Wednesday, October 24, 2012

17 Year Old Killed Jessica


The mother of a Colorado teenager admitted Wednesday she made the phone call that led to her 17-year-old son turning himself in to authorities in the abduction and killing of a 10-year-old girl who vanished earlier this month.

"I made the phone call, and he turned himself in. That's all I have to say," Mindy Sigg, Austin Reed Sigg's mother, told the Associated Press, before she broke down in tears and hung up the phone. This is the second report of a mother alerting authorities about her son suspected of murder.
Sigg was arrested after police reportedly received the phone call from his mother on Tuesday night that led them to his home near Ketner Lake, about 1.5 miles away from where Ridgeway, 10, disappeared.
Sigg, who had aspirations to become a mortician, confessed to his mother prior to his arrest, KDVR.com reported.
Ridgeway disappeared Oct. 5 while walking to school in Westminister, Colo. Her body was found five days later in a field at a park.
"We worked on this case nonstop, around the clock, since Oct. 5, the day of her abduction," Police Chief Lee Birk said at news conference. "I believe we've made a significant step towards justice for Jessica."
The break in the case came a day after police said her abduction was linked to the May 28 attempted kidnapping of a 22-year-old runner at another park, the Ketner Lake Open Space.
In that case, a woman fought off a stranger who grabbed her from behind and put a rag over her mouth that smelled of chemicals. Westminster investigator Trevor Materasso said Tuesday police haven't been able to determine if the substance on the rag was meant to subdue the woman.
Authorities didn't say why they think the two cases are linked, but they noted Sigg will be charged in both crimes. His first court appearance is set for 8 a.m. Thursday.
Authorities said they notified the Ridgeway family of the arrest Wednesday morning.
"We hope and pray that this arrest brings them some measure of closure in dealing with this enormous loss that they've suffered," Birk said.
Jessica was walking down a quiet street in her modest neighborhood when she was last seen alive. Her school backpack was found three days later in Superior, another Denver suburb about seven miles northwest of her home.
After her disappearance, more than 1,000 officers and 10 agencies, including the FBI, investigated the case, following up on more than 4,000 leads.
While authorities searched for her killer, high school students volunteered to walk younger students to class to keep them safe and more parents were waiting at bus stops with their children and dropping them off at school.
The number of suspected abduction attempts reported to police also increased, possibly because more children and parents were on alert for suspicious behavior.

52 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank God her killer has been found.
BTW, I am one of the people critical of Jessica's mother on this site. If she hadn't been so lazy, stupid or negligent (can't decide which one) it's likely Jessica would be alive today. RIP, little girl.

Anonymous said...

It is nice to see that mothers like her Ms. Sigg and the mother of the two teenagers who killed the young girl in New Jersey take the actions they did and turn in their sons.

Anonymous said...

As it turns out Anon @ 5:04, Jessica's mother wasn't the only adult living in that house. In addition to her, there was Jessica's grandmother and her aunt. Not a single one of them could take Jessica to school and pick her up? Not a one cared? Not even as a fill in ride if the mother couldn't take her?

I understand the grandmother stayed with Jessica while her mother worked a night shift, couldn't she have dropped Jessica off at school if her mother couldn't or wouldn't? Why not? Or the aunt. What's HER story?

Nonetheless, it WAS the mother's responsibility and she WAS home prior to Jessica leaving for school. TOO simple for that woman to give the child a ride to school before going to bed! And just as simple to make sure she was up in time to pick her up after school. But no, the lazy heiffer could only think of HERSELF and making sure she was not disturbed. She wasn't even gonna let an F'n phone disturbe HER sleep.

THEN we learn that Jessica could have had a ride for $90 bucks a year!!? $90 bucks a YEAR? That would be cheaper than buying the extra gas to transport her, but NO, the heiffer was too cheap for that! Let Jessica walk.

Granted, $267 a month isn't much in child support but the cow couldn't even rake together $90 BUCKS spread out over the whole school year? I'll guarantee you she blew that much extra on junk foods in a months' time, or less. How LITTLE she cared for that precious little girl.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the killer was highly intelligent - a college student at 17. If he were living at home with his mother/parents, I have to wonder if he committed the crime at his home or elsewhere. He would have needed a lot of privacy and time to clean up.
How heartbreaking for a mother who probably thought she had a gifted son and turns out he was not stable and downright evil.

Picked a Name said...

The vitriol against a woman you don't know here is sickening. She's overweight so you call her a cow and a heifer (correct spelling here). Disgusting.
It is perfectly normal and acceptable in many communities for kids to walk to school. Save your hatred for parents who actively abuse their kids - god knows there are plenty out there. I don't see anything wrong with the mother here. I do see a lot of judgement and hatred (and bias) in these comments. And the blame for this murder lies squarely on the murderer.

Anonymous said...

I agree with "Picked a Name".
What about the 22 year old who escaped from this sicko? Who would you blame if she had been killed? Sometimes bad things happen, and we can only learn from them.

Anonymous said...

The blame does belong to the murderer, but the mom did sleep obliviously for 8 hours while her daughter was missing. Not to have been available in an emergency to me is even worse than allowing her to walk to school. She should have provided a back-up number and that way 8 hours would not have been lost and the police could have started looking immediately.I could never sleep knowing that my daughter might need me.

RIP jessica, and good for the mom who turned her son in.

Anonymous said...

The 22 year-old was not a child and her mom was not responsible for her.

Big difference.

Hobnob said...

off topic

A friend of the prime suspect in the case of Kyron Horman who has been missing for two years, refused to answer 142 questions related to his disappearance, pleading the Fifth Amendment, it was revealed today.
Kyron Horman went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, and his stepmom Terri Horman was named in a civil suit as the prime suspect because she was the last person to see him.
Now, Kyron's biological mother Desiree Young - who divorced father Kaine before their son vanished - has asked a judge to force Terri's friend to answer all of the questions put to her during a deposition taken earlier this month.
DeDe Spicher was uncooperative during questioning - even refusing to identify a picture of her friend, whether she knew her husband and if she had ever met Kyron - in the $10million civil suit filed by Young.


Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.
Court documents say she was at work that day but left abruptly at 11.30am and returned 90 minutes later. She declined to say what she did during that time.

'Are you aware that Kyron Horman has disappeared?' asked Young's lawyer, Elden Rosenthal.

'I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right,' Spicher replied, according to a transcript filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court obtained by The Oregonian.


His mother Desiree has now filed a motion asking the court to compel Spicher to answer the questions.
Lawyer Elden Rosenthal noted that the Fifth Amendment provides that 'no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.'

'Plaintiff believes that Ms Spicher has inappropriately sought the protection of the privilege against self-incrimination," he wrote. 'The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence.

'A witness may not invoke the Fifth Amendment in order to hide knowledge of a friend's criminal conduct.'
After Kyron disappeared, authorities searched the condo Spicher was working at on June


In 2010, investigators also put out a flier with Spicher's photos on it, asking if anyone noticed her or Terri Horman between 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. on June 4, 2010.
The suit Ms Young filed asks the judge to order Horman to return Kyron or, if he is dead, reveal where his remains are located.
In his ruling, Judge Kantor wrote: ‘Witnesses and evidence may disappear. Memories may fade. The opportunity to find Kyron alive or dead, lessens.’
Ms Young accused Horman of knowing what happened to Kyron. She told the East Idaho News in June: ‘I believe that Terri Horman knows where Kyron is. I believe that Terri Horman is responsible for where my son is.’
According to NWCN.com, Horman was the last to see Kyron alive. Ms Young’s civil suit accuses her of kidnapping him from Skyline Elementary.
Following Judge Kantor’s decision, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office released a statement that stated the civil case was separate from the continuing criminal investigation against Horman.


Hobnob said...

The statement read: 'While there may be rulings regarding the court's opinions as to how the case may proceed, these rulings/legal opinions are part of the civil court case. The civil case is a process that is independent of the active, on-going criminal investigation being conducted by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office.
Investigators have long focused on Horman, although until this point, had not named her as a suspect or filed criminal charges.
When the lawsuit was filed on June 1, Young's attorney, Elden Rosenthal, said it would be on a 'parallel track' with the criminal investigation.

He would not say what kind of reaction the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office gave when he informed them of Young's decision to sue.
Horman believes the suit is working to advance the aims of local law enforcement. She points out that the judge hearing her divorce from Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, delayed that case while the criminal investigation plays out.
'Plainly and simply, Young's lawsuit is a quest for information to move the criminal investigation forward and to taint any jury pool,' according to the filing.
Civil allegations require a lower standard of proof — a preponderance of evidence — than criminal charges, which must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Compelling her to testify, Bunch wrote, could force Terri Horman to invoke her constitutional right against self-incrimination, pointing out the weak spots in her case


'The burden on Horman of being required to participate in this lawsuit before the district attorney and police have completed their investigation squarely jeopardizes her constitutional rights,' Bunch wrote.


According to local news reports at the time of his disappearance, Horman took her stepson to a science fair at the school that Friday morning.
Initial sheriff’s reports said that Horman saw Kyron walking off to his classroom, and judging that he was on his way, left.
The teacher of Kyron’s class didn’t see him at the 10am start, and marked him absent.
His parents were alarmed when Kyron didn’t get off the school bus that afternoon, and called the school. Skyline, in turn, called 911 to report the boy missing.
According to East Idaho News, the police department has spent a collective 28,000 hours searching for him.

Horman’s former husband Kyron Horman first filed a restraining order against her and later divorced her. They have a young toddler together.
Ms Young told Good Morning America in a 2010 interview that her son’s disappearance was ‘a parent’s worst nightmare.’
She said: ‘We’ve racked our brains trying to think of reasons why. We cannot come up with anything. It’s like a portal opened up in the school and Kyron just vanished into it.
‘It’s a mystery

dadgum said...

I'm thinking about what it took for his mom to hear his confession, and how many others she saved. God bless her, and other mothers in her shoes.

Leave Jessica's mom alone..if she did anything wrong, she will deal with it forever. Judge the murderer, not his victims.

dadgum said...

OT..so glad to see the 'robot verifier' gone. The squinting was giving me wrinkles.. Thanks Peter!

Hobnob said...

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf

Transcript of spichers deposition in court

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

She's overweight so you call her a cow.October 24, 2012 5:49 PM
She’s morbidly obese, incapacitating herself, causing the parentification of Jessica. The other caretakers/enablers share in this food addiction.

Hobnob said...

dadgum said...
OT..so glad to see the 'robot verifier' gone. The squinting was giving me wrinkles.. Thanks Peter!


I spy with my beady eye, something beginning with W G.


Yep, you got it, a wrinkly 'gum

~Hobbles to naughty corner~

dadgum said...

?thanks Hobs..one day they'll find justice for Kyron..can't people just love their kids? Makes me ill.

Anonymous said...

@Anon 5:49pm- I feel for this mom. Maybe 90 bucks is nothing to some people, but if I had to pay the school 90 dollars to get my daughter a ride, I couldn't have at the time.

My daughter used to walk to school because the school said anyone within so many miles did not qualify for a bus. When she was in 6th grade plus she had to ride a public city bus (which was 1/4 the price the school wanted). I was always sad and worried for/about her, but she liked it. I would worry, but I didn't have a vehicle and we were too far to walk, but too close for a school bus.

The Government requires kids to go to school or be home-schooled, maybe they should provide the ride for single parents who are living day to day or maybe the school system should be blamed for putting kids in harms way. This being said, I have no idea if this family is wealthy or poor. I do not care. The school is as liable as the mother.

I do not even know if the mom had a vehicle to give her daughter a ride. And at this point, it does not matter. The mom is probably beating herself up enough as it is.

dadgum said...

Wonder what Siggs' lawyer will come up with. Insanity, abuse, or too smart for his own good? Bullied by little girls? At 17, is he an adult in CO, or a minor?

I was in New Mexico when the Cody case began, and his family was found murdered. Hearts bled for him because of is treatment, though all his sister ever did was witness his murdering both parents. Hiding the bodies..going to a party. I feel he will offend again, when someone crosses him the wrong way.

Will the attorney say his brain wasn't done yet? It was done enough for him to try this before, and continue with a younger victim who couldn't fight back.

Anonymous said...

OK, Anon 6:53, I see where your anger comes from: you have extreme judgment and hatred for overweight people. I can't help you with that problem, I can only pity you for being unable or unwilling to see past your tiny little bias.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
According to CBS4 in Denver, Sigg told police he strangled Ridgeway after he got her into his vehicle on Oct. 5 — although Westminster police have not released this information.
Sigg reportedly waived his rights and told investigators that human remains could be found inside a crawl space under the home where he was arrested.http://fox4kc.com/2012/10/24/report-jessica-ridgeway-murder-suspect-confessed-to-keeping-remains-in-crawl-space/

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

you have extreme judgment and hatred for overweight people.
October 24, 2012 7:15 PM

You think? I see addiction amidst a myriad of SA red flags; it would be biased to overlook. I do conclude that I'm not good at SA.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 7:15 and others; I did not call this mother a cow because of her weight per se'. How could I when I weigh 175#s myself, which is 50#s overweight for me. And YES, I DO feel like a big ole fat cow and look like one too, and if she doesn't she ought too unless her problem is caused by some glandular condition. Whatever. She neglected that little girl whether you all want to hear it or not.

Cow or not, I'll guarantee you none of my kids walked alone to school, OR back home alone. One of us was always with them, even when the bus stopped right on our corner outside our house. In other cases we parked at the school bus stop and waited for the bus or one of us took them to school and picked them up.

I'd have been thrilled had someone offered any one of my kids a ride for the entire year for only $90 bucks. One can't ensure their child's safety to and from school for a mere $90 bucks a year? Then somethings wrong with you. For beginners, you could get a job, or a second job or do some internet sales while you're sitting on your fat butt. You find an excuse for your negligence? Why WOULDN'T your kid come ahead of yourself?

Did I say fat? Sure did.

Anonymous said...

$90 per school year for transportation both to and from school = $10 per month for nine months divided by an average of twenty school days per month = .50 cents per day = .25 cents per trip. $.25 CENTS to have someone give your child a car pool ride?

Words escape me that some wouldn't pay, or claim they couldn't pay such a pittance for their child's safety. You disgust me.

Lemon said...

Anon said:
"I did not call this mother a cow because of her weight per se'."

This is not a reliable denial. :)

Anonymous said...

To blame the mother is ludicrous, imo, and because she is obese is the reason you make such ridiculous statements. At the age of ten, you'd think they'd be able to walk a few feet and be a kid. What was it, like 500 feet?

I am curious as to how much crime solving he was actually in to.

dadgum said...

I read he'd recently won a 'CSI' award..? looking it up..

dadgum said...

According to police documents, Sigg is a student at Arapahoe Community College. On March 23, he won second place in the Crime Scene Investigation division of the Health Occupation Students of America State Leadership Conference competition.

Read more: Police: Suspect in Jessica Ridgeway murder is 17-year-old boy - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21844711/arrest-made-jessica-ridgeway-case#ixzz2AGhBnK94
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Anonymous said...

@anon 8:11 pm- you said-

"$90 per school year for transportation both to and from school = $10 per month for nine months divided by an average of twenty school days per month = .50 cents per day = .25 cents per trip. $.25 CENTS to have someone give your child a car pool ride?

Words escape me that some wouldn't pay, or claim they couldn't pay such a pittance for their child's safety. You disgust me."

October 24, 2012 8:11 PM----

I am not sure where you grew up or how, but some kids that 90 bucks a month would be the money they have to spend to buy a lunch at school. And sometimes a mother or father have to decide...hot lunch and walk to school or no lunch or cold lunch and buy a bus stub.... again, why is the mom blamed and not the school?? Why does the school and gov't require kids to be their but they do not provide??

Anonymous said...

That is NOT $90 bucks a month. It is $90 backs for the entire YEAR!!! It breaks down to only $10.00 per month. Less than the cost of a couple of your big macs with fries and shakes, which SHOULDN'T be too much of a sacrifice to ensure your child's safety and possibly their life.

Can't you read? Look again, that's $90 BUCKS FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR! Got it now?

The school rules are the school rules. They cannot modify them just to suit all the free loaders who think they are entitled to special entitlements. They do NOT provide transportation for children who live within a certain distance of the school.

At least everyone who has children in the public school systems are getting a free ride and a free baby sitter. The LEAST you all can do is provide a safe mode of transportation to get them there.

May I ask, why did you even have children if you cannot afford to take care of them?

Jazzie said...

Tragedy unbound.
Families destroyed.
Terror diminished.

How poignant and unexpected.
Killer claims the claws.

Nothing seems what it should be.
Justice remains.

Anonymous said...

I am more upset with the mother for laughing while being interviewed about her daughter missing. If I had missed a phone call, I would be beating myself up more than anyone else could. I wouldn't be making up excuses for why I needed my sleep more than being available for my daughter.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know or have heard anything about why he may have left the backpack where he did?

I saw some photos of him with a girl. He could have passed for thirty. There are a few that are difficult to judge on age. I had a rude man cut in front of me once at a restaurant. When I returned to the table, a woman introduced me to her 16 year-old son. Same man that had just cut me off that I thought was 35 and should have known better.

Wonder what the chemical smell was on the cloth used Memorial Day? Formaldehyde? (sp-can't spell)

Anonymous said...

Stop being such a judgemental asshole, lardass.

You're so bitter because of your weight, so you direct your venom at everyone around you to make yourself feel superior.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, dadgum.

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of misplaced rage here.

Coulda shoulda woulda. I'm sure the mom wishes she could go back in time and drive Jessica to school that day. But I don't think she needs to be attacked here.

Consider this - Jessica was walking to that park to meet up with friends to walk to school. They did so on a regular basis. So obviously it was not just Jessica's mom who thought they were ok to walk to school, especially together. Neighborhood kids probably walk that few blocks to that park on a regular basis to play. I mean, they live in Westminster, not off of East Colfax. Also - people do perceive risk differently, based on their own experiences. Like I said, in Westminster, they probably felt safe. Also, polls show that people who watch crime dramas tend to see the world as more dangerous than people who don't. People who frequent this blog and other similar blogs, and people who follow this sort of news will see the world as more dangerous than those who don't. You all might be more aware of the risk than many people. I walked alone to school at that age. And when I drive my kid to school now, I see plenty of kids that age walking to school.

But also consider this - it was sadly a case of Jessica ending up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sigg is being linked with two other incidents that occurred by that lake, the woman who had someone come up and put the rag over her mouth in May, which I think they may enough to actually charge him on, and another young woman jogger in 2010 who was chased by a guy matching the description of the one from this May. He'd been planning this. How many other times did he watch, unnoticed, for someone to grab? How many close calls were there where he lost his nerve, or maybe another car drove by or someone came out of a house and he 'missed' his chance? I think he had this planned and since no one in the neighborhood seemed to notice anything amiss (people said he was nice, quiet, polite, said 'hi' on the street, etc) it was a matter of time before he carried out his sick plan.

BostonLady said...

I'm glad that they have arrested someone in this horrific murder. Thankfully the mother of the suspect took the right action and turned him in.

As to the few on this blog casting blame on the mother, what is wrong with you? The mother didn't kill her daughter. The blame belongs on the murderer, not the mother. Kids do walk to school every day without incident. Yes there are choices she could have made but it doesn't mean her daughter would not have been murdered. It could have happened when the child exited the bus.

It's cruel to continue blaming the mother for the action of another. And you might want to examine where your anger is coming from. It seems exaggerated for someone you have never met and do not know.

Jazzie said...

ANON @11:11
As a young girl, I stood out by a major highway for school bus with my neighbors. We live in the country. I understand what you are saying. I also say this from a viewpoint that I don't have children.

I don't think that the Mom's weight is a factor in the demise of Jessica. I think her language and that of her aunt in the interviews was "off" but that could've been a result of numerous factors. I usually listen and take my cues from LE statements. I was confused by LE statements when comparing them to the family's statements. In the end I chose to "listen" to LE.

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Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

I was confused by LE statements when comparing them to the family's statements. In the end I chose to "listen" to LE.
October 24, 2012 11:54 PM

The family's statements confused me, and coupled with their behavior Ied me to believe them guilty.

Yukari said...

Hobnob, thank you for the update re: Terri Horman and Dede Spicher.

That deposition is very interesting. Boy has that woman got a lot to hide!

Given the nature of the questions that she refuses to answer, this is definitely not a case in which you could say she´s simply "neutrally" refusing to comment. In this particular case, her saying nothing actually says a lot.


rob said...

I don't blame the mother for what happened to her daughter, BUT the days of allowing a child, of either sex, to be out and about alone are over. Look at this girl, the little girl on the bike in NJ, Sommer Thompson. You get home from work, you drive or walk your daughter to school. The 17 yr old seemed to have decided that the older girls were too much for him to handle, so he went after the 10 yr old. Glad he never got his hands on a taser.
I also read that he had dropped out of high school and went for a GED, then to community college. When a kid drops out of school, there are usually reasons why.
As to his Mom and the Mom in NJ, thankfully they stopped their childrens criminal activity when they found out about it, instead of allowing other innocent people to be harmed by their children, lesson to Cindy Anthony, and Nancy Grace.

Wreyeter72 said...

I have been reading his (or her?) vilification of Jessica's mother with a jaded eye. I wonder if there is a personal connection. I could be wrong, I'm no expert. But I'm here to tell you being fat and letting your kid walk to school with her friends doesn't make you a bad mother. I'm certain Jessica's mother is in such a world of hurt right now... I can't even imagine.

Anonymous said...

I was very angry at Jessica's 'mother' when I first saw the live interview. If I had closed my eyes and just listened to her words and her tone I still would have come to the awful conclusion that this was one missing little girl case which could have so easily been prevented. Several things this woman said led me to understand that this woman's needs came first and her daughter's a distant second. Her physical appearance helped cement my opinion that this woman sees to her own needs ie. that she is well fed and well rested.

I thought this 'mother' had knowledge of what happened to her daughter. What I thought but never verbalized was that this woman had turned to the internet for a relationship and that a creep had gotten to Jessica because of it.

I was wrong on that. All the 'signals' this woman gave off weren't from her knowledge of what happened to Jessica. Instead it was her suspicions about what happened to Jessica, when Jessica was grabbed and WHY the murderer had the opportunity to grab Jessica that gave off waves of guilt from this 'mother'.

She deserves the guilt. She was a lousy mother.

Anonymous said...

The trolls have taken over. Where's Peter and why does he delete these rude folks? They are not practicing SA. They are being rude.

violet said...

I think it's human nature to want to blame someone because we want it to be under our control--something that could have been prevented.

Maybe it could have been. Hindsight is 20/20. But we're not in control of very much. That's scary, but being so cruel to a woman who has lost her child doesn't help. It doesn't bring Jessica back, and it doesn't fix the problems in the world.

Light the Way said...

IDK what the answer is anymore to the question "how do we keep our kids safe"...

On one hand, our children are ALREADY entering their twenties, lacking the necessary skills of independence that are NEEDED when they are sent off to college.

On the other hand, it seems that if we are not hovering over them every second they may not even MAKE IT to college.

How do we strike a balance??

A ten year old SHOULD be able to walk a few hundred yards to her walking buddy's home, without cries of outrage and accusations of "parental negligence" being leveled at her working, single, mother.

We need a better system of identifying and taking steps to deal with seriously disturbed individuals, like Austin Sigg, BEFORE they are allowed to make their murderous debuts.

This was a boy KNOWN to be "infatuated" with death and gore, and have unhealthy attachments to much younger neighborhood girls (girls in Jessica's age-group). Creepy and troublesome "attachments".

Many adults saw troubling traits in Austin Sigg, and tried warning his mother that something "wasn't right" with the boy. He was obsessed with death and gore, violent porn, bondage, and collecting knives, swords and blades...

He then endeavors to study "mortuary sciences" and CSI classes at the community college---where he allegedly creeped out many of his CLASSMATES---with the inappropriately *gleeful* manner he discussed the exploits of famous serial killers.

SO MANY red-flags, why wasn't his path to murder able to be interrupted???

I think we can do better than this as a society.
JMHO

Lis said...

Another RAD kid, I'm guessing.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

I thought this 'mother' had knowledge of what happened to her daughter. What I thought but never verbalized was that this woman had…October 25, 2012 10:24 AM
a male accomplice. I thought it might have been a co-worker. Had this crime not been resolved. I would guess that her accomplice was someone she met at college.
“They left a message on my cell phone, yes. I ‘ve had, I have been applying to college and one of the colleges had been calling (pause) a lot so “
Boyfriends call a lot too.
This murder suspect collected swords.
“a a double fisted (pause) of some kind. Double edged sword. Uh, there's my metaphors. (laughter)”

veteran1969 said...

I wonder if there was a school bus route or availsble that she didnt use becsuse she wanted to walk with friends or if she was to close or to far from her home. Have not heard anythung reguarding.

Keith D. said...

In at least some states that don't have bus service for students who live "too close" to the school, what they DO offer instead are crossing guards at several key intersections for the kids to cross safely at (and also to monitor for reckless drivers or other more nefarious folks who may be stalking or trying to abduct the kids). Is this something Colorado doesn't do? I grew up here for the first 25 years of my life, but in the middle of nowhere where there were neither schools nor buses anywhere nearby, so I have no idea. But when I lived in Arizona, you better believe there was bus service and crossing guards all over the place near every school in the state anytime the kids were making their way to or from school functions. It's called being rational and having reasonable priorities-- maybe other states could look into it before all the rest of our kids get raped and murdered by psychologically deranged jackasses for no real reason.

Politics, man... *shaking my head*