Thursday, March 6, 2014

Police Praise Myra Lewis' Family for Cooperation

Myra has been missing, and it was that she was last seen approximately 11:30AM, but not reported missing until 4PM.  

This time period is critical.  Myra's father has been reported as having gone out on an all-terrain vehicle to search for her, himself.  

This is concerning

Next, we had the mother's statement which avoided the use of Myra's name, and was missing the pronoun, "I", showing distancing language. 

Now, we have a statement of Sheriff Randy Tucker, in which he praises the family for their support.  What is the context of it?

Was it in response to a direct challenge by a journalist?

Or, is there another reason for the statement?

Here is a statement from police: 

We continue to follow leads, and we will not give up. It’s been a difficult time, but the family has been extremely supportive of law enforcement and first responders. They love her, they miss her and they need to get her home.”

1. The need to say that a family is supportive is unexpected:   this is sensitive.  That a family would be anything but supportive is not expected.  The praise of them is similar to 'courting' support.  
2. The support is described as "extremely", making the support,itself,  sensitive.  

It may be that police are targeting the family as having knowledge of what happened to Myra, and are using public praise to keep them talking.  The family has not reached out to a kidnapper as of yet, and search efforts close to the home are completed. 

More statements are needed to draw a conclusion, but the police statement, if not in response to a direct challenge by a journalist, is sensitive. 
Note this:

We’re treating it just as it was reported — she is missing — and that’s how we’re going to pursue it,” he said. “I’ve not specifically received a call that she was taken away from the house.”

How else would they treat it?  This is also unnecessary to say, making it doubly important.  Unnecessary words, in Statement Analysis, are given careful consideration. 

If my child was missing and police complimented me on how "extremely supportive" I had been, I would be angry, at the fact that my child was still missing, and would not appreciate the paternal tone. 

Police feel the need to publicly praise this family.  


101 comments:

Sella35 said...

I am confused by this...“I’ve not specifically received a call that she was taken away from the house.”

Why does he say specifically? And why does he say rec'ed a call? Why not just..I've not heard..or I've not been told...

Terrence said...

Or maybe you're just wrong...?

Sella35 said...

@Terrence well it wouldn't be the first time, I have been wrong... so why did he say specifically, are you privy to the info?

Lanah said...

Publicly praising the family (rolls eyes). That says it all.

This is where I hear alarm bells:

"We’re treating it just as it was reported — she is missing — and that’s how we’re going to pursue it,” he said.

"We're treating it JUST as it was reported"

OK, hold your horses, how ELSE is he treating it? He gives himself away with his words saying he is JUST treating it a certain way.


skip said...

I don't understand why you think it's alarming that he'd look for his missing kid, but you also think it's alarming when a parent doesn't. I can come up with a few reasons why I'd think it's of concern but I want to know what you're thinking.
Can you explain a bit more on this? Thanks!

Sus said...

Sella35,
I also find the last sentence strange. Why even include it? And it...

Switches from "we" to "I"

Changes "house" to "home"

Uses "specifically" to point out "received"

Is said in the negative.

Sus said...

http://m.wapt.com/news/police-go-housetohouse-searching-for-missing-girl/24843626

From this article from today, the sheriff said there were several rumors out there which proved to be untrue. Also, today LE seems to be changing tactics. They are no longer searching around the Lewis home. They are going door to door. Maybe the sheriff meant he'd heard some reliable rumors, but they didn't pan out.

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Anonymous said...

@Skip,
Searching for an hour on an ATV seems like excessive searching, trying to prove that he was really searching. Why have to prove it if he really was?

JerseyJane said...

I think the family lives in an area that Is not known to communicate their concerns with police.. The area folk(black, white, mixed, whoever lives there,color don't matter) probably don't involve themselves, because to have involvement with police is a big no-no in that area( my guess). They mind their own business and don't get involved.

That is why I feel the LE has this "language". The LE knows they usually don't have good communication in that area of town..
Its been like this since the beginning of time.. No one set color.. It could be a very enthic neighborhood, religious neighborhood etc, etc... People want to not be the next target in their neighborhood or be chased out. It happened up here in Trenton NJ. Black councilwoman in her Ward spoke against area crime gangs and her family got death threats, bullets shot at house, and LE knew from territory and gang language what gang was responsible( that area gang has all races in it)..

I live in a neighborhood that doesn't report or witness anything..a child missing is a different matter but there may be witnesses/neighbors that STILL won't talk to police.... Im keeping it real, the language of police may be this way cuz people are all helping and cooperating...i believe the language has no method described above in main post....

CarlaP said...

From what I read, the father thought she was with her mother shopping, the mother thought she was at home with the father...so she wasn't "discovered" to be missing until 3pm, they searched the house/area for her then called police around 4pm. I don't think an hour of looking for her before calling police is suspicious, it doesn't seem out of the range of normal to look for your toddler before contacting police. Am I off with the time frame? It's odd to not have either parent know definitively where Myra was for the hours prior to realizing she was missing, but after they figured it out, their timing/behavior doesn't ring any alarm bells to me.

JoAnn said...

@Skip,
It is expected for a parent to search for a missing child. It is not expected that a parent searches for a missing child for an hour (a child who has been missing for 4 hours already) PRIOR to calling police. You have to look at the behavior surrounding what you are analyzing. It isn't happening in a vacuum.

JoAnn said...

CarlaP,
But once they figured it out, they must have realized that the child hadn't been seen since 11:30. That's a very long time for a two year old to be missing, then another hour looking before calling police. Particularly if family thought she had been abducted? It does alarm me.

Anonymous said...

Walking around searching is one thing, riding around on an ATV is another. For an hour. Think about it.

Peter Hyatt said...

Sella,

I think he is struggling to say "this ain't a kidnap"

Peter

CarlaP said...

"But once they figured it out, they must have realized that the child hadn't been seen since 11:30."


You're right JoAnn, I don't know how I missed that! I see where the suspicion stems from now.

JoAnn said...

Sus,
There were rumors on Twitter & FB all day that the child had been found deceased in two different locations & there has been much criticism from a Find Myra group on FB toward the parents, such as the father wanting to go home & take a nap while others were searching. Some people in the community are posting inflammatory things about the mother & father, even saying that the toddler's sister was posting on IG that the body had been found. I even wondered if law enforcement set up a command center today at a church near the family's home to keep an eye on the situation as much as to head up the search.

Anonymous said...

I thought reports said he searched for an hour, because of the Mom's long grocery trip and neither Mom or Dad realizing that Myra was not with either one of them until around 3 (remember the whole mix up with the Dad thinking she was with Mom and Mom thinking she was with Dad).

JoAnn said...

Sus,
The link to that FB is:
www.facebook.com/groups/634240776630714/?ref=ts&fref=ts
This is the MYRA LEWIS open group, not the help Find Myra group

Anonymous said...

Just curious, are there any other cases where a guilty parent has mimicked searching before placing the call to police to report their child missing?
I am not that familiar with all these cases on here. I know with Justin Dip, he didn't search, the Ramsey's are another case of not even searching their own house. Are there other cases where parents have put on a show of searching BEFORE PLACING THE CALL to cops?

JoAnn said...

@skip,
Good grief! I just read my earlier post to you & it sounds so snotty! I'm very sorry. I am a novice here & I have no business saying "you have to" do anything!!! My only excuse is that someone was talking to me, one of the dogs was pulling & chewing on my sweater & I realized the back door was open & sleet was blowing in.....it just came across all wrong!

Sus said...

So the family is promoting Myra's disappearance as an abducion, yet they haven't "specifically" spoken that concern to LE.

The mother first mentioned "we will not worry about charges."

The father said his dogs and LE's dogs tracked Myra to the road.

The aunt and grandmother outright say Myra has been kidnapped.

Media outlets picked up that cry and said LE declared Myra abducted, which LE denied.

Why did the family promote an abduction from the very beginning?

Anonymous said...

No need for "@" people, this is not twitter.

JoAnn said...

@Anonymous,
#pickaname

Kellie said...

OT

Man charged with murder in connection to Angie Pipkin case

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24905701/police-searching-in-darlington-co-after-getting-tip-about-missing-aynor-woman

Peter Hyatt said...

The family says it was an abduction, but have not reached out to the abductor.

Thinkinghard said...

@ Sus

You wrote " So the family is promoting Myra's disappearance as an abducion, yet they haven't "specifically" spoken that concern to LE.

How can they simultaneously be promoting it as an abduction while not "specifically" expressing their concern? Besides your statement contradicting itself, how do you know what concerns they have communicated to police?

Peter Hyatt said...

RE: Off Topic Posts

I find that the comments section here is sometimes THE best place for breaking news on the web due to the Off Topic posts here of interesting cases.

Please continue!

Thank you,

Peter

Thisthinkingcapistootight said...

Sus wrote The mother first mentioned "we will not worry about charges."

So did Mr Elvis. Just sayin'.

JoAnn said...

OT :
Amber Alert
Caitlyn Marie Virts
11 years old
Dundalk, MD
1999 black Dodge Durango
Her mother was found dead in the home. She is believed to be with her non-custodial father

Sus said...

Peter,
I have to ask. Did you post the CA deposition in hopes we would recognize it?

Anonymous said...

That's a very long time. Things can happen quickly, I have a two year old and I would have called ASAP. Patience is not a virtue when a child is missing.

Red Ryder said...

Peter said "I think he is struggling to say "this ain't a kidnap"

Because once that horse leaves the barn all eyes turn to the house and the family. "What happened? " And family cooperation ceases and lawyers appear.
This would make LEs job way harder.
Where is Myra?

JoAnn said...

Yet the parents remain silent. Their two year old has been missing for days. I expect to hear them express frustration with the police, especially if they believe the child was kidnapped and the police are denying an abduction took place. Where is the anger? Where are the pleas for more help, bigger and better searches, more media coverage, begging the kidnapper to let the child come home?
Instead the community is awash in rumors that a sister told a grandmother that mom backed over the child & dad disposed of the body in a pond, in a river, buried her by the highway, a car seat was found, FBI agents told searchers that dad and mom did not seem sad, and on and on and on. The community is taking to Twitter & FB & IG to express their anger & frustration & heartache. But the parents are quiet.

Anonymous said...

Late Wednesday, a Madison Sheriff's Department Deputy was posted outside the Lewis home.

Officers entered the home briefly and then left, possibly with members of the family. It's unknown why they were there.
http://www.wlox.com/story/24879134/fbi-searches-for-missing-toddler-believe-abducted

CarlaP said...

I can't comprehend why the parents didn't call 911 immediately if there was some kind of accident. Why would they be afraid to call for help? If the rumors prove to be true that the mother accidentally backed over her (unfortunately I have a feeling they will) it is callous and disturbing for a father to dump his little girl's body somewhere shortly after her death. Was the mother afraid of being given a sobriety test? Maybe that's why they waited so long to report Myra missing...to sober up? Obviously all speculation until LE finds some answers, but most telling is their silence. Their behavior indicates they already know what happened and there's no use in public appeals for her return or media attention to search for her. Terribly sad all around.

Anonymous said...

CarlaP, Rumors are just that, rumors. I have to say I highly doubt that the mother accidentally backed over her and that the father then callously disposed of her. Not saying I am convinced the family did not harm her, but that scenario seems a little unlikely.

polywog said...

Casey Anthony comes to mind she "searched" for 30 days.

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Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:421 That was a moving story. I just wish my ears werent burning from all the swears it. Next time could you beep them out. Try writing sh-t instead of, you know, the bad word. Thanks. I'm sure veryone on the board would appreciate it.

shelley said...

anon 11:41 I know I would be like that. my son at 3 yrs old did what alot of kids do and ducked under a clothes rack. it was seconds but the panic that rushed over me, an hour knowing no one had seen her in hours... never.

my feeling is the atv happened... he did drive around for an hour. tgey say some truth enter language. but I think he was searching for a place to possibly hide her if our fears are wrong...

Jen Ow said...

Hi CarlaP,

I thought that the mother likely backed over Myra since first reading her short quote.

"I was leaving to go grocery shopping and I saw her walk back into the house with her sister,"

In the few words the mother spoke, she placed Myra outside, going "back inside", when she "was leaving".

It seems mom is cutting her sentence off right before stating what happened.

As far as why they would choose not to call 911, (while there is never any GOOD reason), there are a few possibilities. They may have a history with CYS, illegal items at the home that would give a reason to pause before calling in LE, or Myra could have had other injuries that they were worried about answering for, etc. All these are sad possibilites, and sorry reasons not to call for help, but in my opinion a person that would even consider NOT calling as an option, probably wouldn't need a very good reason.

Jen Ow said...

I also meant to add problem passing sobriety test, like you mentioned!

Anonymous said...

Anon 1157, that's kind of the point, missing two year old? All bets, and manners, are off. Immediately. A loving parent cares for nothing but getting their baby home.

Anonymous said...

Shelley, atv is very scary. To feel the situation was that desperate but not call 911. No. Something wrong there.

Kellie said...

I have spent the past 30 mins or so trying to find the news clip with Myras father. CBS has removed a clip which I think is the one. I wanted to ask John what he thinks of the fathers expression because I caught a hint of repressing a smile when he was saying please just bring her home. I think it's strange that CBS has removed that clip.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-mississippi-toddler-case-treated-as-abduction/

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john said...

Hi Kellie,

The link you provide doesn't work.

Although i'm not a big advocate of raising funds for families, it is notable that no-one has set up a fund raising account for this particular case. That is unless i have missed something?

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Nic said...

I remember LE saying that the Dunn clan were being supportive. It piques my curiosity when I hear a statement like that that is not responding to anything.

"Just like it was reported." To me this statement makes me think that things aren't as they appear. In other words, that LE is going through the motions of "investigating an abduction" but are in fact are using the opportunity to be in close proximity of the parents to *observe* them/investigate otherwise.

jmo

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S + K Mum said...

I wonder if LE are saying the family are being extremely co-operative in an attempt to stave off the upset locals who are venting anger and frustration towards Myra's parents...via facebook, twitter etc. Also to let the parents believe they are not suspected and prevent them from lawyering up just yet.
Regarding the time taken to report their daughter missing - I agree with others that to discover she hadn't been with either parent for 3 hours then spend ANOTHER hour looking for her; is wrong and very suspiscious. I don't think this is going to have a good outcome. :(

curlyhairedgirl with dimples said...

JoAnn, my guess is, the reason the father was on his ATV is because the family lives on 20 wooded acreas. imo, it would be faster to search than walk the distance. Also, I did a little digging and found 3 register sex ofenders living within 5.5 miles of the Lewis's home. js

JoAnn said...

Curlyhairedgirl,
Searching on an ATV Ina rural area in and of itself is not odd or suspicious. The other facts surrounding the ATV search are what make it stand out. When mom returns from the store, she & dad compare notes & realize little Myra hasn't been with either one of them for the past 4 hours. At this point, dad takes off on the ATV to search for an hour. That is why it is considered suspect. The ATV sits in the Lewis yard, surrounded by crime tape.

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curlyhairedgirl with dimples said...

JoAnn: I don't find it suspect the 'father' searched on his ATV after the mother came home. btw, when Lewis searched with the ATV IT became a potential crime scene evidence. According, to LE the ATV 'stalled. So... lets agree to disagree on that. :) Also, there are reports Greg Lewis is NOT Myra's biological father. This info is coming in from the neighbors. Parental abduction, perhaps?

skip said...

JoAnn, I didn't even take your post as snotty. :) I feel the same way you do, the common sense on this screams for itself, I just wanted to see from an analysis perspective (and not my own perspective) what you guys were thinking.

QChick said...

If she was abducted, maybe she would yell for help. Her mom says she went inside-if so, no abduction. If she was outside (slipped back out) weren't there other children outside ?

JoAnn said...

Curlyhairedgirl,
Of course we can agree to disagree :) I will keep an open mind. After all, my opinion that the hour-long search on the ATV was odd had nothing to do with searching on the ATV itself, nor any statements that were made, but was based on the whole picture regarding parents' behavior. Specifically, after realizing a two year old hadn't been seen by either parent in four hours, there is an additional hour delay before calling police. Regardless of what the parents are doing in that hour, that is additional valuable time spent before getting the help of authorities,

Putin???ukraine????wtf? said...

^^^^^^ so if the"admin"disagrees with so many peoples views /opinions are the people or the admin "wrong"? Deleting all these peoples thoughts is disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Also from the Skycopter we can see other crews using heavy equipment, a compact track loader, to dig on parts of the property.
http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/24907111/dummy-script-toddler-missing?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

JoAnn said...

Skip,
Thank you for that. I was very embarrassed.

Red Ryder said...

Ridgeland police K-9 unit has just arrived at the checkpoint to help with the search.

Multiple agencies, including the FBI, Madison Deputies, the Madison Police Department are set up at a command center near the home.

From our Skycopter, we can see dozens and dozens of officials searching the property around the home. Officers are searching, spaced several feet apart, apparently using a grid approach."

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/24907111/dummy-script-toddler-missing?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Thank you, Anon, for the news link, as sad as it is. I am thankful LE is there searching. What a difficult job:( LE has pulled out all the stops with K-9, FBI, Sheriff and local PD.
Where is Myra?

JoAnn said...

The best thing for the community is to see the police making some progress in this search. There are angry rumblings on social media from various groups in the area, one group who searched on Wednesday (they said 12 FBI agents joined their search, which sounds a little strange) but who say they were asked to stop by the "county boys" (I guess that would be the sheriff's dept.). Police aren't allowing anybody in the area near the home & have roads blocked. This group is planning to meet in the morning and "search anyway." There is so much frustration, so many rumors, & angry comments directed at Myra's family, it sounds like a situation that could heat up quickly.

Sus said...

Anon from other post (Maggie?)
The mother said, "I was leaving to go grocery shopping. I saw her with her sister walk back inside."

It may be that the father did something to Myra as you think, but I can't make that leap simply from the mother's words.

"I was leaving" does not say she actually left. Like JenOw said, it seems like a stopped statement.

"I saw" is past and comes off truthful, so what did she see?

"I saw her WITH her sister" not her and her sister. WITH creates distance. It seems they were not doing the same thing, which is...

"Walk back inside" The WALK seems important to me somehow. Why didn't she say "go inside" ? Her mind pulled ou "walk" BACK tells me Myra was outside at the time mother was leaving.

Shelley said...

If mom and/or dad did do something... I pray they find her and that there is justice!

Sus said...

I have to think since LE keeps searching around the home, they suspect the parents. :-(

Sus said...

Sorry, that should be "I saw her walk back inside with her sister.

Anonymous said...

Sus,

I agree with you and JenOw, "I was leaving to go grocery shopping" is a stopped statement. It tells us one thing: she intended to leave/wanted to leave/was thinking about leaving.

As far as she says she "saw Myra and her sister walk back into the house"

You wrote
I saw" is past and comes off truthful, so what did she see?"

I agree, the truth is there in that she visually checked to make sure something was occurring.
My thoughts are that she may have seen them walk into the house...the unknown is whether they immediately came back out. This is what is making me think there was violence occurring, Dad hurting or threatening Mom, the kids walked back out of the door to see what was going on.
It is a leap I'm taking.
You wrote the "walk" seems important somehow. I agree. Good point. I get the feeling of, hesitation on the part of the kids, "go back inside" would be a fluid action, without hesitating. "Walk back inside"--could it indicate the mother watching each step? Dad is angry, they are not going fast enough, they are stopping to turn back around, she finally sees them get back in the house.
I agree with you. You get the feeling they came back out. Absolutely. They probably did. There is a lot of tension in her statement with the posture of "walking" as you pointed out.
We had so little to work with statement wise. You caught much more in it than I could have!

Anonymous said...

Sorry, it should have said "Myra with her sister", an oversight on my part.
I am not sure what to make of the "with". You pointed out the "distance". I wonder could it literally mean they were "walking" at different speeds? Or the older one kind of tugging on the other one trying to get her "Myra" to walk?

curlyhairedgirl with dimples said...

Lets say, Myra walked back into the house with the children as mom was leaving. Did Myra go back outside and try to follow mom?What are the ages of the other children and what are they saying? For instant, did dad leave after mom went to the store? There are so many missing pieces. What I don't understand, is if the family is being deceptive, why not have a better story? I'm waiting to hear from Myra's 'biological'father.

Sus said...

"You get the feeling they came back out."
No, all I know is the mother said she saw the sisters walk BACK INSIDE. That tells me they were outside. I have no idea if they went outside after she supposedly left. That goes beyond the given statement.

I also have no idea if there was domestic violence. May be, but I can't take that leap from that statement.

As you said, you're taking a leap there. It's hard not to base your analysis on your own emotions and history. I know. I find myself doing it a lot, also.

Sus said...

Curly,
I read through the mother's FB. They celebrated their eighth wedding anniversary last Fall, together eleven years. I wonder why neighbors said that? Is it just a mean-spirited rumor or truth to it?

If you haven't seen her FB, there is the cutest clip of Myra dancing at a parade. What a darling!

Anonymous said...

Curlyhaired,

That is what I am thinking happened,that Myra walked back out. Although other children there may have seen her walk back out (there were reports the children had told the Dad she was with Mom), they may not have (theoretically) seen what happened to Myra after she walked back out. I am wondering if what happened to Myra is that she came back outside and "got in the middle" of the father attempting to assault, threaten, or pursue the mother and he may have lashed out at Myra. I am thinking the other child(ren) may have been told to go back inside previous to the harm befalling Myra. The father may have then told the children "Myra went with your mother to the store" when, in fact, she had been maybe killed and the father was planning on disposing of her? It is very possible the father could have spun any number of lies at that point, such as saying the mother backed over her with a car, etc. Just an idea. Curious to hear what others think.

Anonymous said...

Sus, point taken, I try not to project my own emotions, and it is quite difficult.
Sticking to the statement itself, the mother seeing her "walk back inside with her sister". I try to place myself in that person's mind (as best I can) and see what they are seeing, what are they recalling when they say these words. So I picture...This mother is tense, she is watching every step of these children, wanting these children to go back inside, the children are probably not going fast enough, hesitating, but she is watching every step and finally sees them get inside. So then I ask myself, go back inside to get away from what? One of the only logical things I can think of is domestic violence or anticipated domestic violence. But I could be totally off.

Anonymous said...

Oh and Curlyhaired, you are right, it is not a good story, not a good alibi story. To me, it says there are 2 possibilities
1) They are telling the truth.
2) One parent committed the harm to Myra. The "alibi" that was created is one parent completely lying, the other telling partial truth.

Kellie said...

john said...
Hi Kellie,
The link you provide doesn't work.
Although i'm not a big advocate of raising funds for families, it is notable that no-one has set up a fund raising account for this particular case. That is unless i have missed something?

March 7, 2014 at 4:39 AM

Hi John
Yes the link is to the CBS site and they have removed the clip of Myra's father. I wonder if anyone else has a live link to that interview? I'd really love to know what you think of the father's facial expressions. :)

JoAnn said...

Local news media tweeting that they have seen trucks hauling generators & lights up Mt Pilgrim Rd, which has been blocked all day. They are saying the search seems to be going on into the night,

Red Ryder said...

Here is one, it starts, cuts to a commercial, then continues.
http://www.wjtv.com/story/24875784/missing-madison-county-toddler-may-have-been-abducted
This is from the first time the family spoke out.

Anonymous said...

I keep thinking about the word "saw" as used by the mother, and I'm reconsidering things.
I am actually thinking of Jen Ow's theory about Myra possibly being run over by the car.
Do I think she was run over? Not necessarily (although I do think it is a very good theory.)
Here is what I am thinking: I am thinking why did the mother use the word "saw"...Could it be because she was looking into a mirror (a car rear view mirror maybe) when she "saw" the sisters go back in the house? Could it be because she was looking out through a window? A car window? A house window?

kristi hurley said...

I want to set aside the atv, time frame, statements and anything else that brings my emotions into it... 10 kids and at least 2 adults and no one saw Myra? How many people were with baby Ayla

Anonymous said...

kristi hurley,
You make a good point. Something is very fishy about the whole situation. In the link provided by Red Ryder, I find the woman who talks for the family to be suspicious in her emotional presentation. I truly wonder if there was something whacko going on in the church, perhaps some members of the group said Myra "had to go" for some reason, maybe as a penalty for the mother "sinning" by being with another man (if rumors are true that Myra had a different bio Dad).

Sus said...

Good point. Could be she saw her through a rearview mirror or window.

Sus said...

I'd also like to know exactly how many children were around the house at the time Myra went missing. The best I can figure out the mother and father have five girls from age two to looks like nine to eleven and an infant son born in January. The father has older daughters and it seems at least one lived or may still live with them. He also has grandchildren around the same age as his children. Soooo, there could have been any number of children there. Wouldn't you think one would talk if something happened bad happened to Myra?

Anonymous said...

You would think one of the kids would have seen something.
I wish John or someone who knows body language analysis could look at the link redryder posted.
The lady who talks seems suspicious. It does bother me too how she says "the pain of losing a loved one". This is usually said when someone dies. Then the camera flashes briefly to the mother who looks to me like she is being held hostage by her demeanor, not literally, but almost like she is being held hostage by the "lie" going on.
The father almost does seem to be smiling.
The children look well cared for.
So what the heck happened to Myra?

Kellie said...

That's the one Red Ryder! Thank you so much.

Have a look John. See what you see in the father's face.
http://www.wjtv.com/story/24875784/missing-madison-county-toddler-may-have-been-abducted

polywog said...

Who goes to the grocery store for that long, I do not believe that at all or if so she was stalling for an alibi.

kristi hurley said...

In response to the body language, being deaf I myself rely on to help reach a conclusion. I say help because you can tell how someone feels but not why. In the video, the woman speaking appears to show fear and sadness. I do see what I think you mention on the dad. He seems to show pride and/or smugness? (Which I can not explain in any way shape or form) in every shot of mom all I see is a void or disconnect like you see in an autistic so I am very unsure about her

Kellie said...

Hi Kristi

Yes the father seems to almost grin and to me it's a look of, seems harsh but, he's repressing a laugh because he isn't sure anyone is buying it.

Agreed on the Mother. She's really shut down. Not shocked but just a complete disconnect.

John is really good with the body language and I am anxious to know if he sees any of this too or if I'm just off the beam.

kristi hurley said...

I apologize. I meant to put an autistic person, but even now looking at that, after reading your post, I see it is wrong. I should have said someone with autism. Again, I'm sorry

kristi hurley said...

Anon @4:15 was right. I feel bad. I sometimes forget to use "hearing english" but I feel bad

JoAnn said...

MSNewsNow.com reports that the search was called off during the night, but expected to resume Saturday. There is no report from any of the local news that I can find that says an arrest took place. There are many on FB saying the police took the parents' SUV, but I haven't seen anything from news media about that. There is still a staging area at a nearby church & there were reports that a lot of digging was done on the property with various backloader type machines.
Still, Myra has not been found.

Peter Hyatt said...

Kristi

no apology is necessary.

Peter

curlyhairedgirl with dimples said...

At this point, I don't know what to believe. I'm still on the fence about the alleged biological dad. Neighbors are nosy, especially in the South. They also tend to start rumors. However, usually they are right to a certain degree. (Some spin the truth to make it more dramatic). In this case, I believe mom cheats/cheated and Myra could have a different father than the other children. Also, the 4 hours long trip to the store is troubling. Did mom meet Myra's biological dad and hand her over to him or maybe he took her when they met? imo, mom needs to clear up the rumors (where theres smoke, theres fire) and tell what really happened. Something smells with moms version and it aint fish!

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anon said...

John, Thanks! Very interesting your read on the father--the false chewing and indicating possible anger. I wonder if his anger caused harm on Myra.
The woman you got a read on (that's the one I think is suspicious but I dont think she is Myra's Mom). I agree, the false start with the "she" is weird and so interesting about the look of contempt when she says "take her to the police department".
This sounds weird, but I wonder if some people in their "circle" decided to take Myra.
Kristi Hurley, VERY interesting what you said about the mother seeming autistic. This would correlate with her silence. Not saying she is autistic literally but she has "shut down". I wonder if Myra was taken from her by people in their group (church/family) and she knows it?

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