Monday, March 11, 2013

Noting the Negative

In the SCAN technique of Statement Analysis, we always note what someone says in the negative, as sensitive, or important. 

Why is this?

It takes more effort, (more words) to say what you will not do, than what you will do. That which someone will not do, not say, not hear, if often found taking precedent over what is reported having done, heard, or said. 

Interestingly enough, in watching the documentary, "Decisions That Shook The World", Franklin Roosevelt is seen as having "skirted" the US Constitution, preparing for World War II, while continually campaigning against war.  He is seen as having "lied" to the American people, yet, because of the atrocities of the war, as well as victory, commentators justify the actions. Bill Clinton gives commentary and we are left hearing how Roosevelt "knew more" than the American people, the Congress, and the US Constitution, and is justified by victory. 

Here are some quotes: 

"Breaking the laws, lying to the American people, but did so to protect Western civilization" said one commentator on the documentary.  

"I think there is always a temptation for a president, who knows the intricacies of international affairs, to make a private decision, this action needs to be taken, and even though it might be contrary to existing technical law, in my judgement, it's better strategically for the safety and well being and security of my own nation.  I think this was the case with Roosevelt."  Jimmy Carter

"Presidents have a way of rising to the occasion without regard to their past limitations. But we did so much better, and the world was so much better off because Roosevelt was right."  Bill Clinton

The claim by Roosevelt was his promise that he would not send American boys off to die in Europe, while Europeans were killing each other. America had heard its first president, George Washington, warn them not to become entangled in European affairs, as they were known to, for centuries, fighting each other. 

 In 1940 and 1941, Roosevelt armed one side of the combatants and took provocative actions that led to war.  His critics said it was deliberate.  Looking beyond the victory, if you were alive in 1941, prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, and you had heard 2 years of presidential promises and vows not to send your sons off to die in Europe, and you heard the following quote, what would you have believed?

Can you separate the outcome from the statements?

He promised, for 2 years, not to send American troops into the European conflict.  His critics claimed he was lying and secretly making plans which would lead to the deaths of many Americans.  

Was he?  

On this program, his supporters all admit he lied, in one form or another, but it was the "right" thing to do, and it was, as one said, because he saw "all the roads" that lay ahead, and knew how evil Hitler was, and how victory would be obtained. 

Finally, here is the quote from Roosevelt to the American people, prior to America's involvement in World War II, which came at a time when he was preparing troops.

The election in November of 1940 changed the tone of his denials. He won his third term on the promise to keep American boys out of the war.  

In December of 1940 he said, "

"There will be no bottlenecks  in our determination to aid Great Britain.  We must be the great arsenal of democracy  For us, it is an emergency as serious as war itself. 

The lend-lease arming of Britain came into effect and he told the people that this was not 

1941 State of the Union address:

"They do not need manpower. But they will need billions of dollars worth of weapons of defense.  We cannot and will not tell them that they must surrender merely because of present inability to pay for the weapons which we know they must have. 

"We will not send American boys to fight.  

We will be the arsenal of democracy.  

Note that which comes in the negative. 

Summer 1941, he ordered US warships to the Atlantic claiming it is his prerogative as commander in chief.  He wanted to protect merchant ships carrying food, supplies...and weapons.  The assignments given to the Navy were to escort British ships, violating the Neutrality Act, and "various other laws" he was subject to.  

Lesson:  always listen to what one tells you in the negative.  It is often more important information than what is told in the positive.  Those who heard President Roosevelt's statements needed discernment, just as we do today, in order to know the truth.  


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Former tennis world number one Jennifer Capriati has been accused of stalking and punching her ex-boyfriend until he had to run and hide in a men's locker room at a gym.

The three-time Grand Slam champion allegedly punched Ivan Brannan "with a closed fist four times in the chest" at a gym in Florida on Valentine’s Day while he was working out.

According to a police report, a yoga instructor had to stop a screaming Capriati from hitting Mr Brannan, who fled to the changing room, locked himself in and called 911.

Mr Brannan, 28, a former Florida State University golfer, had red marks on his chest from the incident, the police report said.

It added that while filling out an affidavit, "his hands were physically shaking ... it was very apparent that he was in fear of physical harm".

Mr Brannan, who dated 36-year-old Capriati from May 2011 to February 2012, told police that she began harassing and stalking him shortly after the couple broke up.

Jennifer Capriati at the US Open in September
He also later brought officers documentation of seven other altercations with the former tennis star, who won 14 titles and a gold medal at the 1992 Olympics.

The North Palm Beach Police Department in Florida subsequently requested an arrest warrant for Capriati, though it has not yet been issued by the court.

A publicist for Capriati issued a statement on Friday stressing that the case "has not yet been assigned in Palm Beach County and has not been reviewed".

"The current facts being circulated by Mr Brannan are an over-exaggeration and the police report is one-sided in Mr Brannan's favour since they failed to get Ms Capriati's side of the story," Natalie Mikolich said in a statement.

Capriati took to Twitter herself to defend her behaviour.

"I pushed a man that was verbally assaulting me away from me. This man has been tormenting and abusing me for so long. The truth will prevail," she wrote.

Hobnob said...
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Hobnob said...

"We will not send American boys to fight.

What was his definition of an American boy?

If a boy was anyone under, say 18,anyone 18 or over could then be classed as a man.

He did not send boys he sent men and was therefore not technically being deceptive. (think clinton's definition of sexual relations)

Juliette said...

OT: re: Madeleine McCann look alike spotted in many more lives need be thrown in turmoil to keep the McCann's lie alive...

john said...

"I PUSHED=(Passive) A MAN=(Does not identify him) that was VERBALLY ASSAULTING ME=(Her she uses aggressive language when it comes to the mans actions) away from me. THIS=(Is close,THAT is distance,why put yourself close to a man who is verbally assaulting you?) man has been tormenting and abusing me for so long. "THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL,"=(this sounds like a line from law drama)

Hobnob said...

Juliette said...
OT: re: Madeleine McCann look alike spotted in many more lives need be thrown in turmoil to keep the McCann's lie alive...

I hope the gruesome twosome and the pink princess are sued by every one they have linked wrongly to the case or who have had ther privacy infringed upon or their child has been scared by or has been assaulted (DNA test)

It was interesting to note they had 2 big press conferences controlled by wannabe chief inspector clarence mitchell in regard to 2 suspecrs both of whom had a tenuous to non existent link to the case (one was een weeks before in th area & the other was the victoria beckham lookalike who turned out to be an austrailian heiress) yet no a squeak about the smith sighting who claimed the man they saw carrying a child was lord muck himself (gerry).

What is of note is everytime news is about showing them in a bad light there is a sighting.
Given their request to come to a deal with Goncalo which is telling since plaintiffs have no reason to back down we had a flurry of sightings one of which turned out to be Ibiza airport in a bombscare in 2007 and not brazil as claimed and now Cyprus, one has to wonder who is paying for these sightings? it also contradicts their claims that Tony and Goncalo have harmed and hindered the search, unlike lilo lil whose refusal to anwer 48 quaetions was apparantly not hindering.

john said...


Lord muck-Lilo lil. hahaha

Jen said...

Hi John-

You nailed it..why was she pursuing him (apparently many times according to the reports) if he is abusive to her? Also she uses the same line that many guilty subjects do...promising 'the truth' is coming (just not today and just not from them). Why wouldn't NOW be just as good a time as later for the truth to prevail!

ME said...

Hobnob what's your "main"reason to doubt the nggans?thanks in advance ;0)

Jen said...

Also the Capriati story is ironic because I'm pretty sure she was the one who had a stalker attack her on the tennis court, stabbing her in the back shoulder area. Now she's stalking and assaulting people!?

john said...

Tennis Ace Jennifer Capriati Accused of Assaulting, Stalking Former Boyfriend

Former 'Master Chef' Contestant Blasts Capriati Stalking Allegations.

By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC)
March 11, 2013
Tennis legend Jennifer Capriati gained glory with her wicked swing on the court, but she's now being accused of assault off the court by her former boyfriend, who police say was punched by the three-time Grand Slam champion on Valentines' Day.

Police say Capriati, 36, (PUNCHED)=(In her other Statement she said she (PUSHED HIM)Ivan Brannan in the chest at the Oxygen Gym and Spa in North Palm Beach Fla., Feb. 14, before the altercation had to be broken up by a yoga instructor. Brannan, a former college golfer, was able to flee and "lock himself in the [men's] locker room and call police," according to a police report.

Brannon's hands were shaking and it was apparent "he was in fear of physical harm," according to the report. Brannan, 28, also complained to police about Capriati's allegedly stalking or harassing him seven times, saying that she even called his workplace 50 times in a single day in January, and then showed up there and banged on the windows.

Steven Sessa, Capriati's attorney, said the facts will prove otherwise.

"I am sure that the police report is one-sided," he said. "Once all the facts are examined, Ms. Capriati will be vindicated."

The 2001 Australian and French Open women's singles champ, who last year was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame, was defended Sunday by Christine Corley, an ex-girlfriend of Brennan's who has appeared on the reality-TV competition show MasterChef.

Corley tweeted an accusation that Brannan cooked up unfounded allegations against her.

"He is doing the same thing to you as he did to me!!" she wrote, to which Capriati responded, "He has gone too far trying to destroy our lives!!"

Corley, who provided no details, wasn't charged with a crime for the allegations she says Brannan made.

Capriati burst into the tennis world at age 13 and flamed out three years later, quitting the sport and getting arrested for marijuana possession and shoplifting in 1994. She later fought back, becoming the world No. 1 women's singles player in 2001 before quitting again and then overdosing on prescriptions medication in 2010.

"This is sadly for Jennifer Capriati a continuation of this roller-coaster life that she has been living in the public eye for more than 20 years," "Good Moring America" sports contributor Christine Brennan said.

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ME said...
Hobnob what's your "main"reason to doubt the nggans?thanks in advance ;0)

Hi ME.
coming from a medical family, working is hospital and knowing a lot of medical people, teir behavior was an immediate red flag.
Medical people are hypervigilant when it comes to children, they know all to well what can happen to a child in a house even when parents are there. Thier claim of leaving their children homealone did not ring true. ( it laters turned out their were adults missing almost every night for whateer reason and an abduction could never have happened as claimed if an adult was present.

Next came their first press conference, thierr language was all wrong, their body language was screaming liar liar pants on fire and what parent would read from a perpared script when calling out to their child.

I knew immediately they were lying about what happened and concluded when someone lies they have a reason to.

The over the following days we had all the changes in the stories from smashed shutters and doors hanging open to oh, there was nothing like that, i just knew it was an abduction etc. Then there was the complete lack of physical searching, the stilted pressers and gerry's blog, then when they started jogging it confirmed no abduction and te parents killed her. What i didn't know was deliberate or accidental till i saw the F off i'm not here to have fun video. kates behavior was all over the place andi came to the conclusion she was the guilty party, i still think so given her statements about murder suicide, kate was telling the world she was completely crackers, she hated Maddie and was glad to see the back of her. I still wonder if kate's meltdown was part and parcel of the domestic violence and the marriage on it's last legs. In ever video it is she grabbing onto gerry's crotch, why? reassurance perhaps?

Jen said...

My wasn't Capriati who was was Monica Seles.

Jen said...

Good call hobs-

I've also noticed a correlation between the 'sightings' and the McCanns negative publicity. I hope Goncola holds their feet to the fire and makes them follow through with their lawsuit, which I'm assuming will mean depositions for Kate & Gerry (and which once again undermines the idea that their focus is Madeline). I know if my daughter was missing, I wouldn't be spending time/money on suing anyone, which seems to be the McCanns biggest concern.

The McCanns SHOULD be a little too preoccupied with finding their little girl whom they claim is alive and kidnapped, to bother suing those who question them. (Although Kate laments how she would sometimes like to push a button and kill herself, Gerry and her other kids so they can 'all be together', revealing that she knows Madeline is dead.)

I also believe Kate was the one who did something to Madeline, after hearing on one of the Dateline/48hrs type shows that her introduction to motherhood was very bumpy. She supposedly asked her mother or aunt/sister (can't remember who) to take Madeline because she couldn't manage her..yet she had twins a few years later (they attributed it to postpartum depression). I think Kate was using the pregnancies to try to solidify her marriage, and actually raising the kids was an after thought and inconvenience to her and Gerry. That is supported by their behavior, if you believe their story about leaving Madeline and the twins alone. But, I think it's more likely that Kate lost her temper and hurt Madeline...otherwise they would have called for help. If the injuries could be explained by an accident outside of their presence then why go through all of this?

john said...

H Hobs,

statements about murder suicide, kate was telling the world she was completely crackers, she hated Maddie and was glad to see the back of her.

Iv'e never heard kate say that was that common knowledge?

That's disgusting.Was she pulled on that?.

john said...

I'm wondering if there was any doubt that Maddie was Gerry's?

ME said...
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john said...

Hello ME.

Fellow scouser,Yay

Jen said...

Hi John-

Kate's original quote was this:

At times I wish i could, "Press A Button And We Are ALL Gone, ALL Together, And It's Finished"

Kate McCann

Hobnob said...

Goncalo turned down their offers to do a deal to his satisfaction. he is saying nothing, not even to his closest confidantes, i agree with this since he can't trust anyone not to talk if the money is right. If they learn what he will acede to they will go for it and keep it out of court, the last place they want to be, especially since if they lie on the stand or as witnesses they will be charged with perjury and they cannot claim arguido status allowing them to lie and refuse to answer questions.

It is also likely given their libel and slander of him that a full front page apology is what he is demanding, which will blow them out of favor and cost them donations.
They will end up in court. the result may also impact the verdict in the Tony Bennet case re: his claims Maddie is dead.

There has been a flurry of sightings which we all expect (and go so far as to select the next country) they are so predictable, i guess because they read the blogs and use them for suggestions ( we stick in the occasional white elephant or completely unbelievable one to see if they bite)

John, her comment was made in an CTN interview. I posted a comment regarding how alarming this was which was passed around sundry blogs and forums.

There are also questions as to if lord muck is the bio dad of Maddie and/or the twins. Since they were all IVF it would depend on who donated what for whom. (i had to give a forum a crash course in genetics) LE would be able to contact the clinic and get the details of who gave what to whom so they could all be bio mccann, half mccann/half donor, all donor, all siblings could be full bio siblings or they could be half siblings (the twins would be fll regardless) or they could have diferent parents. This info has not been released in the publicly released files , it will be in the rest of the files. The claim was gerry wasn't the bio dad, this could be verified if they had a sample from gerry such as a hair etc and a sample from a twin sch has hair or dirty diaper. Since he is so macho, being revealed as firing blanks and they aren't his children would smash his ego as well as give a motive for getting rid of Maddie. Either way, so far no one is talking parentage though should they split up parentage may become an issue regarding custody.

they have made several revealing comments, gerry said :"In the first few weeks when I slipped into dark moments of despair, I was finding it quite easy to emotionally switch a light back on.

"But I've been finding it increasingly difficult to do.

"I don't want to do that any more. I want to be able to grieve and let those emotions out."

Hobnob said...

gerry quotes

The McCann's first media statement, read by Gerry McCann (written statement)
10.00pm, Friday 04 May 2007

"Words cannot describe the anguish and despair that we are feeling as the parents of our beautiful daughter Madeleine.

We request that anyone who may have any information related to Madeleine's disappearance, no matter how trivial, contact the Portuguese police and help us get her back safely.

Please, if you have Madeleine, let her come home to her mummy, daddy, brother and sister.

As everyone can understand how distressing the current situation is, we ask that our privacy is respected to allow us to continue assisting the police in their current investigation."

The McCann's second media statement, read by Gerry McCann
'Moments before making his statement, Dr McCann appeared first alone before returning to the family's temporary holiday apartment and re-emerging arm in arm with his wife.' The Irish Times, 06 May 2007.

Saturday 05 May 2007

"We would like to make another short statement related to Madeleine's disappearance.

"First of all we would like to thank everyone here in Portugal, the UK and elsewhere for all your support during this extremingly... extremely difficult time for our family.

"We are pleased that the family liaison officers from Leicestershire are now working closely with the Portuguese Police, and in keeping us informed. We have no further information regarding the investigation but appreciate the significant efforts everyone is making on our behalf.

"We would again like to appeal for any information, however small, that may lead to the safe return of Madeleine.

"Finally we would like to thank the media for respecting our privacy especially that of Madeleine's little brother and sister."

"We're clearly biased," Gerry admitted, "but Madeleine is as close to the perfect child as you could get, you know, for someone who is so young, less than four when she was taken. She really is amazing. Nothing like this has ever happened -- and I mean, going with anyone she didn't know, for example."

Kate, 39, said of the police: "They are basically saying, 'If you confess Madeleine had an accident, and that I panicked and hid the body in a bag for a month then got rid of it in a hire car, I'd get two or three years' suspended sentence.'


"I know that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I know it happened under other circumstances."


Gerry McCann: Anybody with young children will understand that children cry; they wake up at night. During that week there was one night, errr… and we can't give too much detail because it's part of the investigation file but there was one night where Madeleine came through and one of the other, errr… twins were crying,


Unidentified: "Can I... can I ask, that after so long, you've... you're now 19 days, do you have any... any new appeal or any new thoughts of sending a message to the person who took Madeleine?"

Gerry: "No, we're... we're going to wait and see what the response is from this current appeal and we're here to re-emphasise that appeal and support it."

Hobnob said...

All their interviews, transcripts, tv appearances, gerry;s blog abd everything else to do with the case :)

john said...

Oooh the plot thickens.

ME said...
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~ABC said...

Hobnob said:
...i still think so given her statements about murder suicide, kate was telling the world she was completely crackers, she hated Maddie and was glad to see the back of her.

Wow! Did Kate McCann actually say this? You say it's from a CTN interview. Do you have a link for that? I mean that is a pretty damning statement about her missing child.

Hobnob said...

she did indeed say it.

Mom: Madeleine Had "Sense Of Danger" CBS News

British Girl's Parents In Last Interview Before Being Named Suspects In Her Disappearance

Published: Oct. 5, 2007

(CBS) "Every day, it's very hard without Madeleine, and we all miss her so much. It certainly feels like there's a big void in our life without her."

Little Madeleine McCann's mother, Kate McCann, summed up the feelings of her and her husband, Gerry McCann, Madeleine's father, in an interview in late August. It was done in Lisbon, Portugal, with reporter Mirna Schindler of Chile's Television Nacional, for "Informe Especial" -- their 60 Minutes.

Madeleine vanished from her parents' vacation villa in Portugal five months ago, and Kate and Gerry, who live in England, have been named suspects in the disappearance by Portuguese authorities. They adamantly deny any involvement.

The Television Nacional interview was the last they gave before being named suspects. British and Portuguese law bars them from granting interviews, now that they're officially under suspicion. But they did give an interview to a local British newspaper recently.

The Early Show has exclusive United States rights to the Chilean network's interview, and is showing it in two parts. One aired Friday, and the other will be broadcast Monday.

Gerry McCann told Schindler, "I'm sure most people can imagine how bad it was that first night ... how terrifying it was and, as most parents would say, the parents' worst nightmare.

"The key thing that we're trying to do is trying to channel all of our emotions and energy into influencing a search for Madeleine, and that's what drives us forward."

Madeleine is "pretty," Kate said. " ... She's very sociable, very engaging. She's bright and funny. She does have a sense of danger there."

"Mm-hmm," Gerry agreed.

"Even though she's very young," Kate continued. "She does have a sense of danger."

"We're clearly biased," Gerry admitted, "but Madeleine is as close to the perfect child as you could get, you know, for someone who is so young, less than four when she was taken. She really is amazing. Nothing like this has ever happened -- and I mean, going with anyone she didn't know, for example."

The McCanns say they had left Madeleine and her younger, twin siblings asleep in the rented villa while they had dinner nearby. Despite an extensive search and international publicity effort led by Kate and Gerry, no confirmed trace Madeleine has turned up.

What, Schindler asked, was the first thing that crossed their minds when they came back to the room from dinner and realized that Madeleine wasn't there?

"I knew straight away she'd been taken," Kate replied.

"At the first moment?" Schindler asked.

"Well," Kate responded, "put it this way: I mean, she hadn't walked out of the apartment."

"When I got there," Gerry said, "and Kate told me, and when I looked at the scene as well, I had absolutely no doubt. But, you know, our immediate reaction was to double and triple check, and we did do that, both in the apartment and in the vicinity. And then we said, 'Call the police.' And one of our friends alerted both the resort manager and the police."

Are they relying on the expertise of Portuguese police?

"Well, we have to rely on them," Gerry answered. "They are the investigating police force. Of course, the investigation, we've stated all along, has the most likely chance of us finding her.

Hobnob said...
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Hobnob said...

"There's still no evidence of serious harm to Madeleine that we know of, and that gives us hope and gives us hope that she could still be alive."

Kate said, "It really isn't easy," coping. "Some days are better than others. ... There's days when you think, 'I can't do this anymore,' and you just want to press a button, and we're all gone, and it's all finished, and we're all together and gone. Wherever. But you can't, you know. Just occasionally you'll have a -- if you're having a really bad day, which we do. And you can't help but think that."

Kate constantly carries around a stuffed animal she said "was Madeleine's favorite cuddly toy, and, you know, she took it to bed with her every night, or if she was tired or not feeling very well, she always had it as a comfort. And, I suppose, it was special to Madeleine, so it's special to me, really, and I just feel a bit closer to her" holding it.

~ABC said...

Hi Hobnob :)

I don't see where she's quoted as saying she hated Madeline and was glad to see the back of her. That's what I'm asking. If Kate McCann actually said that it would be pretty damning. It seems her talk of suicide is after Madeline went missing.

Is this just a conclusion you've drawn based on what you've learned of the case?

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