - Lynx above nailed it - people who have been through severe trauma are physically and emotionally unable to deal with it sometimes for years if ever to get them to a point where they can talk to people about what they went through. The fact that she's posting, taking cheesecake shots, texting her friends etc. sociopath and now this is her what 3rd/4th t.v. interview screams SOCIOPATH and she was much more involved that she's trying to lead people to believe. I believe Jim Dimaggio was evil but Hannah is not the sweet little innocent victim she's trying to make herself out to be. What's next - her book and movie deals?

Maggie said...

I kind of agree w the poster who says she is Southern California shallow. The problem is no matter how much she may be lying or exaggerating or seeking attention, I'm not sure to what extent we can claim Hannah had free will in this situation. She was an unarmed teen girl in the company of a heavily armed adult male who was also a homicidal maniac. I'm just not sure how much power Hannah had in the situation?

Maggie said...

Don't get me wrong, I think her demeanor is very strange. She may have serious problems and may even be sociopathic, but I dont think she could have "made" DiMaggio do what he did and once you look at the situation--
he is a heavily armed male and she is not, she really has no power in the situation. If he's toting guns does she have power in the situation? I'm just asking.

Anonymous said...

Maggie,

I don't think we know that she wasn't the homicidal maniac in this situation, or at least not the only one. Just reading back through this thread, alone, lends a lot of question to her involvement.

play Russian Roulette said...

was jim's gun an automatic and not a revolver? lmfao

Maggie said...

Anon @ 10:45--I do get that there's something very off with her. But, DiMaggio was obviously a homicidal psycho, didnt he do this stuff on the anniversary of his Dad's suicide or something? Whatever he and Hannah's relationship, once he's toting the machine guns and going all homicidal it's all but impossible to say Hannah's got any power/say in what happens in what is going on. It is absolutely bizarre that she was allowed to go on overnight trips with him. If anything, if I was an investigator Id want to talk her father and ask A) why was Hannah allowed to go on overnight trips w DiMaggio ( most Dads would go nuts on the guy) and B) Why doesnt the Dad seem upset about any of it???

Maggie said...

Well, I suppose she might have been homicidal. If I was investigating it though I would want to go further back, find out what is up w the Dad. Since Day 1, I have thought he might have been involved.

Anonymous said...

when asked on facebook about Jim shooting first, she said he fired a shot in the air.
so cops come out on news and say Jim fired one shot in the air, lowered the rifle and fired a second shot in swat direction.
now hannah saying Jim shot twice?
looked over and asked if he ok... uhm did that hurt, it looked like it hurt, go ahead and cry, we know it hurt.
swat waited until Jim was a safe distance away from hannah before sniping him. so how did she just casually look over at him and ask if he ok?

Anonymous said...

UK daily mail cited LE as stating she is a victim....Sounds like they will leave it b and not investigate

Anonymous said...

didnt he do this stuff on the anniversary of his Dad's suicide or something?

did anyone ever look into that and see how much similarities there was between what his father did twenty years ago and what Jim did now? maybe 3 things were sort of close to being a likeness.

Anonymous said...

if you just lost your wife and son, why would you allow your daughter, who you almost lost, to have so much media attention? Wouldn't you want to keep her close and limit her interaction with others so as not to have another crazy person try to kidnap her?

Anonymous said...

Hope...

http://www.cbs8.com/story/23663658/interviews-reveal-inconsistencies-in-hannah-anderson-case

MizzMarple said...

Maggie said...

B) Why doesnt the Dad seem upset about any of it???

--------------------

$$$$$ Money $$$$$

A book deal is already in the works ...

They get paid for these tv interviews, along with "perks" ...

Fund Raisers ...

Carnival Barker said...

@Hobnob,
I made a verbatim transcript as a pdf; I just don't know how to post it on here or how to contact Peter to email it to him directly. It's spaced like a court transcript, so the margins are large, and it comes out to about 24 pages.
If anyone here has a suggestion for where/how to post it, lemme know and it's all yours.

Anonymous said...

The really sad and discouraging part is...

the same sheriff's dept. who opined that Hannah was a victim in every sense of the word is the same dept. that concluded Rebecca Nahua (sp?) bound her own hands and feet and somehow then managed to commit suicide by jumping off a balcony to hang herself.

There's some giant stinkiness hovering over San Diego.

Carnival Barker said...

Good call to the posters that called her out on playing Russian roulette without a revolver! Don't forget, she was handcuffed at this time too. She also said DiMaggio "forced" her to play Russian roulette, but when it was her turn she started to cry and freak out and he asked, "You don't want to play?" She said, "No." And he said, "Okay" and then he stopped. So I ask: Where was he forcing her in this scenario?

Also, some posters have mentioned that she may have gotten her Russian roulette story from the movie Deer Hunter. I have not seen the movie, but do they have any references to firing a gun in the air three times means SOS? She said she read that someplace. Does she read westerns? I'm curious to know where she gleaned this information. I've never heard of that. And she doesn't strike me as very well-read as much as very well-watched.

Anonymous said...

Anon,

Well thank goodness someone in the Media is paying attention to the many contradictions of Ms. Hannah.
Thank you CBS!

I am still at a loss of why her parents allowed her to spend so much time with Jim - long week-end trips unchaperoned by a parent. Hannah likes to dress in skimpy clothes and then hangs around a single adult male unsupervised. That was ok with the parents it seems. She is a highly sexualized woman from her pictures and from previous sexual posts on one of her social media sites which has since disappeared.

Her father seems strange in the aftermath of a very heinous crime. To think they will profit handsomely financially is truly sick. Why would Jim repeatedly bash Hannah's mom over the head? It's time consuming way to kill someone and shows deep rage/deep hate. A personal rage. The story according to Hannah and the evidence are not adding up. Her childish/hollywood style fantasy tales are obviously pulled out of the top of her shallow head.

Jim is suddenly building a camp fire in the hopes of being found is bewilderingly tagged onto the tale, yet the interviewer lets it slide?!

Carnival Barker said...

The whole Russian roulette story has been bothering me all day. It seemed like such a far-fetched scenario to randomly piggyback onto this latest version of her story. And then it hit me why she is now trying to float this story ... her fingerprints must be on that gun, the gun that shot her mother and brother, and now she needs to explain how they got there. What better way than being forced to hold it?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

It's interesting that Hannah says "We believe that he [Jim] gave me gave me some pills...Ambien...". Who is "we"? I think you'd know if you were drugged or not, after the fact. If you woke up 1137+ miles from where you last were and had no clue how you got there, you'd KNOW you'd been drugged. "Believed" is an extremely weak word for what is supposedly an actual event, she either was or she wasn't drugged. She should be able to state it definitively. She certainly didn't walk or jog the 1138+ miles.

Secondly, she later says "a pill". She says she didn't wake up until they were in Idaho. That's interesting, considering it's a 20 hr 44 min (plus or minus on the minutes) drive to Idaho and an Ambien is only good for 7-8 hours of sleep. Two Ambien is still 4 hours short, not to mention you only get the 7-8 hours if taken on an empty stomach. Food= reduced absorption= less sleep time. Not buying the obvious alibi building attempt: I didn't know my mom and brother were being brutally beaten and killed and the dog was shot because I was drugged and dragged out to the car.

I hate the way Savannah Guthrie feeds Hannah answers and excuses, like when Hannah states she "Ethan was gagged and she couldn't help him." Savannah should have asked why Hannah couldn't help Ethan. Instead, Savannah says "Because you were restrained right?"

Savannah, because she's emotionally invested in Hannah's story, continually "helps" Hannah throughout the interview. As an interviewer, she should be asking who, what, when, where, how, and why. Instead of reminding Hannah of what she's already said in previous interviews and on Instagram, she should be saying, "Tell me about...", "What happened...", "What did you do...", "What happened when you got to Jim's house?", "Did you see your mom/Ethan when you got there?, " Where was the dog?", etc.

Did you notice Hannah left the dog completely out of her account of what happened when she got there and the 2-3 hours she said she was there. When did she hear Ethan "trying to scream"? How could she hear him from upstairs, if he was gagged? Can a gagged 8yr old scream loud enough to be heard downstairs? Notice Hannah made no mention of seeing/hearing/being greeted by the dog at all. Why not? Wouldn't the dog have barked when she got there, as it was her dog?

Anonymous said...

I was working on an investigation with them, I'm worried for their safty!!

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Hannah's body language is really off. Almost the entire interview, she's turned entirely away from her father, except when he's basically verbally supporting her story.
Then, she turns completely towards him (as if on cue) and looks intently at him. As soon as he's done speaking, she abruptly turns her back on him again. It is awkward and unnatural, particularly for a girl who was supposedly upset at her mom for her parents divorce. She's emotionally detached from her dad. He's painfully awkward in his rare attempts to comfort her, nor does she seek his comfort at all during the interview. Interestingly, she hugged the first woman horseback rider (a stranger) with more enthusiasm than she showed her father sitting next to her.

When she "tears up", he makes no effort to put an arm around her and enfold her...nor does she seek comfort or shelter from him. When he talks about Ethan's upcoming birthday and looks pained, she keeps her back to him and doesn't seek to share his pain. It really is all about Hannah. There is no shared loss over Ethan. They might as well be an Idaho wilderness apart, sitting on that couch. I don't see a strong Hannah, I see a headstrong Hannah and a whipped father.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

O.k., so here's some questions for Hannah's next interviewer:

"When you got in the house, what 'all went down'? Can you describe that for us?" - Hannah's account is very skimpy on details. There's a definite time gap between getting in the door and being tied up with zip ties and handcuffed. Surely, Jim didn't just suddenly whip them out his pocket the second she stepped over the threshold. Where did she go when she "got in"? Where did Jim get the gun from? His pocket, a counter, a drawer, etc.? If someone pulled a gun on you suddenly, you'd remember and relay details like that because it's part of the traumatic experience engraved on your memory.

How did she know Ethan was gagged? She didn't say Jim told her. The only way she could have known that was if she saw him. How did Christine and Ethan go from being tied up in the garage (Hannah's Instagram post), to Ethan alone gagged upstairs? How did Ethan get upstairs? How did Ethan get upstairs without Hannah seeing him from her restrained position on the couch?

She describes a few minutes of Russian Roulette in sketchy detail, yet says she was there 2-3 hours. What happened for the other 2 hours and 50 minutes?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

There's no way Hannah Anderson, "hungry" and "without sleep for basically six days", "carried two 50-lb backpacks" in the Idaho wilderness. That would be like her carrying another 5'0-5"3" girl on her back. With her bad knees/ arthritic legs? R-I-G-H-T

In earlier interviews and Instagram posts she says she asked for food and implies he wouldn't feed her. In this interview, kind kidnapper Jim urges her to eat and drink. So, which is it? She can't have it both ways.

She swings back and forth between painting Jim as a monster/killer and a kind concerned man. He zip-tied and handcuffed her and allegedly shot her dog, killed her little brother, and beat her mother to a pulp, but never physically harmed her in any way during the whole ordeal..not even so much as a push/shove to keep her moving on the path. He "forced her" to play Russian Roulette, but didn't make her take her turn and considerately stopped when she cried and "freaked out". He supposedly made her carry both 50-lb backpacks at the same time, yet urged her to drink and eat. He allegedly killed her mom and Ethan and threatened her, but was building a signal fire for help.

Inconsistencies abound in her story; lots of them, and she knows it. That's why she has to keep seeking out interviews and making Instagram posts. She has to be believed.

She looks abnormally stiff throughout this whole interview. You could tell she was afraid of being asked something she might not have a ready answer for. She showed more emotion (albeit momentary trapped panic quickly covered by sticky sweetness) with the unexpected face-to-face with the horseback riders than she showed about losing her mom and Ethan.

S + K Mum said...

I read that Hannah said he (DiMaggio) told me 'the plan'. That is unexpected, should it not have been 'his plan'?
Her plan or a plan he came up with to help her get away?
If he burnt his house down aswell, he was not expecting to be going home, he was going to ride off into the sunset with Hannah.
I think she is a master manipulator and enjoying the attention from all this death far too much. A very cold person.

john said...

Hannah Anderson hugs riders who found her:

Body language:


"What if i told you they were right her"


Watch her dad.He shows a classic sign of embarrassment.He smiles avoids eye contact, looks down,and shifts his head from right to left.



Q: "Would you like to meet them" ?


H: "Right now" ?


Hannah does whats known as a Inward Lip Role (I,L,R). The inward lip roll is significant for the psyche attempting to suppress a strong emotion from being displayed and thus also simultaneously keeping it from growing in the mind as well. ( Dr. G. Jack Brown )

" I can bring them out,would you like to meet them" ?

H."Sure"

Hannah's displays mild fear/apprehention.Her upper eyelids raise up and her lower eyelids tighten.We see the whites of her eyes above her pupils.while the lower eyelids slightly cover the bottom of her pupils.This flashes on and of very fast.( Micro expression ) What Hannah tries to do just after right after this is cover it up with a smile.However, she displays what is known as a "Bitter Smile". Some refer to them as "Upside-Down Smiles". As it name implies, it is significant for the emotion of bitterness - the majority of which is usually self-directed.

We all display this nonverbal, not just politicians caught in sexual scandal.

The concave-down curvature of the mouth in this particular expression is perhaps one of the greatest examples of the lack of objectivity we all experience for our faces and bodies when we under the influences of strong emotions or moods.

When the bitter smile is made, those expressing it believe in real-time that their mouth is configured in a slight concave-up shape - that is, a weak social smile. And yet their perception wrong. It is just the opposite. ( Dr. G. Jack Brown )

When Christa walks out she puts her arms out palms up,to welcome Hannah into her.She then touches her chest with her hands.Her palms are flat against her body.This highly consistant with senserity.

Hannah stands up and doesn'walk over to greet Christa she waits for Christa to come to her.They then hug.Christa steps in to hug her,hannah leens in to Christa with just the top of her body.Look at the gap between their hips and legs.Hannah does not want to do this.Now,look at hannah's hands,they are not flat on Christa's back but,forming a mild loose fist.She is also looking around checking whats happening.

When she greet Mark she also stands her ground and waites for him to go to her.Whatch her right hand,it is flat on his back,so why doesn't she do this with Christa ?. it does though look like a one arm hug which is not good.We can not see the lower part of their bodie here,so we don't know if they are closer.

She then greets mary again its a one arm hug,but does place her palm flat on her back.Why is hannah so breathless while she is listening to Mary.I would hazard a guess that if you placed your hand on hannah chest her heart would be beating very fast.


Then comes Mike.This is worsed one of them all.If she leaned over anymore i think she would fall over.This also a one arm hug and her right hand is also make a loose fist,it is not flat.Her other arm (left) is behind her back.

In my opinion Hannah is not at all comfortable doing this.

There may be many reasons why she shows discomfort,she is after all only sixteen.My guess is she was caught on the hop.This to me was not planned.

http://www.today.com/video/today/53243067/#53243067







john said...

For give my spellings i was rushing it. lol

john said...

From Ask fm.

"I don't want to be rude or anything but something I always want to ask you is, why when the horse riders see you for first time, you say oh oh we in trouble now? Or why when you was in the car alone you never run, he never have you handcuff or anything."


Anderson responded, "How do you know he never had me handcuffed? Because there you are wrong. Don't assume things you don't know. Just stop."

I'm wondering if this was the first time that handcuffs was mentioned,or has she before this, talked about handcuffs ?.

If this is the first time handcuffs are mentioned,and by the way it wasn't her who brought it up. Could this be were she got the idea to say she was handcuffed ?.

sidewalk super said...


This girl rivals the "K" family in attention seeking!
I'm thinking we are going to hear about her exploits in another place, another time.
Possibly authorities are just sitting back and waiting for developments?

ima.grandma said...

Hi Vita, I wondered what happened to you. Your comments always make so much sense to me. I'm happy to see you return.

Ashley Pouliot said...

I don't see it.

ACH said...

“I was on the ground in front of the fire. He was trying to start a fire to signal for help.
And um, Then all of a sudden the fire wasn't working. So i told him, I said that I read in a book that if you fire a gun in the air 3 times that means SOS. So, he went to fire it once, And I was watching him and then he fired it the 2nd time but he like lowered it, and then a bunch of guns went off and I looked and he fell on the ground and I like kinda looked over and I was like are you ok? And then a bunch of the FBI people came out telling me to get down. And I was just terrified. I didn’t know what was going on.”
Jim "fires" it, then a bunch of guns "go off". Is this a change in reality?
Also, how does a fire you are trying to start, suddenly not work?

ACH

Buddy said...

There are 2 petitions wanting answers
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/guiltyhannahanderson

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-provide-answers-in-the-hannah-anderson-case-investigate-her-further
and one for Gore
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/impeach-san-diego-bill-gore/

Anonymous said...

ACH said...
“I was on the ground in front of the fire. He was trying to start a fire to signal for help.
_______
Why did the murderer/kidnapper want to signal for help?

"I like kinda looked over and I was like are you ok? "
Kinda looking?
Worrying about his well being, the question, "are you ok?" sounds strange toward her captor.

Anonymous said...

Good point about RR and having to explain her fingerprints on the gun. I wonder if that was her initial story or if she "remembered" that part of the story after there were questions.

Carnival Barker said...

@ Anonymous 10:29,

As John had posted upthread, the first mention of these mysterious handcuffs surfaced only after someone asked her on her ask.fm account why she didn't run, it wasn't like she was handcuffed ... and, VOILE, suddenly she's handcuffed.

I'm thinking as facts start to leak out her stories will continue to bob and weave around them.

Now I'm tempted to transcribe her Dateline interview too.

This is just an off-topic observation, but does it look to anyone else that she's had a nose job recently?

Anonymous said...

so he handed her a possibly loaded gun, click, click, click, boom, he would have been dead.

Hobnob said...

Hugs and smooches Vita I am glad to have you back mwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah xx

Hobnob said...

Hi Carnival barker. You can contact me via yahoo ( click on my name to check my profile) i can then see about getting your transcript for myself to have a play with and also for Peter to cast his expert eye over.

It seems that her story changes as questions about what happened are asked of her on ask.com such as the handcuffs and also as to why her prints might be on the gun. LE seriously need to haul her in for a polygraph, she will fail spectacularly.

Jo said...

She was previously asked why her mother didn't pick her up and she said her mother had to pick her brother up from his practice. Then in this interview, her first reasoning that something was wrong was when she saw her mom's car not there. Why would she expect her mother to be there if she was not available to pick her up?
Where was her mom's car when the house was set on fire? If Hannah was close to 16, she may have been concerned about the car because she knew it would be available for her when she got her license. Was it moved where it wouldn't be damaged instead of hidden in the garage with the body of her mother?

RealityCheck said...

On skyfm she was asked several times if she had a relationship with DiMaggio(due her minor status would be considered pedophilic and abusive in nature)...

Her response was she not allowed to talk about that/it.

She did not deny it.

This guy had access to her most of her life, and they spent a considerable amount of time alone together over the years...as a family friend of her Dad's and Mom's, a most trusted position.

During the interview, she has crossed arms, leans her body and knees away from her father, and never displays affection for him, nor reaches for support from him. She even seems to not want to touch him, or even look at him until the second time he speaks, which was about his friend Jim, and if there was any indication that something was amiss with him over the years...she looks directly at her father's face this time...odd.

She also says while stuttering that SHE was forced to take A pill (ambien she says they think), but also says that WE think he drugged ME with PILLS plural...

it is near impossible to force a sleeping/passed out/drugged person to swallow several pills without aspiring them or any liquid, or choking... ambien takes up to an hour to set in, and does not make everyone sleep either.

I get the impression she had a relationship with "uncle Jim", and that her parents overlooked it by not being aware and too trusting, so essentially allowed it to happen under their noses...perhaps this is why she displays what looks to be disgust or deep contempt for her father,little emotion, lots of distance, little eye contact or acceptance of his affection or support.
She leaves him out of the "people" who were there for her when she returned and who love her...but does list her teacher and BFF, and you can see the hurt and shock in his face when she says it.

It seems that the father does this often, and it is during times when it looks like she is lying or being very ambiguous or stuttering like she has speech issues...from the stress of lying and trying to remember past lies to keep them straight, which she sucks at doing...

She says she misses her mother and brother, but not loves them, and even describes with her hands the gag he had in, though she does not say how she knew what it looked like, or that he had it in his mouth... How did she know he was gagged,what it looked like, or where he was?

Hannah previously said she was told he was in the garage...

RealityCheck said...

I think she used her relationship with DiMaggio to get rid of her mother, but her brother died in the process as he witnessed some part, or was in the way...

This brings me to the people who saw them, she was upset they were seen, not that he was threatening to kill them...There is no way she was carrying 100lbs in packs, or stopping to go back and get one, as I do not think for a second she is conditioned enough to lug 50 lbs on each arm, or back one, bear hug the other...both packs would not have fit on her back at one time unless carrying heavy small items...

Also, I think she saw the agents approaching, and made the suggestion knowing he'd get shot, or at least get arrested after shooting, so she could still claim kidnapping and "it was all him, not me"...This is also why I question the "help call by fire"... if Jim was trying to hide out up there, and threatened to kill anyone if she alerted them, then why suddenly the need for outside help? was someone ill? Or was this her way of attracting the cops she already knew would be coming after the people saw and talked to them?

I think the horseback riders (or hikers?)mistook her fear for fear of her life, when may have been the fear that is resultant from getting caught red-handed at something terrible...

This kid is full of shit,but may still be a total victim...
If she had a relationship with "uncle Jim", because long term sexual and emotional/verbal abuse kept secret from even loved ones who are supposed to protect you, but instead unwittingly hand you over to the abuser, can warp a person even to the point of sociopathy, as they do not form a close personal bond with anyone but the long term abuser, as only the two together know the secret.

In this sense, the victim and abuser share a twisted bond which has the most "honest"(meaning no secrets,as they both know the molestation is occurring, and no one else does) relationship in a very dysfunctional and manipulative way...the victim never truly bonds with the parents as they can not tell them the secret, but may with a sibling, as the sibling often can be a victim of the same abuser(Jim took him on trips too), and is not a "protector", so is not responsible for the abuse in any way(parents who allow it are in the mind of the victim sometimes)...

Her father is protecting her out of fatherly instinct and out of guilt...
He seems very conflicted by his words and by his body language.

Hannah is so contradicting of her own "story", and has so much leakage in her language that one almost has to wonder if she is begging to get caught...

Jo said...

I also find it odd that she or her father had not previously reached out or met the folks that saved her. (horseback riders)

Carnival Barker said...

@ Hobnob,

I emailed the transcript to Peter through Facebook.

I even tried to create a blog and post the transcript there, but I couldn't get it to format correctly. It's all smashed together instead of in a readable Q&A format.

I'll keep trying :)

Anonymous said...

"I was just checking up on things cuz I was gone for a week"

wasn't she gone for almost 2 weeks? where did the other week go?

Jo said...

Just a thought on the fire... Could it be that they thought they saw or heard someone approaching so the fire that suddenly "wasn't working" was actually put out to avoid detection? She may have been trying to defend Jim early on when she said he was trying to signal for help. He may have actually fired at FBI agents as they approached but she wanted to defend his actions not knowing if he would survive or not.
I think she is torn between being the victim and not speaking badly of Jim. She certainly doesn't express any anger toward him.

Hobnob said...

HI Carnival thanks i look forward to reading it when Peter posts it

Anonymous said...

hahaha!!! so let's bring hannah back to where jim and her were hiking, toss a hundred lbs of gear on her, and ask her to show us how she managed!! :P yah, she barely looks fit enough to even lug 50 lbs through rugged and hilly terrain, never mind 100 lbs...me thinks perhaps *creepy jim* did most of the carrying while spoiled brat hannah worried about her nails and knees lmao....

RealityCheck said...

It is also a distinct possibility that "uncle Jim", instead of having a illicit relationship with the kids/Hannah, perhaps thought of them, especially Hannah, as his kids, and "loved" her in that way.

If she bludgeoned her mother in a rage/argument, he may have been "saving" her from the consequences, or perhaps killed her mother at Hannah's suggestion(we can only be together if she is gone)...something is very off with the entire case.

Anonymous said...

Hannah was most likely "Daddy's Princess" and mean old mom took him away from her because she chose to end the marriage. Girls like Hannah learn how to manipulate men by being cute and sexy and they learn this by their relationship with Dad when they are very young.

Ethan, however, probably took Mom's side. From what I have seen boys usually do in a divorce. This could have caused some tension between the two siblings.

As for Jim, Hannah's dad was supposedly his best friend so how did he feel towards her deep down? I'm sure Hannah made mom sound more horrendous than she was in her conversations with Jim. Also, did she know about Jim's father? If they were all like family it had to be something he would have mentioned. I suppose Hannah could have played upon this, but I don't know that seems a little crazy. Then again who knows?

I was looking at Tina's pins on Pinterest and a few things I noticed was that she was frugal, as in making her own laundry detergent and nurmous things like that. I'm sure money was tight after the divorce. Jim's offer of trips to Hollywood and whatever else he funded for Hannah, just made things worse. Mom wouldn't or couldn't be extravagant but her the things she wanted and It may have caused a lot of fights between mother and daughter. Then Mom starts to become uncomfortable with uncle Jim lavishing all these gifts on her daughter. She didn't want Hannah to be a spoiled brat. Did he do things for Ethan also? Why didn't he get to go to Hollywood? Since he was left in a burning house to die, I would guess he and Uncle Jim were not too close.

I also see that Tina made a board for Hannah on Pinterest and there is a lot of emphasis on dance and gymnastics, diets, working hard to achieve in these, I wonder if she was putting some pressure on Hannah(have you ever seen Dance Moms)?

Lastly, I notice on the boards that Tina was the dog lover here. It was her dog and not Hannah's. Tina really loved that dog.....

Anonymous said...

Tina's car was parked right next to the burning house, she couldnt have not seen it.

Anonymous said...

do you seriously believe hannah was under parental control during her use of the internet?
didnt she read the autopsy reports while in school right off her phone?

Anonymous said...

Maggie said...
I kind of agree w the poster who says she is Southern California shallow. The problem is no matter how much she may be lying or exaggerating or seeking attention, I'm not sure to what extent we can claim Hannah had free will in this situation. She was an unarmed teen girl in the company of a heavily armed adult male who was also a homicidal maniac. I'm just not sure how much power Hannah had in the situation?
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You're not sure how much power Hannah had? Everyone is dead except Hannah!
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By the way, the Reality Check posting is not the same Reality Check thats posts on The Caylee Daily ( which is me).

Jo said...

I wonder if Hannah originally claimed she didn't see the car and assumed her mother and brother were not at the house when DiMaggio kidnapped her. I think as she gets cornered in her lies, she adds details to explain them. I think the best thing that could happen is for her to get a book deal and spill all sorts of discrepancies.

Carnival Barker said...



Hannah is 16, right? What is the age of consent in California?

Also, her account of being drugged with the Ambien pill/pills is laughable. Ambien isn't chloroform; you don't black out instantly and you don't stay blacked out for the next 24 hours. It's well known that if you don't actually get into bed right after you take it, a side effect is that you start hallucinating and walking around and go into a sleepwalk trance where you are functioning but you are putting your socks in the oven.

Anonymous said...

interviews reveal inconsistencies

"NBC, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore said both Hannah and DiMaggio were "awake" when they were captured on surveillance video."

http://www.cbs8.com/story/23663658/interviews-reveal-inconsistencies-in-hannah-anderson-case

Anonymous said...

Who was carrying the cat and the rifle if he had only a water bottle in his hand and she carried two backpacks?
Why would a murderer want to start a fire signal for help?

Anonymous said...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57599665/hannah-anderson-i-texted-with-kidnapper-but-didnt-call-him/
Hannah says: "The, the phone calls weren't phone calls they were texts because he was picking me up from cheer camp and he didn't know the address or what like, where I was so I had to tell him the address and tell him that I was gonna be in the gym and not in front of the school just so he knew where to come get me.
____________________________
Starts at about 2:40
But here she says: "So he like, called me to tell me where I'm at and stuff. Nothing like, unusual"

http://www.today.com/video/today/53242928/#53242626

So which is it then?

sidewalk super said...


I agree she might have changed her nose, how much was "uncle" jim's life insurance?

MizzMarple said...

sidewalk super said...

I agree she might have changed her nose, how much was "uncle" jim's life insurance?

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The life insurance policy was for $112,000

Follow the $$$ Money Trail ...

Anonymous said...

Some telling comments from her ASK.FM account....

I know I am a little late but why would you read the articles about what happened if it makes you sad? :/ "Because I want to know what bullshit people are saying about me"

How do you keep focused in school and dance and everything with everything that has happened the last almost 2 months? I don't think I would be able to focus at all. You are amazing to be able to. Please share how you are able to do it. Give others hope.‎ "I break down at night. So I get it all out before the next day..."

What's your opinion about the girls a few years older then you who think your an amazing inspiration?‎ "It's amazing I'm so honored to be and idol to so many people." [she likes seeing herself not as an inspiration, but as an IDOL.]

Kayla is very depressed and suicidal, its not nice to bully someone whose hurting. Just let it go alreadyyy. Is it going to make you more happy if she kills herself? yu dont have to like each other. Just dont be nasty. Enough people have turned up dead lately, don't u think?????? "Too bad If you knew. You would know that we made up last night so how bout you mind your own business hahaha you just looked ridiculous" [I'm not sure what this was about, apparently she and a best friend hadn't been talking and apparently it escalated to bullying?]

Does it hurt to dance when you have arthritis in your knee? "Yes.!" [in a previous question she maintains that her right knee has arthritis and her left was just recently fucked up in Idaho]

Did you ever find your phone? "Nope. Whoever stole it is a complete ass"

a reporter just called me asking about you and this website. do they ever stop? "Please don't talk to them or give them any info about me. I'd really appreciate it." I didn't tell them anything, I'm not that low, I wanted to tell you so you can keep an eye out, I think its disgusting that they are bothering you this much. keep your head up beautiful. "Thank you so much.!"

what advice would you give someone that has been kidnapped or is in danger? "To stay strong and don't give keep fighting and gives clues as much as you can. People WILL be looking for you so don't ever think they are not. And to keep your head up and never let go."

Jen said...

Hi Anon 2:06

Hanna's parents weren't divorced, and I have not read anywhere that they were even legally separated. Reports are that her father had taken a job several states away, and that was the reason he was not in the home. (A job that he has since left so that Hanna could stay where SHE wanted).

It seems Hanna was calling the shots with ALL of the adults, except her mother who she expressed frustration about in her letters to DiMaggio (according to Hanna's first interview the letters found in DiMaggio's home were written by her to DiMaggio about problems she was having with her mother, and he was helping her and supporting her, which Hanna claimed was 'nothing bad'). I imagine Hanna's father is cringing every time she opens her mouth, but since he doesn't even have the backbone to keep his job, and make his minor daughter live where HE chooses, then I'm sure he can't controL anything she does.

Keep talking Hanna. You are on track to become a 'lying legend', just like Casey Anthony, Billie Dunn and Justin DiPeitro.

Maggie said...

I think Hannah's Dad is way more guilty of something people want to admit. Keep in mind DiMaggio was the Dad's "best friend". Yet, his daughter is somehow allowed to do sleep overs w DeMaggio. Who is the father of Hannah's little brother? Is it Hannah's Dad? The guy doesnt seem like he gives a crap the kid and mother are dead!!!
Obviously Hannah had noone parenting her! If I was her age and I went to sleepovers w a guy DiMaggio's age, my Dad would have kicked his ass!!!
Do the parents have any responsibility for minor daughter going on sleepovers w Di Maggio? She wouldnt be the 1st young lady lured into spending time w a much older man, but didnt her parents have responsibility to not allow it?!?!?!

Jen said...

Hi Anon 11:08

This girl is delusional, lol!

She thinks she is an idol to 'so many people'.

I hate to break it to her, but all of the high school kids who are playing along with her act only want to ride her coat tail to infamy. As in..."you know Hannah, that girl who was 'kidnapped', I was one of her best friends".

For myself, the only reason I have any interest in Hannah Anderson, or even remember her name, is due to the fact that I think her story is suspect. If I believed the Hanna=victim/DiMaggio=kidnapper narrative, I wouldn't care to here anymore details from her. Case closed. I am only watching her interviews waiting for her to bury herself each time she goes back on TV to 'get the truth out'. Time for a harsh reaIity check!

Amaleen6 said...

@CatNapper: I think DiMaggio's sister has the cat now.

john said...

Hannah said.

He said "Their both in the garage tied up and my house is supposed set on fire at 7 oclock,and then he said i put signs on the garage to help them be safe from the fire fighters before the fire reached the garage".

Ok,let me get this straight.We have a so called Psychopath who kidnaps a 15 year now 16.Ties her mum and brother up in the garage,sets to incendiary devices to go off at a certain time,intended to kill them. So why would he place signs on the garage to help Fire Fighters save them?

About the Ambien.If i had to hazard a guess(and i know i shouldn't given the rules of S/A) who it was used on,my guess it was given to her Mum and brother to sedate them making it easier to control them and tie them up.

Was a toxicology test done on all of them ?. If so have LE released the results ?.

sidewalk super said...


why is it every picture of this girl looks like it came out of her portfolio for "Playboy-the teen version"?

john said...

Hannah Anderson Update:

James DiMaggio, man suspected of kidnapping Calif. teen, died of 6 gunshot wounds, coroner says.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57606673-504083/hannah-anderson-update-james-dimaggio-man-suspected-of-kidnapping-calif-teen-died-of-6-gunshot-wounds-coroner-says/

MizzMarple said...

John said...

Ok,let me get this straight.We have a so called Psychopath who kidnaps a 15 year now 16.Ties her mum and brother up in the garage,sets to incendiary devices to go off at a certain time,intended to kill them. So why would he place signs on the garage to help Fire Fighters save them?

About the Ambien.If i had to hazard a guess(and i know i shouldn't given the rules of S/A) who it was used on,my guess it was given to her Mum and brother to sedate them making it easier to control them and tie them up.


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The signs on the garage make no sense at all ... the more LIES Hannah tells, the more LIES she has to come up with to cover those lies ...

As to the Ambien, I do not think that DiMaggio gave Hannah any Ambien -- this is another one of her many lies.

But I am going to take a "wild guess" and say that either DiMaggio OR Christina, Hannah's mother, had a prescription for Ambien -- and Hannah is using this to say that DiMaggio gave this prescription to "drug her" so she would "sleep" during the time she was "on the run" with him.

My question is WHY isn't LE looking into Hannah and her LIES ?

LE needs to get to the bottom of WHAT REALLY HAPPENED to Ethan and Christina at that house -- BUT -- they need to put aside the "shootout" of DiMaggio at the "river." These are 2 separate incidents and they should NOT be mixing them together.

REK said...

clipped from Anon 11:08

what advice would you give someone that has been kidnapped or is in danger? "To stay strong and don't give keep fighting and gives clues as much as you can. People WILL be looking for you so don't ever think they are not. And to keep your head up and never let go.



So giving clues is on her mind..the little pieces of her story that she is throwing out there so people are on "her side". this is a huge red flag to me. Whenever i hear guilty people defend themselves they often say 'there isn't any evidence to prove it', clues and evidence is on hanna's mind

Anonymous said...

I think it is interesting that it is still being reported that DiMaggio allegedly killed the mother and brother. How can it be a closed case if they haven't proven it yet?

LC said...

Carnival Barker~
No matter the Age of Consent, I think there is a Component to Statutory Rape as to the discrepancy of the difference in years of the ages of the 2 participants.
In other words, a 15 year old girl with a 30 year old man has a 15 year age difference.
The age differential between Hannah and DiMaggio would be at least 25 years.

Anonymous said...

Oops, I posted this on the wrong thread, I think.

Responding to Shelley about Ambien:

Thanks very much for making the timeline on the Hannah Anderson case. I've been wondering why someone in the media hasn't put one together.

I've taken Ambien. I took it for about 6 months when I was having severe insomnia. It only works for 8 hours (almost exactly), and it starts working very soon after you take it. (I'm talking minutes, not 10s of minutes.)

If you're not ready to go to sleep, it's possible that Ambien can "switch off" your memory. For example, sometimes my husband said we would discuss significant items before we turned out the light and later I wouldn't remember having had those talks. A few times I also encountered evidence that I'd been up in the middle of the night (like a water glass left on the counter) and had no memory of having gotten up.

I will say this: 8 hours is the MAX time Ambien worked for me. And it didn't "knock me out" -- you do have some control over your activities -- but it can produce amnesia if you don't go straight to bed after taking it.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Thinking this through...the whole letters from Hannah to Jim thing.

She said she wrote those letters last year, that she and her mom really weren't getting along, and she and Jim didn't have time to talk face-to-face or call. What about all those times he's been picking her up from gymnastics practice/meets and cheerleading practices/meets for years? How about all the vacations and sleepovers at Jim's house over the last year? She's saying they had no time to talk face-to-face or call each other about her mom. That's 365 days and no time to talk face-to-face or call? Do her cell phone call records support that? Did she not make any calls last year to Jim or to anyone else? When did she get her own phone? Notice she made no mention of texting Jim last year when she was "having trouble with her mom". Why not?

Did she have a texting plan last year? Do cell phone records show texts to him/from him last year? It's highly likley there's both calls and texts last year from Hannah to Jim and vice-versa. If letter writing is not Hannah's typical mode of communication, if she was regularly communicating via calls/texts to people, and if Jim was regularly picking her up from most of her gymnastic and cheerleading practices and meets, then why was she writing letters? If Jim had been picking her up for years, as both she and her extended family have stated numerous times, there had to have been time to "face-to-face" (even if it was after her friends had been dropped off on the way home). To hear Hannah tell it, she "had no one else to talk to". That's interesting, considering how socially connected she is (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Ask, etc.). She obviously has and did have friends her age to vent to... a otherwise typical teenage behavior. The letters are illogical for a girl who clearly and quite capably prefers to express herself via technology.

Another sticking point:
A teenage girl, carrying 2 50-Lb backpacks in that terrain would have injuries to her back, shoulder, and neck muscles (unless she regularly backpacks those loads on steep, mountain trails with loose footing). She'd have strains and muscles tears in both her upper and lower body. High school cheer-leading is a somewhat demanding sport, but it's not in the same league endurance-wise, as rugged mountain backpacking in the River of No Return region. I'd like to know how far in off the trail head they actually were. For a a girl with arthritis in her knees/legs (depending on her 1st Q&A or her 2nd)and no stated backpacking experience, she really put some experienced hikers to shame carrying 2 50-Lb packs up a mountain by herself. NOT.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

True to life, Hannah made herself the star of her story. Jim, the backpacker outdoor adventurer, needed teenage Hannah to carry his backpacks for him. Right. He killed her mother and brother and "kidnapped" her, just so she could carry his backpacks?

Notice Hannah never clearly states that Jim was obsessed with her- she hints around, but never states it. He must not have been obsessed with her because statistically speaking, he would have repeatedly raped her along the trail. She would have had rape consistent injuries, as well as defensive injuries. Her only injury wouldn't have been a twisted knee. It wouldn't have been a one-night hospital stay either. At her age, the hospital stay would have been followed by rape counseling, family counseling, etc. If he was unstable as she reports (repeatedly threatening to kill her), it's highly unlikely he would have been so self-restrained.

In her online accounts, she paints him as threatening, abusive (mentally, verbally and physically-i.e. no sleep, little food, carrying both backpacks, etc.). In the TODAY show interview, suddenly he's compassionate and kind- not making her play Russian Roulette and urging her to eat and drink during the climb up the mountain. Can't have it both ways!

Anonymous said...

Regarding the new details she exposed on Today regarding Ethan: "I heard him trying to yell upstairs but he was gagged so I couldn't do anything to help him. I was yelling his name. I couldn't do anything. She states that she was downstairs on a couch zip tied and bound by handcuffs yet she states Ethan is upstairs so unless she saw him at one point how would she know that he was gagged. Ethan may have had the Ambien forced on him and it began to incapacitate and sedate him and he could only produce a weak "yell" or "trying to yell" as Hannah described. Further why was she yelling his name if she couldn't do anything and she repeats this twice, "I couldn't do anything" She could very well have transferred her brother being drugged to herself being drugged with Ambien to fill the 2-3 hour timeline at Jim's house in Boulevard. The Ambien would not have rendered her unconscious for 20+ hours as she stated. If she were half her weight
as Ethan, possibly.















LC said...

She is just not mature or intelligent enough to realize how transparent & incongruent her stories have been.
She is just sure she has played the innocent teen victim card very well.
After all, the authorities told us that before she was even found. She wasn't a victim in just one or two ways, but in "Every Way".

Carnival Barker said...
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Carnival Barker said...

Sheriff Bill Gore's full statement from Monday's briefing:

I want to emphasize that during our law enforcement interviews with Hannah, it became very clear to us that she is a victim in every sense of the word in this horrific crime. She was not a willing participant. She was in extreme duress from the time she was taken from Boulevard to the time she was rescued in Idaho. It was also during the interview with Hannah, that she was first told of the deaths of her mother and her brother. Hannah also revealed DiMaggio had a rifle and he fired at least one round prior to being shot and killed by the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team (HRT).
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The sheriff also refused to discuss the rescue or how many times DiMaggio was shot, other than to say the suspect is believed to have fired first and that Hannah was nearby.
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I think the statements that I bolded above are the reason why the investigation is closed as far as LE is concerned. According to the sheriff, Pinocchio herself is the one that informed the FBI that DiMaggio fired his gun "at least once"; then he says DiMaggio is "believed to have fired first." Yikes!!

They shot this man 6 times. On the night of her ride home -- I mean rescue, the FBI spokeswoman said DiMaggio was killed because he shot at an FBI agent first. But now he is "believed" to have shot first, and this belief is based on their (super)star witness who has trouble counting gunshots beyond one apparently and was the one who told him to shoot his gun in the air in the first place!! According to Hannah's interview, DiMaggio was signalling for help; he didn't even know the FBI was there.

Anonymous said...

"According to Hannah's interview, DiMaggio was signalling for help; he didn't even know the FBI was there."

Carnival Barker, I don't get when she says he wanted to signal for help.

Why would he signal for help in hiding out?

Jo said...

I think Hannah saying DiMaggio was signaling for help was her initial statement when she was approached by FBI. At that point, she didn't know that she was "the victim" in the scenario so she was still defending her and DiMaggio's actions. She also did not know he was killed at that point.

Anonymous said...

i agree Jo
needed to send an SOS because she didnt have a starbucks.
she is excusing or explaining that it was just a misunderstanding? that Jim was innocent basically.
to me that is more proof that she was not a kidnapped victim in her mind... until LE told her she was.

Carnival Barker said...

@Anon 6:23 a.m.-

I don't get why she said he was signaling for help either. Makes NO sense at all. That was not her initial statement; that was part of the interview she gave last week on the Today show.

This is precisely why I think Hannah is involved to some degree in the slaughter of her family, a fake kidnapping, and a coverup.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Another very telling thing(IMO),doesn't anyone else find it both creepy and psychologically telling that the pictures chosen to represent Tina and Ethan at the funeral and on Hannah's T-Shirts are of Tina "silencing" Ethan, with her own lips tightly sealed? Surely there were other, really nice pictures of both Tina and Ethan that could have been used for the funeral and for T-shirts. IMO, that picture was chosen by Hannah as an inside joke because she either silenced Tina or had a hand in silencing both of them. I'm really surprised no one has mentioned this yet...seems really obvious. I'm voting pyschopath.

Just FYI, sociopathic tendencies tend to appear around age 12 from what I've read recently. Wonder what Tina would have had to say about Hannah the last few years.

REK said...

Foolsfeedonfolly Great point!! I thought it was a very odd picture to choose..and didn't connect the psychology of what happened behind it!!

Anonymous said...

I think Hannah Anderson should be pulled back in for some hard questioning. Everyone assumes she's innocent but alot of lil girls ruin lives with LIES

Anonymous said...

Did cops close the case yet or are they just giving Hannah enough rope to hang herself with?

Sossity said...

I found it very strange that in photos of her rescue, she is wearing a lot of makeup and her hair is brushed and curled. Not really how I would expect a hostage to look.
Another odd fact was the Idaho horseback riders who called the FBI basically said she was calmly soaking her feet in the river and made a smart ass remark to DiMaggio.
I smell bullshit.

Anonymous said...

I find the brutality with which her mother was killed quite telling. It was committed by someone filled with rage and hate for this woman. The beating around the head and face make this incredibly personal. Slashing the throat? To shut her up? I think Hannah killed her mother, and her poor brother was collateral damage. I am not sure but I thought I read while they saw some possible fractures to his skull, there was some indication he actually died from the fire. Did someone hit him on the head, or give him ambien, and he died of smoke inhalation? I think Hannah seduced this man into helping her commit this crime against her mother. He is by no means innocent but how did they close this investigation so quickly? What follows is complete fiction. He kept me alive to haul his backpacks? Really?
and #goodbyehollywood@dgoodbyemalibu@helloRIVER? no one asked about THAT?
Great comments on a sad, sad, unresolved story. I hope we see some justice one day