Sunday, February 23, 2014

"Statement Analysis With Peter Hyatt" Today at 6:30PM EST on Blog Talk Radio



Sunday, February 23, 2014, we will cover the latest developments in the disappearance of Heather Elvis, the 20 year old who has been missing since December 17th, 2013.  Specifically, we will look at:

1.  Possible Police Strategy
2.  What the Language of Tammy Moorer Reveals to Us

Join us at 6:30PM EST, with our chat room opened one hour prior.


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peterhyatt/2014/02/23/statement-analysis-with-peter-hyatt

61 comments:

Kellie Sue said...

MOORER, TAMMY LORINDA
MYRTLE BEACH, SC 29588 AMERICAN (US) FEMALE 03/08/1972
41 2/21/2014 8:50:00 AM incarcerated
KIDNAPPING - NO BAIL SET
INDECENT EXPOSURE - Disposed - $5,000.00 (2 Charges)
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE - Disposed - $10,000.00

Kellie Sue said...

Well I guess we know who caved! No additional charges on SM yet.

Anonymous said...

Awww. poor Sidney Moorer didn't get a chance to add his mug-shot to his wannabe actor/model portfolio...

http://www.exploretalent.com/sidneymoorer

elf said...

Just kidnapping? Does this mean there's still hope Heather is alive??

Sus said...

Kidnapping - the taking away or transportation of another person against their will. This can be done for ransom or in furtherance of another crime.

I guess we can deduce that Tammy Moorer held Heather Elvis against her will. Since it wasn't for ransom, was for a crime committed against Heather by Tammy herself, with further charges coming. Or for Sidney Moorer? We'll probably see his charges this afternoon. Or for someone else?

Either way Tammy Moorer appears to have set some crime against Heather Elvis in motion.

Anonymous said...

"Sus"you defend PEDOPHILES.your "opoinikn"is shite.

Kellie Sue said...

Bond hearing coming up!

http://publicindex.sccourts.org/Horry/PublicIndex/PIError.aspx?County=26&CourtAgency=26102&Casenum=2014A2610200461&CaseType=C

Maggie said...

If the kidnapping charge is in relation to Heather, wouldnt the DA be making a public statement? Also, if the kidnapping charge relates to Heather, what is stopping them from charging her with murder? What if Sidney is claiming Tammy held him against his will?

elf said...

I wonder if Sid is putting all the blame on his loving wife or if the police found evidence from the search warrents providing a direct link between Heather and Tammy?
Ever since Tammy's Facebook post slamming Heather and advertising her husbands infidelity, putting the blame on Heather, and reading Chelsea's article/blog after her interview with Tammy (where Tammy minimizes the affair) I've had Tammy pegged as a prime suspect.

Anonymous said...

On Sunday, the Moorers were also charged with one count each of kidnapping, according to the J. Reuben Long website and a deputy at the jail.
A representative with Horry County magistrate's office said bond hearings for the kidnapping charges won't be held until at least Monday. Copies of the arrest warrants likely won't be released until Monday as well.
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_a500148a-9c85-11e3-a92f-0017a43b2370.html

Lemon said...

snipped - (thanks for link Anon)

"On Sunday, the Moorers were also charged with one count each of kidnapping, according to the J. Reuben Long website and a deputy at the jail."

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_a500148a-9c85-11e3-a92f-0017a43b2370.html
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Good!

deejay said...

The video the police found was probably from a fast food place- matching the receipts found in Heather's car. SM and TM? Did they have poor Heather with them?

Philly Deb said...

Solicitor Jimmy Richardson said Sunday that the kidnapping charge is related to the Heather Elvis disappearance, but he couldn't go into details, including why the kidnapping charges were brought. He also couldn't comment on whether additional charges might be filed.

Philly Deb said...

Source: http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_a500148a-9c85-11e3-a92f-0017a43b2370.html

Kellie Sue said...

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_a500148a-9c85-11e3-a92f-0017a43b2370.html

Tammy Moorer's obstruction of justice warrant states she "prevented, impeded or interfered with an investigation to include but not limited to providing and creating false, misleading and/or inaccurate information regarding the disappearance of Heather Elvis and her and Sidney Moorer's activities in the early morning hours of December 18th, 2013."

ima.grandma said...

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2014/01/statement-analysis-of-tammy-moorer-post.html

Peter, I'd sure be interested in your hindsight look @ Tammy's facebook rant someday. I'm particularly interested in your thoughts on the anonymous comments of a.k.a. Tammy.to.be.or.not.to.be.

Wow, that is a classic example of

you can't outsmart me 'cause I'm a moron'

Anonymous said...

wow guess that settles that. super creepy thst they were doing their public expoduse at time of kidnapping. reminiscent of knox and raffi buying underwear days after murder.

kristi hurley said...

Hmmm... still I believe TM is mastermind and SM is the DUMB puppet

Nanna Frances said...

Peter,

Do you think Tammy is the mastermind? I noticed many comments of people who think that. I agree. Does statement analysis support this conclusion?

Sus said...

So...if they have charged them with kidnapping, is Heather found yet? Any news?

Someone please explain how the indecent exposure fits into Heather's disappearance. And yes, I feel like I'm back in jr high with my girlfriends giving me the low down on kissing and sex ed. Lol

elf said...

I bumped into another website a couple days ago called justice quest, its got threads like websleuths. On there I read several post regarding Tammy sending pictures via text of herself and Sidney in sexual acts to heather prior to her disappearance. I can't find anything else to substantiate it as rumor or fact but maybe that's the indecent exposure?

Lemon said...

snipped-

During the bond hearings, no attorneys were present. At around 3 p.m., attorney Greg McCollum showed up at J. Reuben Long Detention Center and explained because of the nature of this case and how fast it is moving this weekend, the chief public defender called him in to talk to Tammy Moorer.

"The most cautious approach to take is separate lawyers," McCollum said. He explains attorney Kirk Truslow is talking to Sidney Moorer. While this is the first time he is sitting down with Tammy, McCollum anticipates defending her throughout this case, even if more charges are handed down.

"There's been a long investigation, you have either a missing person or possibly a homicide, so clearly that's in the public domain, that's what the focus of this has been," McCollum said. "At this stage, I don't know what's happening for sure in the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if she or others were charged with a more serious crime."

http://www.wect.com/story/24785359/2-in-custody-in-connection-with-heather-elvis-case-police-confirm?page=1&N=F

Mr. McCollum seems talkative. Wouldn't "No comment" be more helpful at this point?

Amaleen6 said...

"The more cautious approach is to take separate lawyers."

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Yep, I do believe one or both of them is being encouraged to roll on the other, in terms of what happened to Heather after they kidnapped her.

Amaleen6 said...

Oops, sorry:

*"The most cautious approach to take is separate lawyers."

Theresa said...

I have a feeling murder charges are forthcoming. My current thoughts on what happened to Heather are as follows: I think SM lured Heather from her house and met him at Peachtree Landing. Unbeknownst to her, TM was either with SM or nearby and got her. She was taken elsewhere by TM, where TM exacted her revenge against Heather. I don't think it was intended for things to get so out of hand, but it did. TM forced SM to cover for her, and they hid the body.

Anonymous said...

Ughhhhhhhhhh! The car door "joke" is old and tired, and frankly wasn't all that funny to begin with. It is one thing when other people make fun of you for your mistake, Maggie, but it is not funny when you are constantly repeating it in every.single.thread. Saying, "I'm never going to live it down," and then repeating it all the time is very attention seeking. Let it die already.

Kellie Sue said...

When all the details come out on this one it's going to be gnarly. Could the pictures sent to Heather have been laying the groundwork for a 3some that went wrong? Heather may have threatened exposure? I think the public exposure charges have more to do with this case than just an excuse to detain them. Lot's of resources pay good money for videos of public nudity/sex. The security around their home hint at them being involved in something fringe.

deejay said...

As someone said earlier- more like the Cadet murder in TX about a decade ago.

Apple said...

Anon 4:43,
That is not Maggie, it's a troll.

Theresa said...

Kellie Sue said:

"I think the public exposure charges have more to do with this case than just an excuse to detain them."

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There was an article today that said the Moorers were caught on two separate occasions exposing themselves the night/morning Heather went missing. Once late the 17th and once early the 18th, two separate locations.

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Theresa said...

Apologies, Heather went missing in the early morning of the 19th, right ?

Here is the article I was referencing:

"As for the exposure charges, warrants state the Moorers exposed themselves on two occasions between December 17 and December 18.
The first instance occurred at Atlantic Avenue and Century Circle in Conway. The other instance happened in the 1300 block of Celebrity Circle in Myrtle Beach, according to the warrants.
In both cases, the suspects exposed themselves in a public place, the warrants state."

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_a500148a-9c85-11e3-a92f-0017a43b2370.html

Kellie Sue said...

YEP Theresa, the theme of this whole situation is sexual. Heather may not be the first one they've lured in. All Tammy's talk about open marriages and so on. Lots more to come out I'm sure and it will be twisted!

deejay said...

As someone said earlier- more like the Cadet murder in TX about a decade ago.

deejay said...

As someone said earlier- more like the Cadet murder in TX about a decade ago.

Maggie said...

Anon @ 4:43--I am not the one who writes the joke. When my name appears in blue, it is the troll. I should prob change my screenname.

Maggie said...

Reading the info Theresa posted, it sounds like the cameras were on the street. I'm not really sure how they work, but could they have been cameras at traffic lights (the kind that catch people going through red lights? This happened on 2 days in a row or maybe they were driving around before and then also after midnight? I wish they would explain the kidnapping charge!!!

Maggie said...

I apologize if someone already posted this, but myhorrynews.com is reporting both have been charged with one charge of kidnapping each.

elf said...

I think if pics were sent it was more of a 'I own this' kind of meaning rather than an invitation. She clearly felt threatened by heather (20 yrs younger, better shape, etc) and in the course of Sidney's ego rush I bet dollars to donuts that heather told Tammy what Sidney said about Tammy when they were beginning the affair.
I've been a mistress. I know exactly what the husbands say.

Anonymous said...

http://m.wmbfnews.com/#!/newsDetail/24799954

CarlaP said...

In regard to the kidnapping charge, I think most likely scenario is surveillance footage (which is rumored to be from the Socastee area, not from their property like some have speculated....perhaps a camera at Peachtree Landing) shows Heather being forced into the Moorer's truck but since they haven't found her body, no murder charges yet. Most likely LE is using the kidnapping charge as pressure on Sidney Moorer to turn on Tammy and confess the murder. If they have enough evidence to charge her with kidnapping, they have the leverage to convince Sidney Moorer to just confess and get a deal before Tammy does. I don't understand why people are interpreting the kidnapping charge as Heather is alive and being held captive by the Moorers. That seems absurd.

Tammy Moorer is a chronic oversharer to a shocking degree. Her public Facebook account (now deleted or locked down by LE), her incredibly inane and detailed posts on the Disboards site tell every detail of her life with absolutely no regard for her family's privacy. The names, ages, private details of her children, marriage, pets, earlier life and over 2000 photos she shared with the world with no hesitation...bizarre doesn't begin to describe it. It does however give far more insight into who she is as a person, and it's sadly fascinating. It's clear she is an exceedingly insecure about her appearance, needs to be in control of her relationship, regards her husband as another child, has serious issues with boundaries, and has a very strong desire to be associated with any level of celebrity. She exaggerates her association with celebs and in some cases it's clear she's just lying. Claiming to be "good friends" with Bret Michaels and CC Deville of Poison, buddies with Perry Farrell of Jane's Addiction, Vince Neil, the deceased Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon, the cast of the tv show One Tree Hill, forcing her children to pose with an assortment of minor celebs or in some cases forcing the celebs to pose with her children. Her fascination with fame is clear from her posts, and very off putting. She seems to live in a fantasy world of her own delusions of grandeur. She doesn't appear to have any social life outside her family unit, no mention of friends or work life, homeschools her children and spends lavishly. $1000 birthday parties for her young children, multiple expensive cruises and trips to Disney, extensive renovations on her house. Who knows what's the truth and what is exaggeration, but they seem to be rolling in dough, which in itself seems odd considering their occupations. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link, but I think it would be interesting for Statement Analysis.

Sorry for rambling, I fell down the rabbit hole reading her posts. It reinforced my intuition that Tammy was the mastermind and driving force behind whatever happened to Heather Elvis. In my opinion, dopey Sidney was along for the ride to appease his wife's desire for revenge. My heart goes out to the Elvis family, I hope they receive some answers soon.

CarlaP said...

Please let me know if posting the link to what I referred to in my earlier post is allowed. I couldn't find any guidelines as to what is/isn't allowed to be linked to and discussed.

Anonymous said...

Please post the link!

Anonymous said...

The ridiculous rules like at Websleuths is not here, you can post links.

Kellie Sue said...

Yes CarlaP, Tammy Moorer is clearly an exhibitionist in every sense of the word. Which is why I think moreER will be revealed, (sorry lol) as to the depth of their involvement in something very twisted.

Anonymous said...

Onetreehilladdict: Tammy Moorer

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3011143

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3011143&page=7

Anonymous said...

Very Insightful

JoAnn said...

The 1300 block of Celebrity Circle (where one of the indecent exposure incidents took place) contains Broadway at the Beach. This is where Twisted Kilt is located (unless gather worked at a different location). I'm wondering if LE acquire surveillance footage from Heather's place of work, and if TM & SM were there, did something hunky take place just a day or two before she disappeared??!!

JoAnn said...

Heather, not gather. Fingers twisty tonight!

Maggie said...

Carla--I did not know all of that about Tammy Moorer but I was very surprised by her oversharing on facebook of what should have been something very humiliating to her (husband's affair).
Any attention is good attention to a narcissist which it sounds like she may have narcissistic personality disorder (especially with her obssessions with claiming to be friends with famous people). Narcissistic personality disorder would help to explain the smile in her mug shot too (enjoying the attention).

CarlaP said...

I wasn't sure, figured I'd check before posting. Thanks for the reply.

I went through Google using the cache because the last time I checked last night, the post was missing. Not sure if it was traffic overload for the site or if the admins removed it. I saw that both Tammy Moorer's Facebook page and the one she created for Sydney are both gone now. I would assume LE have taken control of the pages and are using them for possible evidence.

The posts I found most interesting were #27 and #28 on page 2, which I linked to. The thread was posted by Tammy Moorer as a "Trip Report" of a Disney cruise the family took. Posts #27 and #28 are an "introduction" to readers of Tammy by Tammy. So, 21 pages of Tammy in her own words about every facet of her life.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_HQxCAO8oV0J:www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t%3D3011143%26page%3D2+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

CarlaP said...

On second look, the post #'s aren't showing up now, so look for her posts at 10-23-2012, 10:19 PM and 10:20 PM for the references I made.

JoAnn said...

In my post at 9:02, I meant HINKY not HUNKY!!! I sound like such a weirdo! My only excuse is that my fingertips are numb & I obviously don't proofread in a timely fashion.

Carnival Barker said...


CarlaP,

I think you are DEAD ON about TM! I also think in her DIS ramblings she strongly implies CC Deville is her youngest son's father and even styles his hair to resemble him.

I also wanted to point out that at this point LE would no longer be able to recover a body. Any remains that are found would need to be tested to ensure that it is, in fact, Heather. For all we know they are awaiting the results right now before they make a formal announcement. LE has been playing close to the vest the entire time Heather's been missing.

elf said...

No matter what anyone says I will NEVER believe Tammy moorer dated rockstars.

Anonymous said...

Maggie said...
Carla--I did not know all of that about Tammy Moorer but I was very surprised by her oversharing on facebook of what should have been something very humiliating to her (husband's affair).
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I agree with this x10000! My ex-husband had an affair, which was so horrifying to me that I only told my closest friend and my closest cousin. Two years of marriage counseling, and I recovered from it enough to stop worrying constantly, and he did it again! It was equally as humiliating the second time around, but I left him after that. However, most people don't know why. My mom only recently found out and we've been divorced since the beginning of 2011.

NEVER in a million years would I get on Facebook and tell people. My Facebook is locked up tight, and TM'ss is/was public. She's nuts and has no shame!

Theresa said...

CarlaP said:
Posts #27 and #28 are an "introduction" to readers of Tammy by Tammy. So, 21 pages of Tammy in her own words about every facet of her life.
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What the actual heck??? She really posted every "celebrity" she's ever happened to get a photo with, and acted like they were her BFFs!!! Someone should tell her that just because she goes to a concert and meets a singer, she doesn't get to claim they are her close personal friends. Same with going to see where filming is being done of her favorite TV show and seeing the stars. What a weirdo.

Do her kids ever smile? Her daughter seems to wear a lot of makeup in some of those photos from the Disney boat.

Anonymous said...

I found out about this case through the DISBOARDS. Moderators there are trying desperately to prevent any discussion of the topic. I've been researching it ever since people starting trying to post there that onetreehilladdict (her DIS name) had been accused of murder.
Anyway, I actually watched nancy Grace tonight to see what information was out there and they kept having text roll by talking about her Disney obsession and their Disney camper that was searched. Does anyone know if the Disney stuff is relevant or just Nancy Grace using a word that will reasonate with people. The mods at disboards are being awfully weird about the whole thing (other threads on high profile crimes are allowed). They won't touch her posts, wont' even take down the pics of her kids. I can't figure out if she has just been there so long some of the mods are her friends or if there is a connection.

Anonymous said...

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?p=34194142&highlight=nancy+grace#post34194142

Anonymous said...

Oh wow. Wonder how she feels about the death penalty now.

Tammy's words:
I love Ms Nancy! She and I see eye to eye. I would love to have coffee with her one day and discuss how the death penalty really should operate. Punishment in this country never fits the crime and it's long overdue that it does once again.

You think you're bad walking them to HIGH School!? I chose to teach mine here at home to avoid school all together. You never know who waits there lurking after our kids. You saw the news last week where the 15 year old psychopath girl killed the little 9 year old right? You never know....

Anonymous said...

don't have anything profound to add, just more of what you guys have already noticed. This woman is vain beyond belief, controlling, and thinks she's special. I think she wrote the facebook post about her 'stupid' husband, simply to minimize their involvement...as if to say, 'see? I'm admitting to this embarrassing stuff so you know I have nothing to hide. I'm an open book'. But, even while trying to minimize their involvement, she was quick to blame the victim and excuse her husband. Her vanity just couldn't admit that her husband wanted another woman over her, and she was determined to trash this dead woman's reputation. She's living in a fantasy world where she's in charge of every little detail. So much anger at this interloper for bursting her bubble. In her defense though, I read those posts by Heather, and they were in your face and challenging in a way that would be impossible for even the nicest person to take laying down. In other words, they were fighting words. This case reminds me of (sp) Dianne Zamorra? the military girlfriend who insisted her military boyfriend kill the other 'woman'? Seems there's mindset where the scorned feels the only answer is to eliminate the competition.