Thursday, January 9, 2014

What Happened To Hailey Dunn?


Did Hailey die as a result of a blow to the head?

Much has been speculated about the murder of Hailey Dunn, though no one has speculated regarding the responsibility for her death, as the mother, Billie Jean Dunn, and her former boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, have repeatedly indicated guilty knowledge in the death, but how exactly Hailey died has remained open for discussion and has been broadly discussed.

This has never been a "who done it?" but a "how was it done?"  With the "where is the body?" question known now, and even prior, when we knew it would be within the driving perimeter between Hailey's home, Shawn's work, and Shawn's family houses, there was not much mystery there, either.

We saw specifically sensitive language from the mother about describing her daughter on that fateful night,  and judging by the language and the known aspects of the case, she fell victim to a sexual homicide or a sexually charged homicide inside the home on that fateful night, the day before being reported missing, Dec 27, 2010.

There are some things we know:

1.  The mother was deceptive, from the very beginning, and while feigning her child to be "missing", actually revealed that Hailey was deceased, and that she, the mother, was in need of an alibi, quickly separating herself from the murder by declaring "she went missing while I was at work"  to Nancy Grace.

"She wasn't allowed to go out by herself at night..."  in the past tense, not the present tense.  This was not the only time she slipped out a past tense reference in the first few weeks after reporting Hailey "missing."

Perhaps it is, as many have said, that a jealous, enraged mother, fighting back the effects of aging upon the only thing she has known to be of value, her body, came upon her young, pretty daughter, being with Shawn Adkins.

Should this seem bizarre to them?  It may be bizarre to you and to me, but think about the "Norms" of their home, and not the norms of your own home:

  Sexual Perversion was in the home:

Police said that more than 100,000 "deviant images" were found among their belongings, including child pornography.  This means that they enjoyed seeing children and animals abused.  What is meant by "enjoyed"?  Perhaps the stronger term will help:

They were sexually aroused by these things.  They 'enjoyed' the sexual abuse of children and animals. This has a powerful desensitizing process upon the brain, though it may have impacted Dunn quite a bit differently than Adkins.

Had Adkins drugged Hailey?

This has been widely discussed as well, questioning if Hailey had been made compliant by chemical restraint.

Had Hailey been 'given' as a Christmas gift, to Adkins, by the mother, who said "everyone got everything they wanted for Christmas"?

Is the possibility of giving a child, sexually, to someone, as a gift, something completely unknown and unfamiliar to Billie Dunn?

  Substance Abuse

Drugs numb the soul. This house was ripe with substance abuse, enough to abuse and more to sell to others.  These were people so familiar with drugs that Dunn attempted to persuade Adkins that they could pass a polygraph under the influence.

She was wrong.

The desensitization process was well in play in this home, with the mother having told radio interviewers that she had been prostituted out as a child, by her own father.  This act of betrayal, at a young age, interferes with normal brain development.  The victim does not think as you or I think, but the brain is, in fact, very different.  Later, even years later, pornography would have a very different affect upon her as well.

To view this, we must understand how a child develops and what the trauma of incest does to the child's development.

Note boundaries.

Children will run around the home naked, and not think twice.  Suddenly, they reach a point in life where they want privacy and want to be covered up.  Children who are sexually abused do not have the same sense of "self", privacy, and boundary.  They do not know where their own body ends and another begins because of the sexual abuse.  Later, women testify to the fact that their body (limbs) often feels as if it was not a part of them, and that even while being abused, they "watched" themselves, as if "floating" above themselves.  This is called disassociation.

The child's brain is desperate to protect itself from sexual assault by disassociating.  Often, these women are above average in intelligence and seek out help, in their 30's, for this abuse.

Please note that disassociation can show up in language as passivity.

The child's  self worth is so very low, that self loathing often dictates day to day living, and suicidal ideation is constant.

Dunn told the radio reporters that she was subject to early childhood sexual abuse by her father.

It is like the perfect storm to create a sociopath.  The one missing element is:

Violence.

 Violence was in the home with not only the report of calling the police on Adkins just a few months prior, nor his threat to kill Hailey and her mother, but they imported violence in the form of blood lust videos; that is, the "enjoyment" of watching violence done to others.

A sociopathic mind operates differently than the rest of the population.  In this home, sexual perversion, violence, and substance abuse conspired together to bring Hailey's life to a screeching halt.

When a woman in her mid 30's seeks out help, it is usually for depression, or another issue, and it is later learned that she was a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

The brain knows the trauma, and the suffering goes on and on.  When the violence of sexual abuse is done against a child is coupled with sexual perversion, violence and substance abuse, it is the most ripened dangerous situation a child could be in.

The Colorado City Manager said that it was like A plus B equaling C...that simple.

What is it that Billie Dunn's brain attempted to tell us?

Did she come upon Shawn Adkins sexually abusing Hailey and instead of attempting to protect her daughter, she blamed her daughter, as her "rival" and attacked her, striking her in the head?

If so, this would leave physical evidence for investigators to want to keep the body for forensic tests.

Listen to the  words of the mother, when she was on the Nancy Grace Show.


Here is the exchange between Billie Dunn and Nancy Grace, who has at this time grown frustrated with the deceptive responses and does not believe Dunn any longer:
GRACE: Well, I don`t know what to believe, either, because I`m getting all these different stories about you having a New Year`s Eve party, and you`re high when you go take the polygraph. Let me ask you this. Let`s get back to the facts. When was the last time you absolutely are positive you saw Hailey?

Note that Nancy Grace frames the words "you having a New Year's Eve party" within her sentence recognizing that the gathering, the serving of alcohol, and the watching of the ball drop define a party, even if Dunn wishes to deny. She moves past this, but then asks the simple question about the last time Dunn saw Hailey. 

BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

This is an example of a truthful statement as she has no need for additional language nor qualifiers as she has in so many other statements.  It is unusual for the mother to answer something so plainly. This makes it important.  Please carefully note that this is a truthful sentence.  It's structure shows truth:

1.  Pronoun "I" making it strong.
2.  past tense verb, "saw"
3.  Time period given without qualification.

This is a truthful statement and it is the last time she saw her daughter...alive.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

Mistake.  She should ask "what time?" without giving the subject the answer. 

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

Two qualifiers for 10:00, "probably" and "around" making it a weak assertion.  The mother says that this was the last time she saw the victim.  Would you remember the last time you saw your missing child?  This is the "expected."

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

What follows are some of the most important words spoken by Billie Jean Dunn, regarding Hailey Dunn.  
  
BILLIE DUNN:   "I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV. 

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked like she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and..."
Do you notice something about this?

When was the last time you saw your daughter?  10PM that night. Now, she says she saw her the next morning on the way to work. 

If the last time she saw her daughter was 10PM that night, what she sees now is not her daughter.  
1.  "I did see her in her room, but..."  The word "but" can refute, negate, or minimize what preceded it.  What has caused her to make comparison by putting a pause in her sentence and insert, in less than a micro-second, the word "but"? This is allegedly Sunday night.

2.  We have since learned that pornography made by Billie Dunn, was stored on the children's X- box.

3.  The subject feels it is important enough to add in "TV"

4.  The need to explain why:

we give "so, since, to, therefore, because" the color coding blue as the highest level of sensitivity that can be found in a statement of someone reported what happened.  It is here that the person has a need to tell us "why" something was done.  This is often the solving of a case.  A single "blue" is a strong sensitivity indicator but two or more "blues" is called a "cluster of blues" in which the information contained with the cluster is the most critical information of a case.  Just as we highlight "left" in blue, we highlight "because" in any form that seeks to explain why something was done.

If a question is "what did you do?" and it is answered with an explanation "why", it is critical.  The subject is anticipating being asked "why" even before being asked.

Here we have three blues in one short statement and come to the most important part of everything she had told us.

We are at the most critical point of what happened to Hailey, as described by her mother.

Note that she doesn't tell us that Hailey was laying in bed, but rather says it looked like she was laying in bed.   This is how she appeared to her mother.

Most might say "she was laying in bed" but she said it only "looked like she was laying in bed"; as if she is viewing a corpse, who looks peaceful, like as if she is sleeping.  She could not bring herself to say she was laying in bed because Hailey was deceased and her corpse looked "like" rather than "was laying" in bed.

This one small word, "like", means to compare, is critical and it is why attorneys do not let guilty clients speak out on television.

She was viewing a corpse.

What do most people NOT do to a corpse?  (this is the same when you see people come upon a dead dog or dead cat on the side of the road. What do most people NOT do when they come upon a corpse?)

She is consistent here:
Next the mother states what she didn't do, touch her.

That which is reported in the negative is always important for the subject to use additional words to make a statement:  the mother didn't touch what looked like, but was not, someone sleeping.

The mother didn't touch what looked like it was sleeping in the bed.  She only "looked" like, and she was not actually asleep.

Ask yourself in what circumstance you would touch something to make sure what it was.

 Would you touch your child to make sure it was him or her in bed?

We sometimes touch pets we think have died, only to find them sleeping.  Have you ever said that you didn't touch your sleeping child?  It sounds awkward because it is awkward.

At this point in the account, the victim is dead and the mother cannot bring herself to enter the room and touch her.

She cannot do it.

Most people do not like touching a dead body.  Dead bodies can look "like" they are sleeping but people do not like to touch them.  Even a dead dog in the street:  people often poke it with a stick, rather than directly touch it.  It is a common description from children who attend wakes: "she just looked like she was sleeping."

The mother is speaking from memory.   The mother is taking you, the listener, in with her, back to the next morning that, whatever happened the night before, the victim did not wake up and now is there, as if she was "like" laying in bed but she was not asleep.  The words are slipping out even as she attempts to control them, like marbles in a cabinet (Gough), the words are difficult to control while answering a question.

For her, the body looked "like" it was asleep. 
Now note that the victim "peeked in" to make sure she was in bed to ease her mind.  I believe this is true.  She needed to tell us why she did something.  This is critical for all statement analysis.

 Why did the mother need to ease her mind?

There was no report of a missing child.
There was no sleep over.
There was no friends over.
 There was nothing that we know of, according to her story, that would cause her a need for comfort.

Something had happened  that the mother was in need of comfort and something to ease her mind.  

The Marking of Time.

We mark time by what happens, not by what does not happen.

  There is an infinite number of things that did not happen.  When the mother marked time by what she did not feel, what did not happen, it sounds awkward and without sense because it is the artificial placement of emotions.

"Where were you when President Reagan was shot?"
"Where were you when the terrorists attacked on 9/11?"

These questions 'mark time' based upon things that happened; not upon things that didn't happen.

"I didn't get worried when I didn't hear from her" the mother said indicating an artificial placement of the absence of emotions.

From near 10PM Sunday night until Monday morning is the time period in which the victim was killed in a manner that involved both mother and boyfriend.

Head bashed in?

Was there a critical head injury inflicted upon Hailey in the home where she was murdered?

At this point, only prosecutors know, and thus far, they have not brought charges upon Dunn and Adkins, who both remain free.


49 comments:

Hobnob said...

An excellent post as usual Peter, thank you.

I am glad you included ther bit about the word BUT as i always forget the 3 options, i can uually remember two, not necessarily the same two each time :)

Anonymous said...

I had never caught that she told Nancy she saw her last at 10, but then sais she saw what she thought was Hailey the next morning.

Anonymous said...

What about Billie saying that Shawn took her to work Monday?? Could she have been describing what she saw before they went and hid the body, and tried to build alibis??

Anonymous said...

if she gave Hailey to Shawn as a christmas gift, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?
if they 'enjoyed' the sexual abuse of children and animals, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?

Anonymous said...

We have since learned that pornography made by Billie Dunn, was stored on the children's X- box.

REALLY???? proof please.

think real not conspiracies said...

Anon at 9:32...
Why do you think HD was a gift to SA?

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 9:54
i do not think that.

think real not conspiracies said... said...

Nevermind anon at 9:32. I just saw that listed in the article.

I don't believe that opinion on the gift idea.

Anonymous said...


like any case, we need to know what transpired before the statements were made. do we know everything that Billie knew of as far as LE, the public, searchers had discussed or taunted her with that may have influenced Billie to not answer Nancy's questions directly but lean more towards answering to Nancy's viewers that had previously made accusations?

1. "she went missing while I was at work" to Nancy Grace.
had been accused of culpability by locals.
2. "She wasn't allowed to go out by herself at night..."
prior public ridicule for allowing a child out at night alone.
3. I saw her Sunday night.
asked when did you absolutely know she was alive.
because she was unsure that item 6 was proof positive.
4. Probably around 10:00.
if she based that timeline on when her son left...
well that time was also never nailed down.
5. "I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.
?????
6. Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked like she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and..."
had been questioned how certain, absolute proof of,
she was that it was in fact Hailey.
with out touching her, it was possible
that she was not there as far as LE could go on.


my explanations can be proven by reading news articles and watching news videos prior to Nancy's shows questions to establish a timeline of how the events played out as i have described.

Anonymous said...

if she gave Hailey to Shawn as a christmas gift, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?
if they 'enjoyed' the sexual abuse of children and animals, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?

it could not have been both, and because she would not have been upset at either, shows that neither scenario is plausible.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

like any case, we need to know what transpired before the statements were made. do we know everything that Billie knew of as far as LE, the public, searchers had discussed or taunted her with that may have influenced Billie to not answer Nancy's questions directly but lean more towards answering to Nancy's viewers that had previously made accusations?

Wow. The searchers taunted Billie?

Logical said...

everyone got everything they wanted for Christmas"

So does this mean the kids were happy until they had to take turns playing the new Xbox gift on the new TV gift? KWIM?

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10:04
her son was forced to move out of the home for his safety due to the searchers actions.

Talk the talk ... Walk the walk said...

The first and last sentence of this post: "Did Hailey die as a result of a blow to the head?" and, "Head bashed in?" is important. Are you revealing the cause of death?

Logical at 10:14. You may be pointing in the right direction.





stefani birman said...

I have NO clue what happened to Hailey Dunn, but I do KNOW that the perps need held accountable for their actions. This length of time is ridiculous !

Anonymous said...

There was some kind of fight between Hailey-Billie-Shawn, and Hailey was hurt and died. Billie and Shawn panicked and instead of calling 911, most likely drugs were involved, they decided to make it look like a kidnapping and hide the body. Please arrest them already.

patrice said...

All of LE involved in the investigation of Hailey missing and now murdered should be fired. What are they so scared about?

Billie would be jealous of any female Shawn would set his eyes on and that would include her daughter.
Billie and Shawn know what happened to Hailey because they both are involved in her murder. I am not sure David doesn't know something....I don't know how he could function as a human if he knew anything about the murder of his sister.

IƱes said...

When I hear that "everybody got everything they wanted for Christmas", it makes me think that they got a good supply of drugs. That would be what those 2 druggies would want, and it could have set the stage for what happened next.

Trlgger said...

Chemically restraining a child is an accepted way of acquiring time to do adult activities with or without the child's involvement in a substance abuser's mindset.

Why would Hailey have been hit in the head, when she could have easily be drugged and suffocated?

Wouldn't it be more likely that she was deprived of oxygen while in a drugged state? Or overdosed?

Hailely's death must have been a relief for BJ. Maybe that is why she looked in Hilely's bedroom to ease her mind.

Loosing Shawn would have caused more separation anxiety for BJ than loosing Hailey.

ima.grandma said...

Reading several comments regarding the possible "Christmas gift" and/or the "Billie catching Shawn abusing Hailey" scenarios and the posters inquiring how could it be both made me think of how Billie would think.

There is a possibility Billie gave Hailey as a Christmas gift but only as a one-time gift. Billie could have came home unexpectedly and caught Shawn going for seconds.

To also include Peter's possible scenario that she was hit on the head by Billie, it also could be that Shawn jumped off of her and she intentionally went for Hailey OR Shawn could have been on top of Hailey, Billie comes in, she tries to hit Shawn. He quickly jumps off of Hailey and she accidentally hits Hailey. 

Shelley said...


I think that Hailey was killed shortly after her brother left the home that night.
I feel like they may have been on drugs, and killed Hailey during the act of some abuse. Like maybe they were too rough and she was killed. While not a deliberate murder per say, but still she died in the act of a crime and there was no way out but to lie or go to jail.
I also think the death likely occurred on the couch. Not only did Billie herself state that Hailey often slept on that couch, but the couch was tossed out promptly after Hailey “disappeared”. Billies excuse (I can not find the exact quote) was something to the effect that the one given to them was newer or nicer…
WHATEVER….
If your child is missing, how would you even care? I would be concerned with one thing and one thing only, finding my child. I would be searching until I could not walk. I am sure my house would fall apart, I would fall apart.
I would not have a moment to spare to get a new couch.
I think that couch, had they brought dogs right away, would have been a hit for the cadaver dogs.

Anonymous said...

B/S! Just because Billie said she looked into Haileys' room that morning and saw what she 'thought' was Hailey lying in bed but did not go in and touch her, does not mean she actually did do this.

Because Billie said she wanted to "ease" her mind (why?) before leaving for work with the driver who was giving her a ride that morning, making it sound like all was a normal work day for her; could be nothing more than another one of Billies 'I'm smarter than you are' setting the stage tactics but not exactly stating that Hailey WAS there, when she could already well have known that Hailey WASN'T there.

Don't you all realize by now that this is a known liar? Yet you want to believe that she did this one thing that morning, so now you believe that Billie peeped in and the body outline form of Hailey was lying on her bed, just that Billie didn't go in and touch her like she says she didn't?

While I believe that Peters' theory of Hailey being killed the night before sometime after 10PM does have some merit, this does not mean that Hailey had not already been dragged out of that house during the overnight hours and likely was; AND by both Billie & Shawn as well as any number of 'friends or relatives' who could have been participating in the Hailey young virgin/sex/drug party.

What better time to get a dead body out of your house than during the dark night hours? Isn't it also a fact that Shawn drove early to his work place, left his motor running, rushed in and right back out, taking off to do his dirty hide the body/evidence work for the rest of the day? Are you all forgetting that Haileys' decomp odor would have been on her bed even weeks later had she been left lying there dead for up to 90 mins even if her sheets (and theirs!) had been laundered?

Sure, he could have gone back home to retrieve Haileys' dead body, but he could also have had her body in his trunk at that time, OR 'they' had already either disposed of her during the night, or he could have gone back to retrieve other items of evidence that needed disposing of, while ON HIS WAY to dispose of Hailey, or could have driven other evidence to a different spot for disposal.

It was obvious that neither one of these doped up disgusting fools had slept all night so they certainly were up to something all night long; and THAT was not good.

To say that Haileys head was bludgeoned is also second guessing (not that it didn't very likely happen), unless someone has some undercover info that her skull was discovered in this manner.

We are all only second guessing as to actually HOW Hailey was murdered, although we can safely assume she WAS brutally assaulted and murdered during a drug & sexually charged insane brutal attack on the poor girl, simply based on all Billie & Shawn have said, AND their deviate lifestyle, lies and deceit; we can second-guess when Shawn & Billie disposed of Hailey and in what manner, but certainly not based on anything Billie "said".

I run hot and cold as to whether this crime will ever be solved; but I also recognize that sometimes it takes years to bring those to justice who commit these deadly crimes against their innocent victims. I still have (slim) hope that both Billie & Shawn will be prosecuted and will pay for what they did to sweet beautiful Hailey even if they are getting away with it for now. THEN we will know the truth. Hopefully. Thank you.

Peter Hyatt said...

Don't forget the principle of "total faith in the subject"...

we LISTEN to what she tells us. People OFTEN tell us truth, sentence by sentence, even while withholding critical information in order to deceive.

Peter

TWO BOXES said...

pointhunter said...
The scull was damaged from the animals who scattered them IMO.

pointhunter said...
The bones that were found came from all parts of the body.
Why would you put a leg, the skull the ribcage all in one area and then put the others in a different area.

Shelley said...

I think the cops failed by not bringing in immediate cadavour dogs.

I think Hailey died on that couch that was tossed out.

Anonymous said...


Humans are born with about 300 to 350 bones. Many of these bones fuse together between birth and maturity to produce an average adult total of 206 bones.

143 pieces of evidence was collected.
there was more than just bones found.
perhaps only half of Hailey has been located.
where is the second box?

Local anon in the Hailey Dunn case said...

Two local newspapers reported that the spokewoman for the FBI said the investigation is ongoing, they are looking at all leads, they are asking for leads and have nothing new to report. Asking for leads! More like waiting for a confession IMO. Hopefully not releasing Hailey's remains is a sign that they are still doing forensics or that her remains are evidence in what happened. And I agree with Shelly, not bringing in the cdaver dos early was a mistake. And Hailey proably died on that couch. Unfortunately local LE treated it as runaway case at first.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anon @ 10:04
her son was forced to move out of the home for his safety due to the searchers actions.
January 9, 2014 at 10:38 PM

You're an idiot! He had to leave the residence due to Adkin's and Billie's sick lifestyle and habits. Get your story straight. OH, let me guess--- you live 1000 miles away.

sha said...

The last time I saw you...

That can get a little strange when speaking about a person that is no longer with us in the living world.

There is the last time I saw you when you also saw me and we spoke or hugged. There is the last time I saw you when you didn't see me because I watched you walking or driving away or saw you somewhere on the street or in a store. Then there is the last time I saw you, or rather, the last time I saw your body.....which can be at the funeral but could be the last time I saw your body before it was prepared for the funeral. The last time I saw you, your body, at your funeral.

And later, if you are lucky, there will be the last time I saw you in a vision, or the last time I saw you in my dreams.

It's not a simple last time when speaking of those departed.

sha said...

The last time I saw you...

That can get a little strange when speaking about a person that is no longer with us in the living world.

There is the last time I saw you when you also saw me and we spoke or hugged. There is the last time I saw you when you didn't see me because I watched you walking or driving away or saw you somewhere on the street or in a store. Then there is the last time I saw you, or rather, the last time I saw your body.....which can be at the funeral but could be the last time I saw your body before it was prepared for the funeral. The last time I saw you, your body, at your funeral.

And later, if you are lucky, there will be the last time I saw you in a vision, or the last time I saw you in my dreams.

It's not a simple last time when speaking of those departed.

Jen Ow said...

Hi Sha-

When Billie Dunn said this Hailey was supposed to be 'missing', and not known to be departed. Actually it was early on in her disappearance, so Billie shouldn't have known/believed Hailey was dead (if she were actually an innocent mother of a missing child)...but her words revealed her guilty knowledge.

Anonymous said...

Billie why didn't you call 911me or drive her to the emergency room?? An accidental death charge is better than a murder charge.

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
Billie why didn't you call 911me or drive her to the emergency room?? An accidental death charge is better than a murder charge.
January 11, 2014 at 8:53 AM


This is actually a good question worthy of discussion.

I have a strong opinion on this but would like to hear from others...

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

just a hint here...

Why didn't Billie Jean Dunn call police over 'accidental death"?

a. blow to head would be hard to explain
b. drug charges
c. Shawn is "MHMR" according to Billie. How does she trust him to keep his story straight?
d. other

I think the answer is found in her own words.

Peter

Randie said...

I "saw" my Dad at his viewing and at his funeral. Of coarse I saw him with my eyes. He was in a casket.

When someone asks me "When was the last time you saw your Dad?" I say: "Walking thru the livingroom with a piece of paper in his hand."

Billie said when the last time she saw her daughter..." I saw her Sunday night."

Logical said...

Peter, you have transposed a statement made by Billie Dunn. (error in this article). See below

"everyone got everything they wanted for Christmas"?

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ACTUAL STATEMENT BY DUNN:
Billie Dunn Press Conference January 31, 2011
"Everyone pretty much got exactly what they asked for"

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yd9UYXvMCY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8Yd9UYXvMCY

BILLIE DUNN: "These things are not true but I now feel that I have to defend myself from ridiculous accusations slander or defamation of character. That said, I want to start out by saying that there was no blowout on Christmas. There were no arguments or disagreements everyone was getting along fine. Everyone pretty much got exactly what they asked for."


*There were no arguments or disagreements everyone was getting along fine.
----Everyone pretty much got exactly what they asked for." (Extra leaked information?)

Notice how Billie Dunn addresses the blowout at the beginning of her press conference?

Logical said...

Since 2011, I have always thought the children were arguing over taking turns playing Christmas gifts and an accident occurred.

My children did the same thing in the past and I would tell them to be patient in taking turns and say something similiar to them. "You received the gift you asked for....now be patient."

Logical said...

Peter Hyatt said...
just a hint here...
Why didn't Billie Jean Dunn call police over 'accidental death"?


IMO,
Because they don't have a good history with LE. (Decades)

Anonymous said...

http://equinox-ecliptic.blogspot.com/2011/02/billie-dunn-press-conference-january-31.html

Actually, Billie Dunn begins her presser with her memory on the importance of complete details (lol) from "the day before the day Hailey disappeared."

BILLIE DUNN: "I'm going to apologize because my throat is scratchy. I've got a sore throat. Is everybody ready

I'm going to read this because I don't want to forget anything xx I wanna give a complete very detailed xx statement of everything that went on the day before the day Hailey disappeared and the day after just everything I could remember xx I want to thank everyone for coming this afternoon and giving me an opportunity to make a statement. "

Just waitin' said...

When Billie was arrested for lying to police about Shawn hiding inside her home...why wasn't he arrested for hiding from police?

Anonymous said...

i have to agree with Logical @ 12:02. i cannot find Peter's quoted comment anywhere other than his own blogs or other people taking the quote from his blog.

"They are cut or pasted, edited for time and space, and often I'm not quoted in correct context. My words are sometimes picked apart and twisted around in such a way that I don't even recognize them."


"We were able to get them what they wanted for Christmas"

"Everyone pretty much got exactly what they asked for"

anon turtle said...

Exactly Peter. In Billie's latest comments she talks about it not being an accident because they had not came forward or apologized, or something like that. I have always thought that it might not have been intentional BUT because of drugs and everything else they could not call 911. I would still like to hear Billie's answer on why she didn't get Hailey help. Did she really kill her on purpose? Did she let Shawn hurt Hailey out of anger?? How could you just let her die and throw her away, she must have been on some strong drugs.

Turtle-Anon said...

So Billie Dunn who took the final blow to Hailey?? I think it was you, you had already allegedly choked her before, did you take it too far that last time, I believe so.

I also think Shawn went in there and told them about the sleepover story, but then got scared during the questions and leaked info that he wasn't supposed to. Like telling them to look at Billie and Shawn.

Turtle-Anon said...

Billie what were those next few minutes like after you hit/choked Hailey?

Did you try to save her because you were a nurse before?? You failed though huh?

Who made the decision to set up a kidnapping story?? I bet it was you. I bet Shawn wanted to call 911 but since you say he is MHMR you made the decision to hide her body.

Turtle-Anon said...

Billie you wanted Hailey to be found rather quickly right? Her being out there that long was not in the plan was it?

"I just want someone to find my baby" wasn't a mother crying out to help find a lost child, it was a mother feeling guilty about her daughter lying in a dirt field.

Shawn telling you, you would get her back was him really just telling you someone would find her soon, but when they didn't you called him a liar and became frustrated.

Anonymous said...

i thought all the crime stories she printed at work proves that killing Hailey was premeditated?

Nic said...

Anonymouses said...
if she gave Hailey to Shawn as a christmas gift, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?
if they 'enjoyed' the sexual abuse of children and animals, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?

it could not have been both, and because she would not have been upset at either, shows that neither scenario is plausible.


It could be that SA killed Hailey enacting what he saw in the porn he watch, i.e., a bad sexual asphyxiation technique. Maybe he went too far and didn't stop in time and/or broke her neck crushed her wind pipe. That would royally tick BJD off. "Breaking" Hailey and then BJD having to clean-up "his mess" . Also why they couldn't call 911. How do you explain that happening to a minor?

Nic said...

Anonymouses said...
if she gave Hailey to Shawn as a christmas gift, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?
if they 'enjoyed' the sexual abuse of children and animals, why would she be upset about Shawn sexually abusing Hailey?

it could not have been both, and because she would not have been upset at either, shows that neither scenario is plausible.


It could be that SA killed Hailey enacting what he saw in the porn he watch, i.e., a bad sexual asphyxiation technique. Maybe he went too far and didn't stop in time and/or broke her neck crushed her wind pipe. That would royally tick BJD off. "Breaking" Hailey and then BJD having to clean-up "his mess" . Also why they couldn't call 911. How do you explain that happening to a minor?

Buddy Webb said...

HAILEY DUNN MURDER CONFESSION - This video shows convincing evidence to what happened to Hailey Dunn, the 13 year old Colorado City, TX cheerleader that had went missing in 2010. She was the most famous missing child of this century.

NewsWest9 reported in 2012 that a Sonja Callahan had testified that she was at a home in Odessa, TX where a young woman that she believed to be Hailey had been held against her will and then died of a forced overdose.

In March of 2013, I wrote the Department of Justice and suggested they come look in the now not so secret underground facility for clues to her disappearance and then two days later her remains are conveniently found.

Earlier this year, a college educated drug rehab counselor sees a video of mine about Hailey and tells me that a guy had confessed to her about murdering and burying her. She said that Hailey had overdosed in an Odessa home and was then buried over by Odessa, TX with lots of graphic details.

Two different people who don't know each other are telling almost identical stories. Did this person kill Hailey Dunn? Have they taken other children? Please share this story so legitimate law enforcement can look into this. Destroying the credibility and lives of whistle-blowers has to stop! It's wrong on so many levels.

UPDATE: I was informed that the mother was a stripper over in Abilene and not in Odessa but I believe that I was told that she worked over here.

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