Wednesday, March 19, 2014

Tammy Moorer's Alleged Facebook Post


With Facebook, we often see a need for the public display of affection from spouses.  Rather than tell a spouse how wonderful he is, it is often posted for everyone else to see, which suggests a need.  This need could be from many fronts, but it is a need, nonetheless.  

Sidney is "stupid" for having an affair, making Tammy the "smart" one, who, perhaps in their minds, was able to 'take care' of the stupidity and be done with it.  See Sidney's response.  

"For my husband Sidney....

7 Reasons Why I Love You More Than Ever

1. You are a phenomenal husband.

2. You always put me and the babies first...you are an amazing father.

3. You are an awesome chef. ;)

4. you have never lost your temper, hit me, or hurt me in any way.

5. you work hard and pay the bills on time, no matter what we have to live without.

6. You are the most gracious, kindhearted, compassionate man I have ever known.

6. You are Sidney!

Before I met you most of my boyfriends were rockstars. In '97 I was burnt out on that lifestyle and ready for a change. I tried so hard to forget about that life and concentrate on our marriage, and was successful for many years. In 2009 I reconnected with my past and that changed us. I begged you to leave and you stayed anyway. Here and now I want to apologize for running out on us. I wish I had never hurt you, and I want to thank you for always being there. You are my BEST FRIEND. You have and always will be the only rockstar I need. I love you baby!
Happy Valentines Day" 



Take another look at this:

Before I met you most of my boyfriends were rockstars. In '97 I was burnt out on that lifestyle and ready for a change. I tried so hard to forget about that life and concentrate on our marriage, and was successful for many years. In 2009 I reconnected with my past and that changed us. I begged you to leave and you stayed anyway. Here and now I want to apologize for running out on us. I wish I had never hurt you, and I want to thank you for always being there. You are my BEST FRIEND. You have and always will be the only rockstar I need. I love you baby!

Note:  "tried" in the past tense is indication of failure, unless the subject specifies success.  Here the success was only for "many years" instead of simply being successful.   She then gives the specific of being unable to "change"which she said she was "ready for", but does not say, internally, that she changed. 

Note minimization:  "my boyfriends were rockstars" rather than being a "groupie"is expected language.  

Note "never hurt"; now compare this with the post above with Sidney #4 having "never hurt"

29 comments:

Chipmunk! said...

"5. you work hard and pay the bills on time, no matter what we have to live without."

I wonder what she feels she has had to live without? I wonder what she feels about living without?

john said...

Hi Peter, here is his reply.

Reasons 2 and three stand out to me, and given that she appears to be the more dominant one and he the more submissive, i think reflect's in his reasons.

Sidney Moorer's reply.

Well here are 8 of the reasons I love you. SORRY I had to one up you...haha

1. You are an amazingly STRONG woman

2. You have stood by me through so much, when other people back away you walk right into it with me.

3. You have always given it your all even when it gets tough.

4. You put up with my many flaws and still love me.

5. Duh, you're the most beautiful, sexy woman I have ever met and the way you love me makes me feel so good. That's why I can't exist without you. You make me whole.

6. You are the best mother and wife anyone could ever ask for and I am lucky to have someone so awesome to help raise our kids.

7. I'm not a rock star but you have always treated me like I was and no one ever has done that for me.

8. You are my best friend and I could never thank you enough for being an amazing one.

Happy Valentines Day
I Love You

Anonymous said...

Hobnob/John UK police are investigating a Portuguese pedophile in the maddie "investigating",any views on this ?? The parents are fooling all the UK media!!

elf said...

I do not think Sidney wrote that. His phone was still being held by Tammy per the agreement Sidney signed to save his marriage after he cheated in their open relationship :/

Theresa said...

Why would Tammy feel the need to list Sidney never abusing her as a reason why she loves him? It seems very awkward to introduce that into a list of why you love someone.

"You're a great chef, you pay the bills on time, and oh, you've never beat me!"

Another interesting thing is that she specifies that he has never lost his temper, hit her, or hurt HER in any way. Has he ever lost his temper towards the kids? Why not mention them? What about anyone else?

This came AFTER Heather was killed. Could she be implying that he has hurt someone else, but it wasn't her, TM, so it is OK that he did it, and maybe the fact that he did makes her "love" him more?

Nic said...

Awesome. Thanks for posting this, Peter.

If I was Sidney, I don't think I would be very flattered by her 'reason' to love list. (Head versus heart.)

bottom of the list --> #7 him personally

Before him (first and most important) boyfriends were mostly rockstars (exciting). Comparatively, he is dated/interim/expired (2009) Sidney, the husband.

begged you to leave- emotion perfectly placed (sensitive/story telling/lie). Most likely she yelled at him to get out.

and you stayed anyway. Anyway means there was a choice and he picked wrong.

Here and now (2014) - missing time What happened in the five years between 2009 and 2014... Change in relationship status. Begins as husband and ends up her "best friend". Caps/yelling/persuasive/that's all. No romance. No intimacy.

A lot of qualifiers that weaken the adjectives (phenomenal, amazing, awesome) which indicates to me that her list reflects what they fight about... he hasn't been a good husband, he puts his own needs first, he's lazy and they go without because he hasn't been a good provider, he doesn't fulfill her emotionally, there is no intimacy. He's just "Sidney" who makes her reminisce/long for glorious bygone days. Exclamation! (frustration)

Also note that Tammy began posting on the Disney board in 2008 and they began traveling Disney ships umpteen times a year after that. Here and now she elevates him to 'rockstar' status over and above Disney characters.

jmo


Nic said...

*meant nouns not adjectives

Nic said...

In response to Tammy is on record as the only thing they "are guilty of is loving Disney". Not each other.

This is a third-party "quote" but it is interesting how the author repeated what Tammy Moorer told her:

"Tammy Caison Moorer insists that the only thing she and her husband are guilty of is "loving Disney" -- ... But going to Disneyland and appreciating the many beloved characters have absolutely nothing to do with the disappearance of Heather Elvis"

Framed is "are guilty"

Did Tammy say, "The only thing Sidney and I are guilty of is...."

She put her *and* him together with guilt.

Additionally, Disney is what they love. Not each other. (absolutely not/hing) Heather. (sensitive)

Absolutely nothing to do with the disappearance of Heather Elvis.

"are guilty..disappearance of Heather Elvis."

Disneyland (her word or author's?)

There is Disneyland and Disney cruise which she has posted her love of over and over again. Why say land? Is Heather in the ground and not water? Is there an amusement park or sorts around there? What was the shopping area they exposed themselves at?

jmo

http://www.chelseahoffman.com/2014/01/exclusive-interview-chelsea-talks-to.html

Nic said...

Is that why (Sidney) admires her strength?

Was he referring to her emotional strength or physical strength?

Strength, endurance, tenacity, are the top three reasons.

Shoot, shovel, shut-up.

jmo

Anonymous said...

OK, people I am done with coming up with horse is a zebra theories, but I do want to comment here.

Tammy's facebook love list does contain indicators she had been physically abused by Sidney. I for one am not convinced Sidney was the abused partner. No matter how "neatly" that may seem to fit into the repulsion we all feel towards Tammy, I have some problems with it.
First of all, abusers lie! Where is the info coming from the Tammy cuffed Sidney to the bed every night? From Sidney? Let me ask the men here something, is there a single man commenting on here who believes their wife would be able to get them to submit to being handcuffed to the bed every night for 6 mos.(as a punishment, because I see that the question I just asked is very open to jokes)? Secondly, Sidney's repeated cheating is a form of abuse in and of itself. I am not saying this to defend Tammy! I am saying this because I think people are skewing things to make it look "neat". Tammy is a dominatrix, Sidney her abused, cowed husband, but unless a single man here will say that they believe a woman could succeed in making them sign an agreement to be cuffed to a bed every night and actually feel intimidated to carry through with it allowing the cuffing, I am not convinced that Tammy was the abuser particularly since the FB love list indicates he was a physical abuser to her.
I am also curious why Tammy's texts contain constant use of ellipses but any other writing I have seen of hers contain no ellipses. I genuinely am curious about this! From what I have seen of reading FB, internet, whatever, people either use them or they don't. I personally have never seen someone who does not use them suddenly switch into using them at the end of every sentence or, in fact, using them at all so I just wanted to throw that out there.

Anonymous said...

I just went to read the other post, containing Sidney's reponse on fb. I did notice he used an ellipse, not frequently, but it is a list, however he did use one so I think that is worth noticing since this is SA

"Well here are 8 of the reasons I love you. SORRY I had to one up you...haha"

JoAnn said...

"You have never lost your temper, hit me, or hurt me..."
First of all, I can't picture myself making a "list" of the reasons I love my husband, unless someone else asked me to make the list, like an exercise in therapy or something. And if I did make a list, it wouldn't be so meager! Something is desperately wrong when, on a short list of 7 things, you have to resort to the negative. "You never hit me" is like saying "you aren't a bank robber or a terrorist." But maybe in Tammy's world, this is considered extraordinary & unexpected. If she grew up in a violent household, and resorts to yelling and hitting when she's angry, she may think her husband is unusually kind because he doesn't do those things. We have seen words from her that paint a picture of rage. Rage can be as addicting as any substance, as it changes the chemicals in your brain. A rageoholic and control freak will look for reasons to feel that explosive rage - it's their "fix." It saddens me to think that young Heather came face to face with that rage. I made many poor decisions when I was twenty, and I was naive enough to think nothing bad could happen to me. I did not know then that there are people who just don't know how to be in the world with others.

JoAnn said...

Anonymous @ 12:41
I can easily picture Sidney agreeing to his "punishment" at Tammy's hands. Their dynamic seems to be one of sadism & masochism. A masochist would derive pleasure from being handcuffed and "disciplined." She is the controlling, dominating partner - he is the submissive, controlled partner. It would be a sick and abusive relationship. Perhaps Sidney was beginning to tire of the sordid nature of their marriage, and was seeking someone fresh, young and untainted (normal), who desired him & looked up to him (as the "hot guy who fixes things"). It's possible that he really wanted to free himself from the marriage, and that is something a controlling, dominating partner cannot allow.

Anonymous said...

Joann, I agree, but I question whether Tammy was the rager. I question whether the texts were written by her. (Although certainly she may have raged, I am dumbfounded at how a person's grammar can change so dramatically as we see when contrasting any of her other writing with the texts that were sent.) I don't see how with SA people can ignore that complete change in grammatical style coming from the texts.

I also stand by Peter's intial analysis of her FB post, (even though I realize he has said he was wrong because it was an an attitude of extreme contempt he had never seen from a perpetrator in their writing) and reading people's comments, I disagree that she wrote that hateful FB post with an attitude like "see noone will believe I harmed her because I'm being so open about how much I hate her". I disagree, because the content of the writing does not indicate this. It does not indicate someone overcompensating by "overly" insulting. It's a free flow of how she felt, which was nasty as hell, but I see nothing contrived in the nasty fb post.

Anonymous said...

Sorry I sent that last post without reading the one you just wrote, guess we kinda sent them at the same time, so I'm going to read it now.

Anonymous said...

I should correct what I said. I just reread what I wrote. I don't mean to say Tammy's fb post was not "overly" insulting. It was extremely cruel, however I just don't think that it was contrived, it was a free flow of her bitterness and nastiness and callousness, but I don't think it is contrived.

JoAnn said...

Anonymous,
Tammy's FB post was more than just hateful. It was rage on a page.
Unless you are saying she didn't write that either? I believe she wrote it, and I think she sent those texts.

Anonymous said...

I do believe she wrote the rage on a page facebook post. I'm just generally interested in the very different grammatical style of the texts, I've never seen someone switch like that from not using ellipses to using them constantly.

I think people are skewing things that Tammy had way more power than she did.

One thing noone disagrees on is Sidney is a cheater. Guys that cheat are some of the best liars. That's all I'm saying. Anything coming from his mouth, I question the veracity.

JoAnn said...

Anonymous,
Do you have other examples of her writing to compare? All I have seen are the FB rant, the "list," and a handful of texts. I would need to see much more to be able to compare her use of ellipsis to her non-use of ellipsis. I use them sometimes, but not all of the time. I have friends who use them a lot, but without seeing much more writing by Sidney, I couldn't begin to speculate on that topic.

Red Ryder said...


Anytime TM would compliment anyone it was calculated to what it could return to her, it's all about the end game.
After talk of her rock star boyfriends and "reconnecting" with her past, she tells SM
"You are my BEST FRIEND". My first thought when I read that was "FRIENDZONED". Oh the manipulations!

Anonymous said...

If one wants to free themselves from marriage they get a divorce. They don't cheat and then go home to the wife and kids, that would be having your cake and eating it too.

JoAnn said...

Anonymous @ 3:30
You are speaking as if this couple had a normal relationship, where one partner had an affair & could have told his wife, gotten a divorce and moved on.
There's a different dynamic here, where one partner is dominating & controlling (abusive) with all the power. A masochist could no more go home & demand a divorce from the sadistic partner than a three year old could demand his own apartment.

JoAnn said...

Anon @ 6:19
If we all thought along those lines, we would say to abused women, "You're an adult. Just go home & demand a divorce!" And that would be that. If you have no understanding of the psychology of someone who is dominated & controlled, nor any wish to understand, I can only hope you never have contact with someone who is in a domestic violence situation.

Please take a name, any name.

Anonymous said...

I do not believe somebody who was not afraid to cheat was dominated and controlled to the extent they were afraid of divorce. He wanted the best of both worlds and got caught!

Atlchanel said...

On the last reason she is very detailed. Was that really necessary? She could have just wrote that he stood by her during a difficult time in their marriage. She seems to want everyone know that she is desired by rock stars. Really? She also had to tell everyone on the Disney board. She worked the whole rock star in there even though no one asked.

Anonymous said...

Good posts anonymous ^, I like how u think.

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Red Ryder said...

JoAnn said: There's a different dynamic here, where one partner is dominating & controlling (abusive) with all the power. A masochist could no more go home & demand a divorce from the sadistic partner than a three year old could demand his own apartment.

I can only hope you never have contact with someone who is in a domestic violence situation.


Word!

Also, Anon it would be wonderful to be able to call you something else to tell you apart from all the others. Thanks for your comments, they make me look at things from diiferent angles (not that I always agree but it's good to consider all the reasonable possibilities).

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