Monday, March 11, 2013

Baby LIsa: New Poster

This is likely to cause an angry reaction among readers.

We will review some of the deceptive statements made by Deborah Bradley after reporting Lisa missing.

Please note that when a subject introduces a topic, the topic is important.  We now have confirmation that alcohol played a role that night.  Next, we will hear that infidelity played a role, even as the parents report that this has brought them closer together. 

*Please note that unless a subject tells us something, we cannot affirm to it. In this analysis, the mother, Deborah Bradley, did not say she was drunk, but avoiding saying so, even though they want this information known.

PA: You told us that police even accused you of killing your daughter.

This is the perfect place to issue a reliable denial. 

DB:  MmmHmm.  Mmm Hmm

Deborah Bradley does not deny killing Lisa. 

PA: How has that been for authorities to focus on you at times?

DB: Terrible because my daughter is missing.   The last thing that I want to have to worry about is something like that.  I shouldn't have to put any energy and time or effort into anything but finding her.

Note that she has to put "energy", "time" or "effort" into worrying about being the focus.  Note "but finding her". What is her energy, time or effort being put into finding "her"?

PA: Were you drinking that night?

DB: Yes.

PA: How much?

DB: Uh, enough to be drunk.

Note that she does not say she was drunk.  Unless she tells us she was drunk, we cannot say so.

PA: So you were drunk?

DB: Mmm Hmm.

She gives affirmation but does not say the words that she was drunk.  Please note that lying is stressful, and a "yes or no" question is the easiest to lie to, yet here she does not use words.  Alcohol is a sensitive topic (as is infidelity in this investigation) but she did not use words to say so.

PA:  A lot of people are going to say Deborah you were drunk that night, a lot of people are going to say, "Deborah, you were drunk that night, is there any chance you did anything to hurt your daughter that you're just not telling us?

DB:  No, no, no and If I thought there was a chance I'd say it.  No.  No.  I don't think that alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that.

Please note that her denial consists of the repetition of the word "no" five times showing a repeated sensitivity to the question of alcohol playing a role in Lisa's demise.  Note that she only "thinks" which shows weakness and uses the word "person", gender neutral, and does not say that it did not change her This indicates deception regarding alcohol playing a role in Baby Lisa's demise. 

Note that the camera went to a close up of Deborah and Jeremy's hands, and that Deborah is clutching Jeremy's leg and he is  holding his own  hands.  Body language experts have said that Jeremy's behavior is a form of self comfort and her behavior suggests control.  This may remind some of the Anthonys. 

PA:  Do you in any way question that she;s not telling you or police everything that she knows?

JI:  No.  There's, there's no question to be had there.  I know who she is.  I know, what kind of mother she is. 

Please note that Jeremy says he knows who she is, what kind of mother she is, but does not deny that Lisa was harmed by Deborah.  

PA: Does it seem feasible to you that someone could have gotten in while you and your two boys were sleeping and you wouldn't have heard a thing.

JI:  Our bedroom is on the exact opposite corner of the house and uh, she sleeps with the fan on high.

Please note that they reported having a baby monitor.  Please note that in the two part question, the interviewer brings up the boys as well.  He answers for Deborah, but not about the boys. 

DB:  Yeah, but they must have been doing it much quieter than the police were.

PA:  You told us that police said you failed a lie detector test.  What question or questions did they say you failed?

DB:  They said that I failed when they asked me where she was.

Regarding Deborah and Jeremy refusing to let the police re interview Lisa's half brothers:  

DB:  They said they heard noises.  But I don't know if that was before um, we went to sleep or after.  I have not sat down and talked to them about it.  Specifically to not have to put them through anything else.

Please note that the kids heard noises relating to Lisa's disappearance but after 2 weeks the mother reports that she hasn't talked to them about it.  

   She begins with "they said" but denies speaking to them about it, adding body posture (sat down) indicating tension associated with the noises they heard.  She would have us believe that the boys said they heard noises, but Deborah did not respond to them with "what did you hear?", which indicates that she did not want to ask them, even after all of this time, because she does not need the information about the noises they heard.  

This shows that Deborah made enough noise to leave her certain that the children heard her. 

"To not have to put them through anything else."  She would

PA:  If the person who took your baby daughter is out there watching this right now what would you say to them?

DB:  She needs her family.  We need her.  We're losing more sanity as each day progresses.

She is to be speaking directly to the kidnapper and wants the kidnapper to know that they are losing their sanity more each day.  

The interview was 45 minutes with only a few moments played thus far.  In the short interview, Deborah Bradley is deceptive in her denial that alcohol played a role in what happened to Baby Lisa.  She also reveals that, like Jeremy, her own personal comfort level takes precedence over Baby Lisa, similar to when Jeremy ended an interview, as a man and father of Lisa, because he was tired. 

Jeanine Piro spoke next who now says the change of story, particularly the time frame, in which Deborah previously said she checked on Lisa at 10:30PM, but now reports that the last time she saw her was when she put her to bed/sleep at 6:40PM.  

This is an essential change in which likely indicates sensitivity (critical missing information)  between 6:40PM and 10:30PM.  

The time period mentioned earlier was 10:30PM that Deborah said she "checked" on Lisa.  10:30PM should also be considered highly sensitive to the case. 

In Statement Analysis, we look for critical points in the account.  We expect to hear a response from someone associated with the family in regards to this change.   


Hobnob said...

I think a polygraph on a certain duo will disprove the claim of this poster.

Is taco joe still around and if so who is paying him?

What has prompted the release of this poster at this time given the deafening silence since she vanished.

This has not come about because the parents are desperate to find Baby Lisa, This has not come about as the latest in a long line of appeals to the public, this has come about for another reason.

Is a grand jury being organised?
Do LE have some new information pointing to debbie and so the public need to be distracted a case of o0o lookie here and not over there.

Something is making them nervous, nervous enough to create a poster.
What are they distracting us from, what are they pre-empting?

john said...
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john said...

PA: If the person who took your baby daughter is out there watching this right now what would you say to them?

DB: She needs her family. We need her. We're losing more sanity as each day progresses.

Here DB has the opportunity to reach out to the alledged abductors,using baby Lisa's name,to personalise Lisa,to tell them/he/she her needs.
All she says is."She needs her family" and then starts talking about whats happening to them.Its not much of a plea from a mother who has had her daughter abducted?

Vita said...

From the parental portal, was this written by DB or JI -??

Written to Lisa, it is signed below, Love Daddy and Mommy

She is blinded by pain? as it is written. When, You are blinded by your pain, a run on sentence.

These people, as I do see them as individuals, not a couple. They have shown us, told us who they are. They have not and will not tell anyone where Lisa is. It's what unites them, for either or to tell, would untie them. Unravel their Atty as well, can't have that.

Under " About Lisa"

For Lisa-
There can be miracles, when you believe. They don’t always happen right when you ask. When you’re blinded by your pain and you can’t see your way straight through the rain a small but still resilient voice says hope is very near :-) Lisa you are our miracle. You are the completion of our family, our happiness, and our hearts belong to you. When you come home you’ll be everyone elses miracle too. You have already brought so much faith and hope into peoples lives…we are so proud of you and who you are going to grow up to be. We love you to the moon & back. Love, Daddy and Mommy.
Not even 48 hours past, and they both? or DB said to JI - NO MORE POLICE - why? they were getting close to finding Lisa, nope.

It was they were finding out that DB was the PERP, everything led back to HER. JI said game over, sorry LE, we are not cooperating any more, because you're being too mean to Debbie, boo hoo. JI Father of the Year, his Kahunas can be found inside a Wine box. Lisa Irwin meant nothing to them, as they have proven it.

BostonLady said...

From Vita's article above:

There can be miracles, when you believe.

This wasn't from Debbie. She took it from a song. Mariah Carey sang it in the Prince of Egypt.

So Debbie can't even come up with her own words and feelings for her baby daughter, Lisa?

BostonLady said...

Grandparents, Aunts, and Uncles… you may be holding our daughter in your arms. The people who have our daughter Lisa are lying to you.(from the reward poster)

Is this contradicting, not making sense? How can Grandparents, Aunts and Uncles be holding their (Debbie's and J's) daughter in their arms if at the same time the “people” who have their daughter are lying to them? If the "people" have their daughter, then how can the categories above also have their daughter? Do the people have Lisa or is it the grandparents, aunts and uncles. And I’d ask why Debbie and J limited it to just these categories. What about brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers ??????

Even their reward poster is deceptive

Apple said...

The two boys will grow to have a different belief than their parents. When they realize what happened, all the *protection* the parents believe they are providing will be lost. Instead of taking ownership, the parents are trenching lies and deception. It is all heartbreaking.

Jen said...

Wow-this flyer is troubling on many levels. First, I obviously don't believe anyone is holding Baby Lisa, in their arms, because cadaver dogs hit on the home she went 'missing' from. I don't know about all of you, but I don't keep cadavers in my home, nor do I know anyone who does... so the idea of a 'missing' baby and cadaverine occurring in the same home seems VERY unlikely to me.

Second, why do they assume to know the situation their 'missing' baby is experiencing? They separate the GP, Aunts and Uncles as innocent bystanders and label the 'people who have her', (passive) as liars? If what they are alleging were true these 'people' would be KIDNAPPERS..far worse than liars. This also assumes these 'people' are aware that their child was 'kidnapped'. How do they know that Lisa wasn't adopted by unknowing parents who are clueless that their child was a victim of abduction? Easy answer...they know Lisa wasn't kidnapped, adopted, nor is she in anyone's arms. This flyer is propaganda to promote THEIR lies, that Lisa is alive and kidnapped.

Also please note while alleging the 'people' who have Lisa are lying to those around them...the 'ATTENTION' part of the flyer doesn't specifically state that she is kidnapped. If they were putting out this flyer in hopes of finding their baby, they would certainly include ALL of the info, allegations, and 'facts', surrounding her disappearance...rather than burying the lead in nonsense. Addressing the flyer to GP's, Aunts and Uncles is one of the strangest things I've ever seen considering they should want EVERYONE to keep looking for Lisa! Sheesh-these PEOPLE have got a lot of nerve!

Lis said...

Notice on the poster it says, "Abducted from Kansas City, Mo since 10-3-11"

Has it been proven that baby Lisa was abducted? Is the idea 'the power of suggestion'?

I wonder why it used "since" instead of "on"?

Anonymous said...

They must have been reading analysis here. They speak of Lisa in the present tense and they use Lisa's name to the point of being absurd.

Anonymous said...

The previous comment was in reference to the Lisa Irwin site mentioned earlier.

Anonymous said...

OOops. No, THIS site.

equinox said...

..Oh and I'm sure they are posting this everywhere in Britain.. since you know, Jeremy's credit card was stolen and used to purchase a new baby birth certificate over there. Yeah right!

BostonLady said...

Thanks for the link, Anonymous. They definitely used "lisa's" name to the point of being obnoxious. And this added little blurb...


I wonder if Debbie and J ever had Lisa checked out for this supposed heart problem that "could" be genetic.

BostonLady said...
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Sus said...

You are correct, Peter. The poster angers me.

Lis, since is not the correct usage with abducted. Why did the use it?

Maybe it was a last minute change and editing mistake, as in:
MISSING since, then changed to abducted to sound more convincing.

Vita said...

Boston, your question is interesting. Wondering if DB or JI had Lisa checked for a heart problem that could be genetic..

Didn't JI say they were flat broke and had to sell everything before he got his new J.O.B. or something along the lines of. He being unemployed forever. No insurance etc. It's in my memory. The 3 cell phones to vanish - gee guess, add a baby stolen and CELLPHONE corp would drop the contracts, out of the goodness of a corps heart..

She could have cost too much? heart issues? (smh) - I think the only issues are, is JI cannot afford DB. He is the Ebayer - shopper of the duo. She only cares about her Adult time, provided he pays for it.

I know they were hard up for money as JI didn't pay his taxes, when DB was PG with Lisa, his records online, court records. Then it was I found him online, he bought Baby Lisa's clothing on Ebay, used. He a seller, and a buyer. Not Debbie but Him. The infamous glow-worm that Lisa slept with, he bought on Ebay Used. I found the listing, he bought it, for her, USED, when she was an infant.

I went to Ebay to look for him, hah what we seek, not necessarily what we expect to find.

His Ebay Name: JMoney3620
There EQ, is his credit Card being used " UK", the items are US, not UK..

His recent purchases are viewable

Dec 2012 bought:
Baby’s 1st Christmas 2010 Boy or Girl Train Locomotive Ornament Pastel Pink Blue

Dec 2012 bought:
NEW Bear Baby Memory Book Baby's First Years Album Stepping Stones Teddy Bear
Lisa's DOB, I had to look up, 11/11/2010, is that weird? to buy a Baby's first 2010 Christmas Ornament in 2012? is she now preggers ? and wanted to memorialize Lisa with a ORNAMENT?
I don't know what to think, he has been busy busy buying, no selling.


Anonymous said...

Angela Harry recently put out a false "kidnapped" poster of Ayla Reynolds too. Maybe the Irwins are working with the non-profit Harry created to help Justin DiPietro avoid responsibility for Ayla's death in his basement bedroom.

Angela's mission statement: Make fake stories for websites, blogs, avoid professional media where you can't control the flow of information. Take monetary and other donations and resources away from legitimate well-established missing children's organizations, like Klaas Kids, Laura Recovery, The Center for Missing and Exploited Children, etc.

pfft, some people.

Anonymous said...

Jeremy wrote the note. Order is important.
"Love, Daddy and Mommy"
Maybe he's starting to crack.

Anonymous said...

The song by Mariah Carey was sung a few episodes ago on American Idol. Figures those couch potatoes were watching that show and stole the lyric. Mariah Carey mentioned how she was happy that someone sang the song because she really liked that one.

Anonymous said...

They should have asked her in an interview if she was upset with her daughter at any point during that day.

S + K Mum said...

This makes me sad. Someone other than the parents (I suspect) have made this flyer.

DB didn't want the boys interviewed because they heard something. She doesn't want anyone to know what that is.

'specifically not to have to put them through anything else' - what did they go through before? She doesn't say it's the trauma of their sister being abducted, so what is it? It is pretty obvious that if they do know something that can help bring their sister home then surely this would end what they are going through?

JI could stand up, tell what he knows and this case could be closed. He has misplaced loyalty when it comes to DB and baby Lisa. Will DB and JI be together forever? I doubt it. So unless he was involved in Lisa's disappearance what is he waiting for? Would he rather have DB than justice for his beautiful baby girl?

It just occurred to me: has DB blamed JI's son and he feels he is protecting him rather than her?

S + K Mum said...

About the Ebay stuff....DB could be choosing and bidding on the items even though JI is paying for them.

My husband and I share an Ebay account, it is in his name and payments come out of and go into his bank account :) It's easier to manage one account than two (honestly!)

S + K Mum said...


I find that word at the top of a missing person fyler odd. Usually it says 'Missing' on a missing person flyer. Was it changed from Abducted?

Also, if you write 'Attention' surely you would have an exclamation mark ! at the end not these .....

Lemon said...


Riiiight. The only attention Deborah wants is when it includes $$$, paid travel, and presumably boxed wine. Should we expect another paid interview soon? Another Dr. Phil exclusive?

She and Jeremy can answer the question,
"What have you done for her lately?"
"Um, we made a poster…yeah, a poster"

Pak31 said...

I still can't believe this case hasn't been solved. Debra is such a bad liar. Even though this really doesn't have anything to do with it, I am stunned that her boys slept close to her yet she had her daughter sleep on the opposite end of the house with a fan on high. Who does that? When my kids were small like that, I wanted to hear what was going on in their rooms. I know her house is different from mine but how convenient that Lisa was far away AND had a fan going.She just keeps making excuses. I think Debra has a mean streak in her, she seems a bit selfish and she pulls husband around by his nose. I pray one day the truth does come out.

Pak31 said...

Boston Lady said: Is this contradicting, not making sense? How can Grandparents, Aunts and Uncles be holding their (Debbie's and J's) daughter in their arms if at the same time the “people” who have their daughter are lying to them? If the "people" have their daughter, then how can the categories above also have their daughter? Do the people have Lisa or is it the grandparents, aunts and uncles. And I’d ask why Debbie and J limited it to just these categories. What about brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers ??????-----------------I took it to mean for people who are grandparents, Aunts and Uncles to be on the lookout. That possibly someone in their family is trying to pass Lisa off as their own. So Debra is saying to them, "you might be holding my daughter and not even realize it". She thinks that the person who took her is telling family members that Lisa is their child. Does that make sense?